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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    you never offered anything for them

    APE Day 6:

    i am thinking i will be taking APE about an hour before my workouts on lifting days. no real reason for this other than curious to see how this would help. on nonlifting days i will probably just take it in the morning as i have been. i am loving the get up and go it offers in the morning so that is why i am going to try it with my preworkout. will probably not be buying anymore C4 lol. it was alright but not what i am looking for in a pre-WO supplement. i preferred longer lasting energy since i tend to stretch some of my workouts(especially deadlift focused workouts) into the 90+ minute range!

    anyone got any suggestions for that?
    Pretty obvious you should add Presurge

    dat dere 4g of GPLC.....BOOM!



    but i am serious though check my log bro
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    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    Pretty obvious you should add Presurge

    dat dere 4g of GPLC.....BOOM!



    but i am serious though check my log bro
    GPLC? headed there now actually lol. there had better be noodz(or a link to noodz) or prepare thyself for my red retribution
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    GPLC? headed there now actually lol. there had better be noodz(or a link to noodz) or prepare thyself for my red retribution
    yes the Greater Pittsburgh Literacy Council can help you with your goals


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    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    yes the Greater Pittsburgh Literacy Council can help you with your goals


    GPLC (glycine propionyl l-carnitine) for the pumps
    Presurge.... might give it a try. will look into it.
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    Presurge.... might give it a try. will look into it.
    i would send you samples but i dont have any for about 2 more weeks and then i can send you some with a t shirt so you quit crying
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    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    i would send you samples but i dont have any for about 2 more weeks and then i can send you some with a t shirt so you quit crying
    lol the t-shirt thing was a joke. i will probably end up going with the PreSurge though . the reviews and feedback on it are pretty damn good as far as i can see. will probably keep Creatine RT in mind as well here in the next few months when i start using that again
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    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    i would send you samples but i dont have any for about 2 more weeks and then i can send you some with a t shirt so you quit crying
    In for t-shirt
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    Originally Posted by TheReverend View Post
    In for t-shirt
    you gonna take the Presurge sample one of these days?
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    Originally Posted by TheReverend View Post
    In for t-shirt
    dont worry i will make you 2 shirts out of the fabric from one of mine

    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    you gonna take the Presurge sample one of these days?
    you are every fukking where tonight! my damn CP does not stop moving when you get online!
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    dont worry i will make you 2 shirts out of the fabric from one of mine



    you are every fukking where tonight! my damn CP does not stop moving when you get online!
    im trying to keep busy so i dont think about food

    cant watch tv cause every other commercial has like a freakin bacon cheeseburger in it
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    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    im trying to keep busy so i dont think about food

    cant watch tv cause every other commercial has like a freakin bacon cheeseburger in it
    well in that case.

    Dinner Update

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    2 servings of refried beans with sour cream, salsa, and cheese

    u jelly?
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    well in that case.

    Dinner Update

    6 homemade enchiladas with sour cream and salsa
    2 servings of refried beans with sour cream, salsa, and cheese

    u jelly?
    just had a banana for my daily carbs

    jelly?

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    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    just had a banana for my daily carbs

    jelly?

    you're almost done brah, almost fukking done. just think: Saturday its all about some beer and Chipotle
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    you're almost done brah, almost fukking done. just think: Saturday its all about some beer and Chipotle
    im more bothered by the lack of water than the carbs honestly

    skin is dry and im just sitting here sweating
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    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    you gonna take the Presurge sample one of these days?
    First time I go to gym after contest. Promise.

