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    SNS DAA+Triazole - Dosage and Possibly Last Stack Ever

    I'm 35, 5'10", 190 lbs, been lifting for shape and athletics for 13 years. I've done prohormones once, never done anabolics, and I've run stacks of AXT/Triazole twice now.

    I have said that for me, all I really need is proper diet, training, and sleep and I usually get the results I like, BUT I do like supplements when they work.

    Now I am ready to try this stack again, to see if it really boosts my test levels and how I perform in the gym. I have one bottle of SNS DAA caps and one bottle of Triazole. I am also thinking of adding L-dopa just to be safe.

    I did my preliminary bloodwork this morning, so I will have before and after results.

    Can anyone recommend the best dosage for this based on experience? Here is what I was thinking below:

    Weeks 1-2: DAA+L-dopa
    Weeks 2-4: DAA/L-dopa/Triazole
    Weeks 4-6: Triazole

    Thoughts? Suggestions? Experiences?
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    In for blood work.

    DAA dosage, stick to the recommended 4 caps. You can split it into 2/2 if you wish am/pm, or am/pre-wo.

    Triazole, I've never used but have heard good things about it. Overall dosing scheme looks sound to me.
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    Originally Posted by Nom Z View Post
    In for blood work.

    DAA dosage, stick to the recommended 4 caps. You can split it into 2/2 if you wish am/pm, or am/pre-wo.

    Triazole, I've never used but have heard good things about it. Overall dosing scheme looks sound to me.
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    Originally Posted by Gooch View Post
    I'm 35, 5'10", 190 lbs, been lifting for shape and athletics for 13 years. I've done prohormones once, never done anabolics, and I've run stacks of AXT/Triazole twice now.

    I have said that for me, all I really need is proper diet, training, and sleep and I usually get the results I like, BUT I do like supplements when they work.

    Now I am ready to try this stack again, to see if it really boosts my test levels and how I perform in the gym. I have one bottle of SNS DAA caps and one bottle of Triazole. I am also thinking of adding L-dopa just to be safe.

    I did my preliminary bloodwork this morning, so I will have before and after results.

    Can anyone recommend the best dosage for this based on experience? Here is what I was thinking below:

    Weeks 1-2: DAA+L-dopa
    Weeks 2-4: DAA/L-dopa/Triazole
    Weeks 4-6: Triazole

    Thoughts? Suggestions? Experiences?
    Personally I prefer longer 6-8 week runs of DAA, but that's just me.
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    Originally Posted by Gooch View Post
    I'm 35, 5'10", 190 lbs, been lifting for shape and athletics for 13 years. I've done prohormones once, never done anabolics, and I've run stacks of AXT/Triazole twice now.

    I have said that for me, all I really need is proper diet, training, and sleep and I usually get the results I like, BUT I do like supplements when they work.

    Now I am ready to try this stack again, to see if it really boosts my test levels and how I perform in the gym. I have one bottle of SNS DAA caps and one bottle of Triazole. I am also thinking of adding L-dopa just to be safe.


    I did my preliminary bloodwork this morning, so I will have before and after results.

    Can anyone recommend the best dosage for this based on experience? Here is what I was thinking below:

    Weeks 1-2: DAA+L-dopa
    Weeks 2-4: DAA/L-dopa/Triazole
    Weeks 4-6: Triazole

    Thoughts? Suggestions? Experiences?
    Am running this now. I started with 3/4 bottle Activate Xtreme with triazole and saw awesome results. After my 3/4 bottle of AX ran out, I put DAA in its place. I have been using the DAA w/ the TZ for about 3 weeks and am seeing good results BUT I preferred the AX/TZ combo. Hope this helps
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    Originally Posted by Gooch View Post
    I'm 35, 5'10", 190 lbs, been lifting for shape and athletics for 13 years. I've done prohormones once, never done anabolics, and I've run stacks of AXT/Triazole twice now.

    I have said that for me, all I really need is proper diet, training, and sleep and I usually get the results I like, BUT I do like supplements when they work.

    Now I am ready to try this stack again, to see if it really boosts my test levels and how I perform in the gym. I have one bottle of SNS DAA caps and one bottle of Triazole. I am also thinking of adding L-dopa just to be safe.

    I did my preliminary bloodwork this morning, so I will have before and after results.

