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    Hemavol - My opinions; pepper your haterade bottles

    1. I noticed an infinitesimal increase in my pump (back and bis), my hopes were shat on. Pumps aren't anything I really look for, but as something praised as the ultimate volumizer, I figured I should at least get some stretch marks for how much I paid.

    2. Why does no one hate on gylcerol? Where is all the "its just a water pump, non beneficial" bros at for all the hemavol threads? Dat cosmetic pump

    3. Even with no extra pump, I looked extra juicy, will update thread with pics maybe for before and after

    4. Lemon tastes pretty damn good


    Although I didn't get a hyoge pump, my muscles looked more juicy and engorged, but I just didn't feel it... Anyone else with similar experiences?
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    No haterade...we just need to get you taking it properly and you'll be set. If you could answer these questions for me, I know we can get you having great pumps in as little as 1-2 more workouts.


    #1 - How much water did you consume with your dose?
    #2 - How many scoops did you use?
    #3 - How long was your dose after your most recent meal?
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    No hating man....thanks for your input

    Everyone responds differently... hopefully we can help you out (Vaughn's questions)
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    No haterade...we just need to get you taking it properly and you'll be set. If you could answer these questions for me, I know we can get you having great pumps in as little as 1-2 more workouts.


    #1 - How much water did you consume with your dose?
    #2 - How many scoops did you use?
    #3 - How long was your dose after your most recent meal?
    Well I enjoyed the juiciness alone. I'm just confused as to how I didn't notice an actual pump. From the way I looked, I felt like I should have been feeling like my muscles were going to pop.

    1. 10oz + 1.5 SP-MAx & 12oz + 1.5 scoop Hema
    2. ^^^ 22 oz total combined with SP-Max
    3. Well.. I ate 3 pieces of wheat bread 25 minutes before my 2 shakes, as my last meal would have been a protein shake 3 hours ago with no carbs.
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    Originally Posted by Purplekoolaid View Post
    1. I noticed an infinitesimal increase in my pump (back and bis), my hopes were shat on. Pumps aren't anything I really look for, but as something praised as the ultimate volumizer, I figured I should at least get some stretch marks for how much I paid.

    2. Why does no one hate on gylcerol? Where is all the "its just a water pump, non beneficial" bros at for all the hemavol threads? Dat cosmetic pump

    3. Even with no extra pump, I looked extra juicy, will update thread with pics maybe for before and after

    4. Lemon tastes pretty damn good


    Although I didn't get a hyoge pump, my muscles looked more juicy and engorged, but I just didn't feel it... Anyone else with similar experiences?
    Personally, my back is one of the spots that I really never get any pump...no matter what supplement I take. Do you usually get pumps in your back when training? Bis on the other hand...I always get a nice pump. This is with 1-1.5 scoops in 20-24 ounces of water.
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    heh try drinking almost a gallon of water during your workout with it and you'll get ridiculous and the most painful pumps ever.
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    Originally Posted by J_Dieter View Post
    Personally, my back and shoulders are two places that I really never get any pump...no matter what supplement I take. Do you usually get pumps in your back when training? Bis on the other hand...I always get a nice pump. This is with 1-1.5 scoops in 20-24 ounces of water.
    Yeah I get lat pumps.

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    heh try drinking almost a gallon of water during your workout with it and you'll get ridiculous and the most painful pumps ever.
    Is this just muscle engorgement of water with the glycerol?
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    I tend to have better pumps with cit mal/agmatine/hemavol if I dont eat for 60-90 min pre taking hemavol. The meal is my typical breakfast of 60g muesli with fruit and 40-50g of the myofusion that I have with milk. Try that atleast once.

    SP max and Hemavol = the tits for me...
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    Did you shake the tub prior to use?
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    Originally Posted by Purplekoolaid View Post
    Yeah I get lat pumps.
    damn...you are so lucky!!!!


    My suggestion, for what works for me, is NOT to take in the white bread. However, if you want to eat your white bread, try eating it at least 45-60 minutes before hemavol.....
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    Originally Posted by Purplekoolaid View Post
    Well I enjoyed the juiciness alone. I'm just confused as to how I didn't notice an actual pump. From the way I looked, I felt like I should have been feeling like my muscles were going to pop.

    1. 10oz + 1.5 SP-MAx & 12oz + 1.5 scoop Hema
    2. ^^^ 22 oz total combined with SP-Max
    3. Well.. I ate 3 pieces of wheat bread 25 minutes before my 2 shakes, as my last meal would have been a protein shake 3 hours ago with no carbs.
    Ok I see the issue.


    Many people respond best to HemaVol on a completely empty stomach, while some respond best with carbs. it sounds like you will do MUCH better on an empty stomach. Now I understand that may be hard since many poeple like to eat just prior to their workout.