    Originally Posted by E_P_C View Post
    im more bothered by the lack of water than the carbs honestly
    ****ing that. I was even super vigilant about spitting everything out after brushing teeth when I just wanted to drink all that **** in...
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    lol honestly i got to give you 2 props. i wouldnt survive a serious cut like that! every once in a while i kind of go into a half ass cut where i only try and eat enough to maintain a weight range while burning off some extra fat. usually i am pretty successful this way but i have never cut down to the point where i can clearly see a six pack. you guys are crazy as fuk!!!

    ofcourse, EPC is the only person i know that has cut 20+ pounds and increased his deadlift by 50+ at the same time

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    Day 5- Back, Biceps, and Abz

    Deadlifts
    w/u- 245x8
    335x3
    385x3
    430x3 vid
    445x1
    465x1 vid

    Goodmornings
    155x7
    180x5
    205x5 vid
    225x3 vid
    250x3(PR) vid

    Barbell T-Bar Row(PWO)
    180x7
    200x7
    200x7
    225x5
    225x5

    Dimel Deadlifts
    225x10
    225x9
    225x10


    Alternating DB Curls
    25x7
    30x7
    35x7
    40x5
    45x5

    Cable Crunch
    150x12(5 sets)

    NOTES
    Great workout. wanted to go heavier on the deads but sticking with the program as written today lol. the only real new exercise were the Dimel deads. i liked them. looking for any advices on the goodmornings if you guys see room for improvement. if not that is good too nothing much else to comment on.

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    Damn dude. I'd be crazy nervous going that heavy on goodmornings.

    GJDM though
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    lmao forgot my first week review of APE:

    ITS WORKING!!!

    Recovery- My recovery time has been damn near phenomenal this week. usually if i had done that much squatting on Monday i would still look forward to some legs fatigue... today i had to stop myself from ripping 500 off the floor just to see if i could so yeah as far as helping the recovery processes APE gets an A++.
    Mood- While it has helped my mood I have also noticed that my patience is a little shorter than normal. it doesnt take much to get me irritated but it is nothing too bad. i just put it down and take it out on the iron when i get in the gym.
    Energy and Libido- has definitely improved. i forgot i was going to take APE as preworkout today so i took it in the morning as normal. no biggy. energy this last week has been through the roof. i go through a 10 hour workday(everyday), hit a workout, and my commute to work/gym is an hour to and from the house(my gym is about a block and a half from where i work). even after all that i get home and i am still going nostop! and even after all that i still have more than enough to perform my marital duties which the wife has definitely noticed a change but i ain't giving away the secret lol.
    Other Observations- i have noticed in the last week that i have become "harder" and i dont mean my cawk. i forgot to check weight earlier so i will do it tomorrow but i would have to say i probably lost some weight this week(srs). while i am not exactly rocking the 8 pack, the stomach and love handles dont have as much pinch to them. if these type of results are the norm for APE then i will most likely go ahead and hit up the full 8 week cycle.

    too bad tomorrow and Sunday are off days from working out and APE especially since tomorrow is another 10 hour work day!!!
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    Originally Posted by TheReverend View Post
    Damn dude. I'd be crazy nervous going that heavy on goodmornings.

    GJDM though
    lol you might get crazy nervous but i was fukking scared i havent taken GMs past 225 ever and havent taken them past 185 in a long time
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    first off day wasnt too bad. the only thing i missed is the "pick me up" it gives in the morning... so i subbed it for a Monster

    work day was alot shorter than i thought so going to pretty much not do a damn thing but some chores and chill this weekend.
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    SST Week 2

    Day 2- Legs and Abz

    Squats
    135x10
    185x5
    235x5
    275x5
    315x5 Belted Vid

    Front Squat
    135x5
    175x5
    Belted Sets
    205x5
    230x5 vid

    Barbell Hack Squats
    250x7
    270x5
    280x5
    300x3
    315x3(PR)

    BB Glute Bridges
    145x7
    225x5
    225x5
    250x3
    275x3(PR) vid

    Ghetto GHRs
    BWx5
    i will be finding a replacement for these. extreme discomfort in the hammies. its not worth the risk without a proper GHR bench

    Russian Twists
    35x12
    35x12
    35x12
    35x12
    35x12

    NOTES
    Squats were awesome but i was definitely feeling the abuse to low back from Friday and work today. usually i wouldnt belt up for 315 but it is what it is. still nailed them pretty easily.
    Front squats were awesome and deep as fuk on the vid trust me when i say that 230 LOOKS easier than it was today.
    Hacks killed my poor little quads. too many people were around me so couldnt get a vid but i am pretty sure my form is getting better.
    Bridges killed dem glutez GHRs were extremely uncomfortable today. pulled hard as hell on the hamstrings right near the back of my knee(left). so i canned the exercise before injury(hopefully). i need a replacement for these. Russian twists killed the abs and obliques.

