1. I noticed an infinitesimal increase in my pump (back and bis), my hopes were shat on. Pumps aren't anything I really look for, but as something praised as the ultimate volumizer, I figured I should at least get some stretch marks for how much I paid.
2. Why does no one hate on gylcerol? Where is all the "its just a water pump, non beneficial" bros at for all the hemavol threads? Dat cosmetic pump
3. Even with no extra pump, I looked extra juicy, will update thread with pics maybe for before and after
4. Lemon tastes pretty damn good
Although I didn't get a hyoge pump, my muscles looked more juicy and engorged, but I just didn't feel it... Anyone else with similar experiences?
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03-21-2012, 10:00 AM #1
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Hemavol - My opinions; pepper your haterade bottles
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03-21-2012, 10:12 AM #2
No haterade...we just need to get you taking it properly and you'll be set. If you could answer these questions for me, I know we can get you having great pumps in as little as 1-2 more workouts.
#1 - How much water did you consume with your dose?
#2 - How many scoops did you use?
#3 - How long was your dose after your most recent meal?I got no strings to hold me down
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03-21-2012, 10:17 AM #4
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Well I enjoyed the juiciness alone. I'm just confused as to how I didn't notice an actual pump. From the way I looked, I felt like I should have been feeling like my muscles were going to pop.
1. 10oz + 1.5 SP-MAx & 12oz + 1.5 scoop Hema
2. ^^^ 22 oz total combined with SP-Max
3. Well.. I ate 3 pieces of wheat bread 25 minutes before my 2 shakes, as my last meal would have been a protein shake 3 hours ago with no carbs.
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03-21-2012, 10:19 AM #6
heh try drinking almost a gallon of water during your workout with it and you'll get ridiculous and the most painful pumps ever.
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03-21-2012, 10:34 AM #11
Ok I see the issue.
Many people respond best to HemaVol on a completely empty stomach, while some respond best with carbs. it sounds like you will do MUCH better on an empty stomach. Now I understand that may be hard since many poeple like to eat just prior to their workout.
Try your next workout with the exact same doses you took(with the sp max + hemavol + 24oz water total), but do it with no pre-wo meal. You may be hungry during your workout, but it will make your post workout anabolic meal that much more effective/satisfying.I got no strings to hold me down
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03-21-2012, 03:35 PM #13
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Yeah I usually space my meals out 3 hours before my workout, so thats usually not a problem. With me being a student, and limited time in the house before I go to work at 6:30pm followed by gym at 9pm, I usually slam a protein shake or something before hand. Ill try and get a carb meal 3 hours before my workout and see what happens.
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03-21-2012, 03:46 PM #15
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I have tried 3 hours before and i have tried 30 min before and didnt really feel like either worked for me (3 hours before I felt bad because I was hungry, 30 min before I felt heavy and not really pumped). 60-90 min hit the spot just right. Got 5 tubs here (got freaked out by the possible ban of supplements in the UK)
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03-21-2012, 05:53 PM #24Sports Med. 2010;40(2):113-29. doi: 10.2165/11530760-000000000-00000.
Guidelines for glycerol use in hyperhydration and rehydration associated with exercise.
van Rosendal SP, Osborne MA, Fassett RG, Coombes JS.