    Can anyone recommend the best dosage for this based on experience? Here is what I was thinking below:

    Weeks 1-2: DAA+L-dopa
    Weeks 2-4: DAA/L-dopa/Triazole
    Weeks 4-6: Triazole

    Thoughts? Suggestions? Experiences?
    Few things. I would rather run the DAA longer, 6 weeks would be a nice spot. Activate Xtreme would compliment DAA nicely as it already has l-dopa in it. Triazole will work too. I would do 2 weeks with DAA, then 4 weeks DAA + Triazole.
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    Ok, thanks for all of the feedback guys. I'll let you know where my bloodwork comes in at when I get it in a few days.

    So how about this below:

    Weeks 1-2: DAA+L-dopa
    Weeks 2-6: DAA/L-dopa/Triazole
    Weeks 6-7: Triazole
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    Hey Guys,

    Today is day 2 of just SNs DAA.

    WORKOUT
    My session today was pretty good. I don't expect to feel anything until around the 12th day.

    DIGESTION
    Have had the runs all day. Not sure if I'm just off or the DAA is having that effect. I am also taking probiotics as I find that helps balance me out very well.

    PROSTATE
    I tend to get an enlarged prostate from test boosters, so I'm taking a mix of Saw Palmetto, Nettle Root, and Pumpkin. I had my PSA taken yesterday in addition to everything else (Total test, Free Test, FSH, LH, SHBG, TSH, T3, T4).

    LIBIDO
    I am a bit nervous about DAA in this regard. I know some people's libido reacts negatively, although most respond positively. My girl is coming in from out of town in 2 weeks, and we are MILES apart, so for roughly 14 days we will be having lots of sex. I can't have any issues at that time. I will wait and see what happens. I had a nice increase with Triazole as a standalone, but when I introduced the DAA midway through last time, my libido took a dip. I don't know what happened, but I was also VERY stressed so I best most of it was psychological. Anyway, if I start to experience any dips in libido, I'm stopping the DAA and resuming with the Triazole.

    LOADING
    Should I load for a few days? I understand it's not necessary, but what is the benefit to doing this?

    Thanks guys. I'll keep you posted on everything, although I'm not good about posting progression in lifts. I'll try, though.
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    Don't bother with DAA loading. I'm willing to bet your libido will go up quite a bit.
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    Also had increased libido from DAA without any GI issues.

    Like coop said, don't load.
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    Forgot to mention, I am not currently taking L-dopa. Do I really need it? I guess everyone responds differently, but ive read up a lot on L-dopa and I saw enough negative feedback to make the think twice about adding it.

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    It's another protective measure, gone through 3 bottles of DAA without any use of l-dopa.
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    Day 3. Still got the squirts. Leg day today was good. I felt like I could add more weight than expected and/or push out two more reps than usual. Probably psycho****tic, but encouraging.

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    Got my PRE stack bloodwork results today.

    Mar. 21, 2012

    Total Test - 511 (348 - 1197) ***This worries me as it is well below 668, the number for males 35-44. What does this mean for me?***

    Free Test - 18.14 (5.0 - 21.0)

    % Free Test - 3.55 (1.5 - 4.2)

    FSH - 2.3 (1.5 - 12.4) ***Worries me that this is so low in the range***

    LH - 2.9 (1.7 - 8.6) ***Worries me that this is so low in the range***

    IGF -1 - 221 (115 - 307)

    Estradiol, Sensitive - 12 (3 - 70)

    SHBG - 26.2 (16.5 - 55.9)

    TSH, T4, T3 uptake, FTI - HAPPY to report all in perfect middle range!!!!

    PSA - 1.2 (0.0 - 4.0) ***Lower than last time, but still high for my age - concerned***

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    Your numbers look great man. Don't worry too much about average test numbers; if you're asymptomatic of low T (which you should be at 511), I wouldn't be concerned. Your free test also looks great.

    Just because something is low in the range or lower than last time does not mean you should be concerned. When was your last bloodwork anyway?

    I have a feeling DAA will benefit you quite a bit since your LH/FSH aren't exactly high.
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    Your numbers look great man. Don't worry too much about average test numbers; if you're asymptomatic of low T (which you should be at 511), I wouldn't be concerned. Your free test also looks great.

    Just because something is low in the range or lower than last time does not mean you should be concerned. When was your last bloodwork anyway?