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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    lmao forgot my first week review of APE:

    ITS WORKING!!!

    Recovery- My recovery time has been damn near phenomenal this week. usually if i had done that much squatting on Monday i would still look forward to some legs fatigue... today i had to stop myself from ripping 500 off the floor just to see if i could so yeah as far as helping the recovery processes APE gets an A++.
    Mood- While it has helped my mood I have also noticed that my patience is a little shorter than normal. it doesnt take much to get me irritated but it is nothing too bad. i just put it down and take it out on the iron when i get in the gym.
    Energy and Libido- has definitely improved. i forgot i was going to take APE as preworkout today so i took it in the morning as normal. no biggy. energy this last week has been through the roof. i go through a 10 hour workday(everyday), hit a workout, and my commute to work/gym is an hour to and from the house(my gym is about a block and a half from where i work). even after all that i get home and i am still going nostop! and even after all that i still have more than enough to perform my marital duties which the wife has definitely noticed a change but i ain't giving away the secret lol.
    Other Observations- i have noticed in the last week that i have become "harder" and i dont mean my cawk. i forgot to check weight earlier so i will do it tomorrow but i would have to say i probably lost some weight this week(srs). while i am not exactly rocking the 8 pack, the stomach and love handles dont have as much pinch to them. if these type of results are the norm for APE then i will most likely go ahead and hit up the full 8 week cycle.

    too bad tomorrow and Sunday are off days from working out and APE especially since tomorrow is another 10 hour work day!!!
    Just started week 3 on APE, and that has been pretty much my experience.

    Mood wise, I'm fairly mellow, but get irritated more easily. I have lost 2.5 inches off my gut, but gained 1 pound of Body weight. Girlfriend is also loving the extra cardio she's been getting from APE too Dunno about the recovery as I'm on Creatine to help with that...

    Honestly, it's like I said OK time to cut, but APE said naaa, we're doing a recomp
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    Originally Posted by Deadbob View Post
    Just started week 3 on APE, and that has been pretty much my experience.

    Mood wise, I'm fairly mellow, but get irritated more easily. I have lost 2.5 inches off my gut, but gained 1 pound of Body weight. Girlfriend is also loving the extra cardio she's been getting from APE too Dunno about the recovery as I'm on Creatine to help with that...

    Honestly, it's like I said OK time to cut, but APE said naaa, we're doing a recomp
    lol i am glad you bumped that post Bob, i weighed in at 221(+1 pound from start of log) today.... and the midsection is definitely more solid(although as mentioned i am not raocking the sixer).

    i have already decided that if i can afford it i will be grabbing another bottle of APE and carrying on as planned. hopefully by the end of this log i still have my job!!! we are in the middle of layoffs and i am still the new guy right now so.....
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    lmao forgot my first week review of APE:

    ITS WORKING!!!

