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    5/3/1 & PHAT hybrid CUTTING log!

    I figured I'd start a log because I've been reading every other 5/3/1 log in this section. I'm far from a powerlifter, been lifting for a year, but for the first time I'm focusing on getting strong instead of just worrying about gaining muscle. I know now that getting strong will lead to gaining muscle by default!


    Body weight is 203. Been cutting since January 8th and started at 217. I'm eating 2000-2700 calories a day. Not too strict about it to be honest. I also do cardio a few times a week on the elliptical machine.


    I'm on my second 2nd Cycle of 5/3/1 and have sort of switched it up a bit to doing:

    http://www.muscleandstrength.com/wor...-training.html

    I'm a big fan of higher volume and I did PHAT for 6 months with good results. Anyways, on to the workout!


    Today was Power Day 5/3/1 week

    Bench Press:
    95x5
    135x5
    WorkSets
    155x5
    175x3
    195x6

    Bench is a real weak point for me. Hoping to be repping 225 by June or July.
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    Deadlift:
    135x5
    185x3
    WorkSets
    225x5
    275x3
    295x10!!!

    I was super pleased with this effort. Last week I did 305x3 which was really difficult and was really disappointed. My previous best was 285x8 for deadlifts so this is a good sign!

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    Bodyweight dips
    x10,10,10

    Gonna do it with 25 pound plate next time. I usually do 3-5 sets of 4-6 with 25 pounds but figured I'd do higher reps today.
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    DB Incline fly
    40x10
    40x7

    Ehhh...these sort of hurt my shoulder. Think I'll do Barbell Incline or Hammer Strength Incline next time.
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    DB Rows
    90x6
    90x8

    I like these but will probably switch to barbell rows for this day just because it's a power day and I figure barbell allows the most weight to be moved.
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    Hammer Strength Pulldowns
    167x8
    167x8

    Felt good. I should probably switch these out for chinups. I just hate doing chins because I suck at them. Can barely do 5 X bodyweight.
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    Barbell Curls
    80x6 ezbar
    70x6 straight bar
    70x5 straight bar

    Didn't push myself really hard on these. Oh well not too big of a deal.
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    Smith Close Grip Bench
    135x10
    145x8
    145x8
    155x6

    I like these. Never really did CGBP in my routines but keep seeing how great they are for triceps which is a major lagging area for me.
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    Awesome job.

    Whole lotta volume and a whole lotta deadlifts.

    295x10 is pretty badass.
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    Todays workout was okay. I don't know but I just feel a little off about it for some reason. Anyways, the 2nd cycle is over for 5/3/1 so it's time to recalculate. I haven't been doing the deload week because my lifts just aren't very high. I feel better just going into the next cycle until I feel that I need it.


    Squat
    45X5
    95X5
    135X3
    WorkSet
    185x5
    210x3
    235x6

    Last rep was really bad. Last week I got 225x7 and felt good about it so this week I should feel real good about getting only 1 less rep with 10 pounds. But last week the 225x7 felt like I had a couple more in me but my wrists were in a weird position. This week the 235 felt heavy.


    RDL
    185X10
    195X10
    225X6

    These were easy. Could have done 10 with the 225 but got a bit lazy midset.


    Anddddddd....that was it for my workout today. I went at 5pm and I'm used to going at noon so maybe that explains the shift in how I feel about it. Either way, tomorrow is my rest day but I'll probably end up going and doing 30-45 minutes of cardio.
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    Good job even with feeling like crap.

    I noticed that my workouts after work suffer more than if I go at 6am on a fairly empty stomach.

    2pm seems to be my cutoff for feeling really good working out.

    Might just be my laziness gene.

    I remember seeing an article by wendler recently called "deload without a deload"

    You basically do week 1 minus accessory work and no AMRAP on the final set.

    So you do 65-75-85%. Maybe that'll work for you so you get a mini deload.

    Even if the weights aren't "big" they are still taxing your body, so taking the back-off before you actually need it may help you feel more refreshed.
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    Thanks for the response. Maybe I'll do that!