    I have a feeling DAA will benefit you quite a bit since your LH/FSH aren't exactly high.
    Going to echo this as well, you're in range without any complaints about lethargy/libido/etc, I wouldn't worry about the values on the lower range.
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    I have a question for all you guys on test stacks.. I really want to know what you are noticing from taking bioforge/triazole/daa etc ? I am currently on my 3rd week on test factor 4 a day, 4 triazole and 4 x factor adv and I notice i am not sure if this stack is really working. I just feel a little stronger, no libido changes, no oily skin, no pimples. I do feel stronger but not sure what is helping since I am stacking them all together..
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    Originally Posted by nyc_quy View Post
    I have a question for all you guys on test stacks.. I really want to know what you are noticing from taking bioforge/triazole/daa etc ? I am currently on my 3rd week on test factor 4 a day, 4 triazole and 4 x factor adv and I notice i am not sure if this stack is really working. I just feel a little stronger, no libido changes, no oily skin, no pimples. I do feel stronger but not sure what is helping since I am stacking them all together..
    I consistently get stronger on TZ and XFA...and I have a feeling that neither is hormone-related per se. How old are you? Does your diet usually provide high amounts of ArA?
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    I consistently get stronger on TZ and XFA...and I have a feeling that neither is hormone-related per se. How old are you? Does your diet usually provide high amounts of ArA?
    i am 38. i am not sure if my " diet " provides a lot of ArA but i am eating clean and hit all my macros. I take either craze or xtend as well.
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    i am 38. i am not sure if my " diet " provides a lot of ArA but i am eating clean and hit all my macros. I take either craze or xtend as well.
    That isn't my point. Most of these "clean" diets are actually deficient in ArA which increases the utility of a supplement like XFA.
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    That isn't my point. Most of these "clean" diets are actually deficient in ArA which increases the utility of a supplement like XFA.
    any suggestions? what changes can i make to make sure i am using these products to the best affects.
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    Originally Posted by nyc_quy View Post
    any suggestions? what changes can i make to make sure i am using these products to the best affects.
    Are you dosing the xfa using neuron's protocol? Workout days only, 4 caps XFA + 6g GMS + 1-2g of carnitine all 30-40 min preworkout.
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    Are you dosing the xfa using neuron's protocol? Workout days only, 4 caps XFA + 6g GMS + 1-2g of carnitine all 30-40 min preworkout.
    sorry don't mean to jack this thread.. no just taking xfa(4) 30 mins before workout. aware me on neuron's protocol..
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    Originally Posted by nyc_quy View Post
    sorry don't mean to jack this thread.. no just taking xfa(4) 30 mins before workout. aware me on neuron's protocol..
    You just quoted it lol
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    Thanks for the feedback, fellas. Back in January, I had suffered from a big life change and my levels dipped. I was overall pleased with the results received today.

    Today is day 6 on the stack and I feel good. Nothing extraordinary. Had a really good workout.

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    Originally Posted by Gooch View Post
    Thanks for the feedback, fellas. Back in January, I had suffered from a big life change and my levels dipped. I was overall pleased with the results received today.

    Today is day 6 on the stack and I feel good. Nothing extraordinary. Had a really good workout.

    Thanks again!
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    Life changes are a large cause of general population hormonal fluctuations. You'd be surprised how much mentality effects your health. I'd look at making sure that clears up before anything.

    Also, don't stress the DAA dosage timing. I've seen some guys worry about it. Just be semi-consistent and get it in and you'll love the effects of it.
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    Thanks again walkingmalice and Nom Z! I agree that mental health effects everything else. My life is much better than it was back in Jan, so that's good.

    I never knew how much stress, anxiety, etc. can effect your physical health. Stress really is the silent killer. I learned a HUGE lesson then. I have a good friend who's 35 and has suffered from chronic stress for the last 8 years and he is on TRT for the rest of his life. His doctor says his chronic stress killed his proper hormone production.

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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Few things. I would rather run the DAA longer, 6 weeks would be a nice spot. Activate Xtreme would compliment DAA nicely as it already has l-dopa in it. Triazole will work too. I would do 2 weeks with DAA, then 4 weeks DAA + Triazole.
    This too, the DAA part. I like running DAA for extended periods. IE 12-16 weeks.
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