    Try your next workout with the exact same doses you took(with the sp max + hemavol + 24oz water total), but do it with no pre-wo meal. You may be hungry during your workout, but it will make your post workout anabolic meal that much more effective/satisfying.
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    Not a fan of glycerol like you said OP, but I get epic pumps from agmatine.
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    Ok I see the issue.


    Many people respond best to HemaVol on a completely empty stomach, while some respond best with carbs. it sounds like you will do MUCH better on an empty stomach. Now I understand that may be hard since many poeple like to eat just prior to their workout.

    Try your next workout with the exact same doses you took(with the sp max + hemavol + 24oz water total), but do it with no pre-wo meal. You may be hungry during your workout, but it will make your post workout anabolic meal that much more effective/satisfying.
    Yeah I usually space my meals out 3 hours before my workout, so thats usually not a problem. With me being a student, and limited time in the house before I go to work at 6:30pm followed by gym at 9pm, I usually slam a protein shake or something before hand. Ill try and get a carb meal 3 hours before my workout and see what happens.
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    Originally Posted by Purplekoolaid View Post
    Yeah I usually space my meals out 3 hours before my workout, so thats usually not a problem. With me being a student, and limited time in the house before I go to work at 6:30pm followed by gym at 9pm, I usually slam a protein shake or something before hand. Ill try and get a carb meal 3 hours before my workout and see what happens.
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    perfect. Please keep me filled in on this, I know we can have you a believe in no time
    I have tried 3 hours before and i have tried 30 min before and didnt really feel like either worked for me (3 hours before I felt bad because I was hungry, 30 min before I felt heavy and not really pumped). 60-90 min hit the spot just right. Got 5 tubs here (got freaked out by the possible ban of supplements in the UK)
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    Originally Posted by justfive View Post
    I have tried 3 hours before and i have tried 30 min before and didnt really feel like either worked for me (3 hours before I felt bad because I was hungry, 30 min before I felt heavy and not really pumped). 60-90 min hit the spot just right. Got 5 tubs here (got freaked out by the possible ban of supplements in the UK)
    Ill take this into account, as your opinion is one of the very few I value around here even if this suggestion isn't intelligence driven
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    Sp max @ 1.5-2 scoops gives me awesome pumps alone. When I stacked it with hemavol it was honestly to the point of pumps being detrimental. No idea how you didn't notice anything.
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    Originally Posted by Massicio View Post
    Sp max @ 1.5-2 scoops gives me awesome pumps alone. When I stacked it with hemavol it was honestly to the point of pumps being detrimental. No idea how you didn't notice anything.
    Yes but more importantly did you try the sample of Proto Whey Mocha you got?
    Such much Placebo in here.
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    Originally Posted by GetRippedInc View Post
    Yes but more importantly did you try the sample of Proto Whey Mocha you got?
    In the newest order? It comes in tomorrow. Last order I got samples of fitness pro super whey? (sp?) Not exactly sure of the name. It was chocolate.
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    Originally Posted by Massicio View Post
    In the newest order? It comes in tomorrow. Last order I got samples of fitness pro super whey? (sp?) Not exactly sure of the name. It was chocolate.
    Ok... try it as soon as you get it. Best mocha flavor of any protein
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    Originally Posted by GetRippedInc View Post
    Ok... try it as soon as you get it. Best mocha flavor of any protein
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    peppered.
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    Originally Posted by Massicio View Post
    Sp max @ 1.5-2 scoops gives me awesome pumps alone. When I stacked it with hemavol it was honestly to the point of pumps being detrimental. No idea how you didn't notice anything.
    I think its my diet, but not many products give me insane pumps.
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    Originally Posted by Purplekoolaid View Post

    2. Why does no one hate on gylcerol? Where is all the "its just a water pump, non beneficial" bros at for all the hemavol threads? Dat cosmetic pump
    Sports Med. 2010;40(2):113-29. doi: 10.2165/11530760-000000000-00000.
    Guidelines for glycerol use in hyperhydration and rehydration associated with exercise.
    van Rosendal SP, Osborne MA, Fassett RG, Coombes JS.

