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    If you download potentially copyrighted software, videos or music, your Internet service provider (ISP) has been watching, and they’re coming for you.

    Specifically, they’re coming for you on Thursday, July 12.

    That’s the date when the nation’s largest ISPs will all voluntarily implement a new anti-piracy plan that will engage network operators in the largest digital spying scheme in history, and see some users’ bandwidth completely cut off until they sign an agreement saying they will not download copyrighted materials.


    Word of the start date has been largely kept secret since ISPs announced their plans last June. The deal was brokered by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and the Motion Picture Association of America (MPAA), and coordinated by the Obama Administration. The same groups have weighed in heavily on controversial Internet policies around the world, with similar facilitation by the Obama’s Administration’s State Department.

    The July 12 date was revealed by the RIAA’s CEO and top lobbyist, Cary Sherman, during a publishers’ conference on Wednesday in New York, according to technology publication CNet.

    The content industries calls this scheme a “graduated response” plan, which will see Time Warner Cable, Cablevision, Comcast, Verizon, AT&T and others spying on users’ Internet activities and watching for potential copyright infringement. Users who are “caught” infringing on a creator’s protected work can then be interrupted with a notice that piracy is forbidden by law and carries penalties of up to $150,000 per infringement, requiring the user to click through saying they understand the consequences before bandwidth is restored, and they could still be subject to copyright infringement lawsuits.

    Participating ISPs have a range of options for dealing with customers who continue to pirate media, at that point: They can require that an alleged repeat offender undergo an educational course before their service is restored. They can utilize multiple warnings, restrict access to only certain major websites like Google, ******** or a list of the top 200 sites going, reduce someone’s bandwidth to practically nothing and even share information on repeat offenders with competing ISPs, effectively creating a sort of Internet blacklist — although publicly, none of the network operators have agreed to “terminate” a customer’s service.

    It is because of those reasons that the content industries believe this program achieves much more than what might have been possible in the realm of public policy, and the ISPs appear to agree. The voluntary scheme will be paid for mostly by the content industries, which will share some costs with the ISPs.

    Not everyone sees it as a positive: The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a digital rights advocacy group, argued that the “graduated response” scheme lacks transparency, and that copyright holders could wield the network operators like a blunt instrument in cases where their claims may not be entirely valid — which is the biggest problem with statutes codified by the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. They also pressed for assurances that claim reviews will be conducted by a neutral party, and suggested that users should be given some form of due process before their bandwidth is turned down or cut off entirely.


    The EFF also took issue with the system of protest the program puts in place, which only gives users six predetermined “defenses” against a copyright claim. “And even the six enumerated defenses are incomplete,” they complained. “For example, the ‘public domain’ defense applies only if the work was created before 1923 — even though works created after 1923 can enter the public domain in a variety of ways.”

    A legislative effort that would have achieved some, but not all, of these ends was utterly destroyed by the Internet’s first ever mass work stoppage late last year, which saw thousands of popular websites go dark in protest. (Disclosure: The Raw Story participated in that protest.)

    It’s not yet clear how the tech world will react to the ISPs siding with the content industries to do what the government simply could not.
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    Im so fukin scared dude ive been torrenting for 3 years what if i get fined 150k for each? is this real? can they actually do this?
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    what happened to that "ISPs arent allowed to look at what you download, just like how the post office arent allowed to read your mail" thing?
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    Originally Posted by HelpMeLol View Post
    Im so fukin scared dude ive been torrenting for 3 years what if i get fined 150k for each? is this real? can they actually do this?
    Won't happen. However, there is an increasingly large chance that in the future, you will get caught by your ISP for downloading much quicker, and they will punish you for it. You will get your internet shut down before you have to worry about getting in legal trouble I believe. True downloaders will need to move to tor + vpn, which will still be a badass way to download, and not sniffable by ISPs anytime in the near future.
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    And the battle for the control of the internet continues but inept retards in Washington, who is being pocketed with the backing of Hollywood/Cable/ect.