    Today I went and did Overhead Press even though it was supposed to be my off day...I just love going to the gym!!

    Bodyweight down to 200.8 this morning. That's a total of 16 pounds last in 2 and a half months. Pretty good rate of loss I'd say.



    OHP
    80X5
    90X5
    105X3
    120X5

    Still getting used to these. I sort of feel like there's not enough work sets for these so I might pyramid up to the as many reps possible set then pyramid back down.
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    Seated DB Shoulder Press
    55x10
    55x10
    55x10

    Felt really good. I'll move up to the 60's next week. Is it normal/expected for my DB shoulder press to be higher than the barbell shoulder press?
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    Upright Rows
    90x6
    90x6
    90x8

    For the first time these didn't hurt my shoulder. I narrowed my grip to where my hands were about 6 inches apart and stopped when my arms were parallel with shoulders. These are gonna be great because I felt it in my traps/forearms as well.
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    DB Side Lateral Raise
    15x10
    15x12
    15x10

    I usually use the cables but I think i'll stick with dumbbells from now on. Definitely gives a great shoulder pump.


    Overall this workout was a success. Gonna re-calculate my cycle 3 numbers and prepare for next week!!
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    Nice job.

    It could be a matter of your grip placement on OHP.

    DB's allow you to get into a little more natural position. You don't need to avoid your head to push up.

    Also from what I understand I believe you are able to push more weight when seated since your body doesn't need to stabilize your core as much.

    I can't claim to know that last point for sure, but I do know that the combo of the placement of your grip on the barbell vs dumbbells can make a distinct difference.

    Either way those are some solid numbers!
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    Today was chest&arms. No 5/3/1 scheme.

    Smith Incline Bench
    155x8
    155x8
    155x8

    Hammer Strength Chest
    167x10
    167x8
    167x10

    Cable Flies
    40x12
    50x12
    50x12

    Hammer Curls
    25x12
    30x10
    35x8


    Incline DB Curls
    20x12
    20x10


    Tricep Rope Pushdown
    40x12
    45x12

    Reverse Tricep Pushdown w/Straight Bar
    70x12
    70x12


    Skullcrushers
    50x8
    50x12


    Cardio for 30 minutes on elliptical


    Good workout!!
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    Re-vamped my routine to a 4 day per week split. Still pretty high volume because I respond better to that. It's basically a Leg/Back/Bi & Chest/Shoulder/Tri split rotated.

    Day 1: Deadlift
    Conventional Deadlift-310 Training Max (345 1rm)
    Week 1: 210x5, 240x5, 270x5+
    Week 2: 225X3, 255X3, 290x3+
    Week 3: 240X5, 270X3, 305x1+
    Deload if needed or recalculate after week 3

    B: Squats 3-5x8-12
    C: Barbell Good Morning 3x8-12
    D: Barbell Row 3x6-10
    E: Reverse Close Grip Pulldown 4x6-10
    F: Barbell Curls 2x6-10


    Day 2: OHP
    Overhead Press-125 Training Max (135 1rm)
    Week 1: 85x5, 100x5, 110x5
    Week 2: 90x3, 105x3, 115x3+
    Week 3: 100x5, 110x3, 125x1+

    B: DB Incline Press 5x6-10
    C: Upright Rows 2x6-10
    D: DB Side Lateral Raise 2-3x8-12
    E: Face Pull 3x8-12
    F: Tricep Pushdown 4x10-12


    OFF:


    Day 3: Squat
    BB Squat-250 Training Max (265 1rm)
    Week 1: 170x5, 195x5, 220x5
    Week 2: 185X3, 205X3, 230x3+
    Week 3: 195X5, 220X3, 245x1+

    B: Romanian Deadlift 4x6-10
    C: Hyperextensions 3x8-12
    D: DB Rows 4x6-10
    E: Chin Ups 3xFailure
    F: DB Incline Curl 3x8-12