    Recovery- My recovery time has been damn near phenomenal this week. usually if i had done that much squatting on Monday i would still look forward to some legs fatigue... today i had to stop myself from ripping 500 off the floor just to see if i could so yeah as far as helping the recovery processes APE gets an A++.
    Mood- While it has helped my mood I have also noticed that my patience is a little shorter than normal. it doesnt take much to get me irritated but it is nothing too bad. i just put it down and take it out on the iron when i get in the gym.
    Energy and Libido- has definitely improved. i forgot i was going to take APE as preworkout today so i took it in the morning as normal. no biggy. energy this last week has been through the roof. i go through a 10 hour workday(everyday), hit a workout, and my commute to work/gym is an hour to and from the house(my gym is about a block and a half from where i work). even after all that i get home and i am still going nostop! and even after all that i still have more than enough to perform my marital duties which the wife has definitely noticed a change but i ain't giving away the secret lol.
    Other Observations- i have noticed in the last week that i have become "harder" and i dont mean my cawk. i forgot to check weight earlier so i will do it tomorrow but i would have to say i probably lost some weight this week(srs). while i am not exactly rocking the 8 pack, the stomach and love handles dont have as much pinch to them. if these type of results are the norm for APE then i will most likely go ahead and hit up the full 8 week cycle.

    too bad tomorrow and Sunday are off days from working out and APE especially since tomorrow is another 10 hour work day!!!
    I can't tell you how closely your feedback mimics my own experiences with APE.

    Originally Posted by Deadbob View Post
    Just started week 3 on APE, and that has been pretty much my experience.

    Mood wise, I'm fairly mellow, but get irritated more easily. I have lost 2.5 inches off my gut, but gained 1 pound of Body weight. Girlfriend is also loving the extra cardio she's been getting from APE too Dunno about the recovery as I'm on Creatine to help with that...

    Honestly, it's like I said OK time to cut, but APE said naaa, we're doing a recomp
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    love the feedback...so with the Glute Bridges, you used the bench this time?
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    Originally Posted by ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION View Post
    I can't tell you how closely your feedback mimics my own experiences with APE.

    The recomp effects of APE are serious and its a powerful aspect of the product that should NOT be overlooked.

    Libido increase... check!
    yeah definitely a VERY good product you have here!

    Originally Posted by B1GinNY82307 View Post
    love the feedback...so with the Glute Bridges, you used the bench this time?
    no unfortunately all the benches were taken.... i think it has to do with the fact that i hit legs on International Chest Day


    update: i have managed to be fairly fukked up this week. i put my car in the shop yesterday for some of its routine maintenance(timing belt, etc.) and i left my APE in the car so today i missed it. i also managed to miss my workout today mostly due to a 13 hour workday got to make that money! will make up the workout tomorrow
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    Hey Gorilla, how'd you break out of half squats?

    Despite my knee issues I wanna try and make em work so I can build up more muscle around them.
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    Originally Posted by TheReverend View Post
    Hey Gorilla, how'd you break out of half squats?

    Despite my knee issues I wanna try and make em work so I can build up more muscle around them.
    it was when i joined this site and got vids up that my squat finally started to look semi-respectable. for me checking the ego wasnt difficult since i have by far been stronger with a full ROM than i ever was with a partial quarter squat.

    i was also "lucky" that i hadnt trained very long on squats before i realized i was fukking them up. i suggest getting a vid and posting it either in your journal(if you plan to keep one) or post it up in here. there is a poster in the Misc Strength Crew named austin.t.taylor that always has the best advice for correcting any deficiencies in squat form. another poster named Farley1324(dont remember the numbers lol) also has a very good coaching eye for them. if you post a vid up i will get them both to critique it. most of the time flexibility is the issue most people have trouble with
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    Originally Posted by 400Lb Gorilla View Post
    it was when i joined this site and got vids up that my squat finally started to look semi-respectable. for me checking the ego wasnt difficult since i have by far been stronger with a full ROM than i ever was with a partial quarter squat.

    i was also "lucky" that i hadnt trained very long on squats before i realized i was fukking them up. i suggest getting a vid and posting it either in your journal(if you plan to keep one) or post it up in here. there is a poster in the Misc Strength Crew named austin.t.taylor that always has the best advice for correcting any deficiencies in squat form. another poster named Farley1324(dont remember the numbers lol) also has a very good coaching eye for them. if you post a vid up i will get them both to critique it. most of the time flexibility is the issue most people have trouble with
    Oh lawd. "Hey bro, can you video tape me fighting me with 2 whole plates?"
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