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    Dehydration in athletes alters cardiovascular and thermoregulatory function and may inhibit endurance exercise capacity if fluid loss exceeds 2% of bodyweight (BW). If this level of dehydration cannot be prevented when starting from a state of euhydration, then athletes may create a state of hyperhydration by consuming extra fluid prior to exercise. From this hyperhydrated situation, individuals have a greater capacity to tolerate fluid loss before becoming dehydrated. Furthermore, excess pre-exercise fluid intake enhances thermoregulatory ability, as well as increasing plasma volume to maintain cardiac output. However, hyperhydrating before exercise is difficult, because a large fluid intake is typically accompanied by diuresis. Glycerol-containing beverages create an osmotic gradient in the circulation favouring fluid retention, thereby facilitating hyperhydration and protecting against dehydration. Many studies have shown that increases in body water by 1 L or more are achievable through glycerol hyperhydration. This article analyses the evidence for glycerol use in facilitating hyperhydration and rehydration, and provides guidelines for athletes wishing to use this compound. An analysis of the studies in this area indicates that endurance athletes intending to hyperhydrate with glycerol should ingest glycerol 1.2 g/kg BW in 26 mL/kg BW of fluid over a period of 60 minutes, 30 minutes prior to exercise. The effects of glycerol on total body water when used during rehydration are less well defined, due to the limited studies conducted. However, ingesting glycerol 0.125 g/kg BW in a volume equal to 5 mL/kg BW during exercise will delay dehydration, while adding glycerol 1.0 g/kg BW to each 1.5 L of fluid consumed following exercise will accelerate the restoration of plasma volume. Side effects from glycerol ingestion are rare, but include nausea, gastrointestinal discomfort and light-headedness. In summary, glycerol ingestion before, during or following exercise is likely to improve the hydration state of the endurance athlete.
    Exploring the potential ergogenic effects of glycerol hyperhydration.
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    During athletic competition or recreational pursuits, a body's hydration level can become compromised, resulting in a decrement in performance. Glycerol (1,2,3-propanetriol) has been used to induce hyperhydration in an attempt to offset the deleterious effects of dehydration. When glycerol is consumed orally, it is rapidly absorbed primarily in the small intestine. It is reported to be evenly distributed among all fluid compartments, with the exception of the cerebral spinal fluid and aqueous humour, and promotes hyperhydration by inducing an osmotic gradient. Through an increase in the kidney's medullary concentration gradient, water absorption in the nephron is enhanced. When glycerol is consumed, the plasma glycerol concentration increases in proportion to the dose ingested, which easily exceeds the glycerol saturation point resulting in urinary glycerol excretion. Thus, without supplemental glycerol ingestion, there will be a decrease in the osmotic gradient resulting in a loss of hyperhydration. The ergogenic nature of glycerol has been investigated as to its effect on fluid retention, thermoregulation, cardiovascular responses and performance. While many studies provide evidence of hyperhydration, others do not. Only two studies reviewed showed a thermoregulatory advantage. Furthermore, the preponderance of evidence neither weighed for or against cardiovascular or performance advantages. What makes one study provide favourable results while another study does not is unclear. Possible explanations may include subject characteristics, environmental factors, research design, whether fluids with or without glycerol were given during exercise, the rate at which fluids are initially given to induce hyperhydration, the time between peak hyperhydration/peak plasma glycerol concentration and the trial (i.e. exercise), the glycerol dose (i.e. 1.0 g/kg body mass) and what it is based upon, the percentage glycerol solution (i.e. 5%, 20%), the variation of time between the end of the hydration protocol and the beginning of exercise, or perhaps the intensity of exercise (fixed, variable, percentage maximum oxygen uptake). What is clear is that glycerol has the capacity to enhance fluid retention. In so doing, glycerol hyperhydration may be a logistically preferred method due to concomitant decrease in urine output and free-water clearance, which may give a performance advantage by offsetting dehydration. Future research should focus on maintaining plasma glycerol concentrations at levels necessary to maintain osmotic forces required to support continued hyperhydration. Potential benefits of glycerol should be further explored to identify the circumstances or factors that may contribute to an ergogenic effect.
    3. Even with no extra pump, I looked extra juicy, will update thread with pics maybe for before and after
    So, let me get this straight. You had no pump, looked juicy, didn't notice anything, but feel the need to do before and after pics? What are you going on about, brah?
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    Originally Posted by poison View Post
    So, let me get this straight. You had no pump, looked juicy, didn't notice anything, but feel the need to do before and after pics? What are you going on about, brah?
    I had a pump, just nothing extra. But as the undisputed "pump" king, I was wondering if anyone had similar experiences of not noticing much. Vaughn has me on my way to gainsville
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    Not to hijack the thread but has anyone tried the watermelon flavor? Love the lemon but watermelon sounds tasty!
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    Originally Posted by therockap1 View Post
    Not to hijack the thread but has anyone tried the watermelon flavor? Love the lemon but watermelon sounds tasty!
    i think the watermelon beats out the lemon...which is nuts to say
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    1. The benefit of Hemavol is in performance, not pump.
    2. I hate on the GMS all the time, ask Vaughn.
    3. Juicy is good.
    4. Lemon is very good, still haven't had watermelon
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    Originally Posted by VaughnTrue View Post
    i think the watermelon beats out the lemon...which is nuts to say
    Buying it next time out then, unreal if that's the case!
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