    Day 4: Bench Press
    BB Flat Bench-205 Training Max (220 1rm)
    Week 1: 135x5, 160x5, 180x5+
    Week 2: 145X3, 170X3, 190x3+
    Week 3: 160X5, 180X3, 200x1+

    B: DB Shoulder Press 5x6-10
    C: Dips 3x6-10
    D: Smith Incline Press 3x6-10
    E: Barbell Shrugs 3x8-12
    F: Skullcrushers 3x8-12


    How does this look? Do you see any exercises that you'd replace for something else? I feel that it's pretty balanced but am open to suggestions.
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    If you can maintain that volume and not be burnt out after the first couple weeks, more power to you.
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    Good workout today! My first day of my 3rd cycle but today I did 3's because I wanted to do a couple of singles at the end.


    Deadlift
    WU: 135x5
    185x5
    Working Sets:
    225x3
    275x3
    295x3

    Singles:
    315X1
    335X1

    Everything went good here. The 315 was really easy and the 335 wasn't too difficult either. My 1 rep max was 345 when starting the program so I'm probably a little bit past that now.
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    Squats
    155x6
    165x6
    175x6
    185x6

    Easy. Went through them fast because somebody was waiting for the rack. Probably should have did more reps on each set but no biggie.
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    Seated Leg Curls. Did these in place of Good Mornings today because the guy wanted the rack. Will do Good Mornings on Squat day this week.
    135x10
    135x10
    135x10

    These actually hit the hamstrings really hard. I might incorporate them on Deadlift day from now on regardless.
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    Hyperextensions
    +25 pound plateX10
    +35 poundX8
    +35 poundX12

    Felt nice. Great pump in the back and hamstrings.
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    Barbell Curl
    70x10
    70x10
    70x8

    Not a big fan of these anymore but I'll keep them in the routine because they're the best bicep exercise.
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    Decline Situps
    x10
    x12
    x12
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    Looking good.

    I might have to try pushing a few singles next cycle.
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    Thx man! I think doing heavy singles at least once per week will be beneficial. I'll probably only do them with DL and squats though.

    Forgot to log my OHP day on Tuesday. I have squats today.


    OHP
    80X5
    100X5
    110X8
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    DB Incline
    60x10
    65x8
    65x8
    65x8
    70x6
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    Barbell Row
    170x10
    170x8
    140x10
    140x10
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    CloseGrip Reverse PD
    120X12
    125X12
    135X12
    160X6
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    Tricep Pushdown
    100x12
    90x12
    60x12
    30x18
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    Face Pulls
    100x15
    100x15
    80x15
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    Squats today. I decided to some more volume today because I was feeling in the zone. The first couple of sets sucked but then it was like a switch turned on and I just wanted to do more lol.

    My cut is going alright. Still hovering around 200. Fluctuating between 200-203 most days. I'll probably start doing cardio at least 2 days per week to try and get it moving again. I'm only interested in reaching 15% then I'll start bulking. I'm at around 20% at the moment. Fat I know.




    WU
    45x5
    95x5
    135x3
    155x3
    Working Sets
    185x3
    205x3 (this felt kind of heavy for some reason)
    230x3 (felt really heavy so i was sort of getting pissed)
    225x3 felt great
    225x3 great again
    245x3...hard but got it
    255x3.. really hard and the last rep was basically a good morning. that matches my previous PR though and I was 15 pounds heavier then and eating 3k+ calories a day.
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    RDL
    170X10
    190X10
    200X10
    220X6

    Nice. Nothin to complain about here.
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    Leg Extensions
    120X10
    120X10
    120X10

    I know that the program doesn't advise these but they really give me a nice burn and mind muscle connection. I'm treating them like they don't really matter though.
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    Machine Preacher Curl
    60x10
    70x10
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    Overall a good workout. My legs are quivering as I type this so I'd call it a success.

    See you tomorrow for my Bench day update!


    I'm gonna start posting pics of my progress as well.

    205 pounds:





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    Nice job once again.

    15lbs lighter and Repping more of the same weight = nice strength gains.