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    Originally Posted by Cronoh View Post
    Won't happen. However, this is an increasingly large chance that in the future, you will get caught by your ISP for downloading much quicker, and they will punish you for it. You will get your internet shut down before you have to worry about getting in legal trouble I believe. True downloaders will need to move to tor + vpn, which will still be a badass way to download, and not de-codable by ISPs anytime in the near future.
    This, in the last couple years my ISP has already had the rule, if they catch your IP downloading illegal TV show, movies, games, three times they will turn off you internet connection and you can no longer get internet from them. You are liable for your IP, so if you share out your internet to your roommate, or don't know how to lock down a wireless router, you will be held accountable and will still be banned from your ISP.

    VPN is becoming less reliable, ISP are getting better equipment for deep packet inspection and can still see what you are doing, so you always have to be on top of your game and get the latest encryption technology for VPN.
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    Originally Posted by pointeo View Post
    This, in the last couple years my ISP has already had the rule, if they catch your IP downloading illegal TV show, movies, games, three times they will turn off you internet connection and you can no longer get internet from them. You are liable for your IP, so if you share out your internet to your roommate, or don't know how to lock down a wireless router, you will be held accountable and will still be banned from your ISP.

    VPN is becoming less reliable, ISP are getting better equipment for deep packet inspection and can still see what you are doing, so you always have to be on top of your game and get the latest encryption technology for VPN.
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    Just use a proxy service. ISPs only know that you're using the service, but not what you're downloading. problem solved.

    I would recommend that anyone downloading copyright material, or surfing porn use a proxy anyway.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Just use a proxy service. ISPs only know that you're using the service, but not what you're downloading. problem solved.

    I would recommend that anyone downloading copyright material, or surfing porn use a proxy anyway.
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    1. Won't this put a burden on the ISPs? More management = more man power

    2. Some people might cancel their service with an IP that doesn't respect their privacy, they don't want to lose customers do they?
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    1. Won't this put a burden on the ISPs? More management = more man power

    2. Some people might cancel their service with an IP that doesn't respect their privacy, they don't want to lose customers do they?
    They'll probably only try to get the people who are crazy aka download like 10gbs a day or something.
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    1. Won't this put a burden on the ISPs? More management = more man power

    2. Some people might cancel their service with an IP that doesn't respect their privacy, they don't want to lose customers do they?
    In regards to both your questions, the MPAA and RIAA are probably paying ISPs a decent amount of money to have them "volunteer." Until enough people cancel their service they will do what's financially best for them. There are ways of encrypting your traffic (vpn) which should work fine. If comcast ever gives me any kind of service outage I will cancel their service and go ape**** on them.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Just use a proxy service. ISPs only know that you're using the service, but not what you're downloading. problem solved.

    I would recommend that anyone downloading copyright material, or surfing porn use a proxy anyway.
    when I surfed with a proxy it was slow as hell, any tips on how to find good ones?
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    1. Won't this put a burden on the ISPs? More management = more man power

    2. Some people might cancel their service with an IP that doesn't respect their privacy, they don't want to lose customers do they?
    most people don't have lots of choices tho
    some dont have any

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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Just use a proxy service. ISPs only know that you're using the service, but not what you're downloading. problem solved.

    I would recommend that anyone downloading copyright material, or surfing porn use a proxy anyway.
    how can i use a proxy? aware me?
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    Originally Posted by HelpMeLol View Post
    Im so fukin scared dude ive been torrenting for 3 years what if i get fined 150k for each? is this real? can they actually do this?
    Pretty much says they are going to start spying. Also, it seems that you get a first warning before you have to worry about them (and by that point you should know they are watching you).
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Just use a proxy service. ISPs only know that you're using the service, but not what you're downloading. problem solved.

    I would recommend that anyone downloading copyright material, or surfing porn use a proxy anyway.
    Originally Posted by blumpkin415 View Post
    this
    I should really know this by now, but can you aware me on how to use proxy?
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    Originally Posted by HelpMeLol View Post
    Im so fukin scared dude ive been torrenting for 3 years what if i get fined 150k for each? is this real? can they actually do this?
    lol brb every male under the age of thirty owes $9 quadrillion in fines.
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    Originally Posted by Bannister11 View Post
    when I surfed with a proxy it was slow as hell, any tips on how to find good ones?
    This. I even tried paying for one and it was slow as hell (like 225 kbps). Anybody knows a good one that gives you decent bandwidth let me know for .25 reps!
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