School of Human Movement Studies, The University of Queensland, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia. svanrosendal@hms.uq.edu.au
Dehydration in athletes alters cardiovascular and thermoregulatory function and may inhibit endurance exercise capacity if fluid loss exceeds 2% of bodyweight (BW). If this level of dehydration cannot be prevented when starting from a state of euhydration, then athletes may create a state of hyperhydration by consuming extra fluid prior to exercise. From this hyperhydrated situation, individuals have a greater capacity to tolerate fluid loss before becoming dehydrated. Furthermore, excess pre-exercise fluid intake enhances thermoregulatory ability, as well as increasing plasma volume to maintain cardiac output. However, hyperhydrating before exercise is difficult, because a large fluid intake is typically accompanied by diuresis. Glycerol-containing beverages create an osmotic gradient in the circulation favouring fluid retention, thereby facilitating hyperhydration and protecting against dehydration. Many studies have shown that increases in body water by 1 L or more are achievable through glycerol hyperhydration. This article analyses the evidence for glycerol use in facilitating hyperhydration and rehydration, and provides guidelines for athletes wishing to use this compound. An analysis of the studies in this area indicates that endurance athletes intending to hyperhydrate with glycerol should ingest glycerol 1.2 g/kg BW in 26 mL/kg BW of fluid over a period of 60 minutes, 30 minutes prior to exercise. The effects of glycerol on total body water when used during rehydration are less well defined, due to the limited studies conducted. However, ingesting glycerol 0.125 g/kg BW in a volume equal to 5 mL/kg BW during exercise will delay dehydration, while adding glycerol 1.0 g/kg BW to each 1.5 L of fluid consumed following exercise will accelerate the restoration of plasma volume. Side effects from glycerol ingestion are rare, but include nausea, gastrointestinal discomfort and light-headedness. In summary, glycerol ingestion before, during or following exercise is likely to improve the hydration state of the endurance athlete.Exploring the potential ergogenic effects of glycerol hyperhydration.
Nelson JL, Robergs RA.
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Exercise Physiology Laboratories, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico 87131-1258, USA.
Abstract
During athletic competition or recreational pursuits, a body's hydration level can become compromised, resulting in a decrement in performance. Glycerol (1,2,3-propanetriol) has been used to induce hyperhydration in an attempt to offset the deleterious effects of dehydration. When glycerol is consumed orally, it is rapidly absorbed primarily in the small intestine. It is reported to be evenly distributed among all fluid compartments, with the exception of the cerebral spinal fluid and aqueous humour, and promotes hyperhydration by inducing an osmotic gradient. Through an increase in the kidney's medullary concentration gradient, water absorption in the nephron is enhanced. When glycerol is consumed, the plasma glycerol concentration increases in proportion to the dose ingested, which easily exceeds the glycerol saturation point resulting in urinary glycerol excretion. Thus, without supplemental glycerol ingestion, there will be a decrease in the osmotic gradient resulting in a loss of hyperhydration. The ergogenic nature of glycerol has been investigated as to its effect on fluid retention, thermoregulation, cardiovascular responses and performance. While many studies provide evidence of hyperhydration, others do not. Only two studies reviewed showed a thermoregulatory advantage. Furthermore, the preponderance of evidence neither weighed for or against cardiovascular or performance advantages. What makes one study provide favourable results while another study does not is unclear. Possible explanations may include subject characteristics, environmental factors, research design, whether fluids with or without glycerol were given during exercise, the rate at which fluids are initially given to induce hyperhydration, the time between peak hyperhydration/peak plasma glycerol concentration and the trial (i.e. exercise), the glycerol dose (i.e. 1.0 g/kg body mass) and what it is based upon, the percentage glycerol solution (i.e. 5%, 20%), the variation of time between the end of the hydration protocol and the beginning of exercise, or perhaps the intensity of exercise (fixed, variable, percentage maximum oxygen uptake). What is clear is that glycerol has the capacity to enhance fluid retention. In so doing, glycerol hyperhydration may be a logistically preferred method due to concomitant decrease in urine output and free-water clearance, which may give a performance advantage by offsetting dehydration. Future research should focus on maintaining plasma glycerol concentrations at levels necessary to maintain osmotic forces required to support continued hyperhydration. Potential benefits of glycerol should be further explored to identify the circumstances or factors that may contribute to an ergogenic effect.3. Even with no extra pump, I looked extra juicy, will update thread with pics maybe for before and after~ Roast Master, Resident Coffee Warlock~
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03-22-2012, 12:11 PM #27
Not to hijack the thread but has anyone tried the watermelon flavor? Love the lemon but watermelon sounds tasty!
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03-22-2012, 12:14 PM #30Logs:
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