    Shows that your strength is progressing pretty solidly and that you're not droppin weight too fast.

    Even wendler says when you're doing a true rep max things are gonna get ugly at times, but you're still getting that weight up so don't worry about being a form nazi too much.

    All about good form at that point vs perfect form.
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    I agree with what you said. It's definitely a good strength increase. I've increased my deadlifts during the cut as well. The only thing that's worse is bench press but not by that much. I think i'm gonna start trying to cut more aggressively because I honestly just want to get down to 15% fat then bulk again for awhile.



    Bench
    135x5
    160x5
    185x5

    Just did the prescribed reps. I usually bench in the power rack so I'm more comfortable doing AMRAP but today I was at a regular bench so didn't push it hard.
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    DB Shoulder Press
    50x6
    55x10
    55x10
    55x10
    55x10

    I know I said I was going to go up to 60's this time but there's a mental barrier for some reason. I'm aiming for 6-10 rep ranges so I'm sure I could do a few sets of 60's atleast. I'm mainly scared of trying to get the dumbbells up into position and failing then having everyone see lol.
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    Dips
    +25x5
    +25x5
    +25x5
    +25x5
    +25x5

    These were good. Probably stick with +25 and try to hit 6 reps across then I'll jump up to 30 or 35's.
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    DB Rows
    80x8
    80x8
    80x8
    55x20

    I think I'm going to drop these down to 65's or 70's and really focus on contracting the lats during the lift. I think I'm guilty of just trying to get the weight up but I need to focus more on form.
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    Vbar Pushdown/DB Lateral Raise Superset
    100x12/20x8
    100x12/15x10
    110x12/15x10
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    My bench numbers always suffer when I drop weight.

    Everyone says it's the most bodyweight related of the lifts. I guess that seems to be accurate at times.

    I usually add in an extra day of bench to maintain strength levels when cutting. The added frequency seems to help.

    But having a dedicated overhead press day seems to help mitigate losses for me now.
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    Deadlifts today. I was supposed to do 5/5/5+ of 275 but it didn't really turn out that way because I was feeling pretty good


    Warmup
    135x5
    185x5
    Work Set
    225x5
    245x5
    275x3
    315x6!

    That's a rep PR for that weight. I know last week I got 295x10 but somehow feel like this is a bigger accomplishment for me. Pretty stoked.
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    Squats
    155x8
    165x8
    175x8

    Felt great.
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    Barbell Good Morning
    115x10
    115x9
    115x10

    Got a nice stretch in the hamstrings.
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    Wide grip Barbell Curl
    80x6
    80x6

    Close grip Barbell Curl
    50x10
    50x10
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    Nice job on the PR.

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    OHP day

    Someone was using the rack so I couldn't do them.

    I just used the small barbells and atleast got some in

    50X10
    70X10
    100X7
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    DB Incline
    60x10
    60x10
    60x10
    65x10
    50x10
    -----------------
    Barbell Rows
    155x10
    135x10
    135x10
    135x10
    155x6
    ---------------
    Dips
    10
    10
    10
    8
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    DB Overhead Extension
    35X10
    35X10
    35X10
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    Face Pulls
    50x15
    50x15
    30x15


    Cardio for 15 minutes and burned 200 calories
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    Squat day

    WU
    45X5
    95X5
    135X5
    Working Set
    175x5
    195x5
    225x8...another rep PR lol
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    RDL
    185X10
    185X10
    185X10
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    Leg Extensions
    135x10
    135x10
    150x10
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    Seated Leg Curl
    120x10
    135x12
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    15x12
    20x12
    20x12




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    This week is my 5/3/1+...Haven't updated because I took it easy the last week. My weight was down to 198.6 this morning as well!

    Anyways, today was Deadlifts


    WU
    135X5
    185X3
    225X3
    Working Set
    245x5
    275x3
    305x10....Another PR!
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    Barbell Shrug
    225x10
    225x10
    225x10

    Nice
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    Squat
    165x8
    Front Squat
    95x8
    95x8
    Leg Press
    270x8
    270x8
    270x8

    Just wanted to hit the legs a bit more after DL's...leg press was obviously easy but I hadn't done it in a while and last time I did I bruised my ribs somehow. Took it slow.
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    DB Curl
    30x10
    30x10
    DB Incline Curl 15x15



    Feel good about the workout overall. The assistance lifts weren't spectacular but the main lift was great so it was a success!
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    OHP Today. I think I lost some strength because I haven't been able to do it for 2 weeks. Each time I go someone is using the rack. It was open today.

    OHP
    45X10
    65X5
    Working Set
    100X5
    110x3
    115x5

    75x10
    75x10
    75x10
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    Dips
    10
    10
    10
    -----
    Chinups
    5
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    Reverse Pulldown
    135x10
    150x10
    165x7
    -------
    Wide Lat Pulldown
    120x7
    120x11
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    Tricep Pushdown
    80x12
    90x12
    90x12
    70x20
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    DB Rows
    60x10
    65x8
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    Squat day

    Warmed up

    Working Sets
    195x5
    225x3
    245x5.... Rep PR! Feels good. I can't wait to see what happens when I start bulking again.
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    Good Mornings
    115x10
    115x10
    115x10
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    90x10
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    Bench 5's day

    Warmed Up

    Work Sets
    135x5
    160x5
    180x5

    Didn't push for more reps. Probably could have gotten 3-4 more pretty easily. I don't like doing that when I'm alone though because I don't want to fail.
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    DB Incline
    60x10
    60x10
    60x10
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    Dips
    BWx10
    BWx10
    +25x5
    +35x3
    +35x3
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    Seated Cable Rows
    135x10
    142.5x10
    180x5
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    Barbell Row
    140x10
    140x10
    120x12
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    Tricep Pushdown
    100x12
    110x12
    80x20
    50x40


    15 minutes of cardio and 200 cals burned.
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    Deadlift 3's day, plus a heavier double and single

    225x3
    230x3
    275x3
    300x3
    325x2
    335x1


    It's really strange how 335 feels pretty heavy and hard to pull but I am able to get 305x10. 1 rep max calculators say I should be able to do 400-405 but there is absolutely NO way that would happen. I probably couldn't even lift 375.
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    120x10
    135x10
    135x10
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    65's X15
    75's X15
    80's X10
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    Barbell Curl
    70x10
    70x8
    50x10 close grip
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    95x8
    115x5
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    Nice job these days!

    Yeah rep calculators can get kind of iffy with high reps.

    Seem to be more accurate at a max rep range of like 7-8.

    Still I am sure you'll have 405 in no time.
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    thx man.

    yeah, i guess it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. i'm making a goal of 405x5 by the end of the year. i have a feeling i'll surpass it but that's just icing on the cake.

    by the end of the year i want for 1 rm's
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    Based on the way you are going those are certainly doable goals.

    I'm going to run another cycle of 5/3/1 and then re-evaluate my progress.

    Feels like i still have some linear gains in the tank based on some reading I have done, but need to weigh the pros/cons of speeding progress up.
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    5/3/1 OHP Day

    Once again the rack was taken and I couldn't do them. Starting to get annoyed with it!

    DB Shoulder Press
    45x10
    50x10
    55x10
    ----
    Upright Row
    70x10
    80x10
    ----
    DB Incline Fly
    35x15
    ------
    Hammer Strength Pulldown
    147x10
    167x10
    -----
    DB Row
    60x10
    -----
    Hammer Strength Iso Row
    192x10
    192x5
    -------
    Overhead DB Extension
    35x12
    40x12
    45x10
    45x10



    Haha...it's pretty all over the place but I'm doing the Periodization Bible template so it works. I like being able to vary exercises and just do whatever I feel like. The assistance 'doesn't matter' after all, right?
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    I know the feeling.

    I hate morning workouts, but it's the only time I can assure myself usually of a rack.

    I keep complaining to my Y to get more.

    Can't wait to have a garage to put a rack in one day.
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