ON WHEY PROTEIN 2scoops AFTER WORKOUT

[LiLRanE]

is this enough for 168lbs? and do you think if i make it 3-4scoops after workout and drink it will my body absorb all of it?

[Lonny]

2 scoops should be good, consider taking one preworkout as well with some carbs if you aren't already.

[Docta J]

Two scoops post workout is good. Try and get some fast digesting carbs like waxy maize starch or something in PWO too to help get the nutrients to the muscles quickly!

[BIG F@CE]

at 4 scoops does anyone *NOT* recommend having 100+ grams of protein in one serving?

[aamcomcd]

I take two scoops post workout and I'm 177 lbs, make sure you have one scoop pre-workout and at least another two-scoop-shake at some other point during the day as well.

[5Six]

Just stick to 2 scoops of whey protein after a workout, I think that is around ~44 g of protein for ON. I can't remember the exact number Just make sure you are still getting lots of protein from whole food and not just protein shakes.

Being ~170 lbs you want to get at 170 - 250 gr of protein a day, divided into 4 - 6 meals a day. The calcualtion is 1.0 - 1.5 g of protein/ lb of body weight a day, just FYI.

[lilgio68]

your body cant do much more than about 33 g of protein powder.

some people recommend mass numbers like above 60 g but most of this is just converted into fat

one of the professional trainers at school said 20 g and my other one said 32 g which is about right.

i go ahead and do about 40 g though

[Docta J]

Originally Posted by BIG F@CE

at 4 scoops does anyone *NOT* recommend having 100+ grams of protein in one serving?

I wouldn't recommend it. Your body won't be able to absorb 100+ grams of protein at once, a lot of it will goto waste. You'd be best off just going with 2 scoops PWO, and if your diet needs it, you can add in some more protein shake(s) later. Try and get as much protein from whole foods as possible though.

P.S. 2 scoops of ON 100% whey is 48g of protein.

[10TonBrick]

i usually use 2 scoops, somtimes ill go 3 scoops after leg or back day

4 scoops wont do anything more than than 2 will for a 170lber like urself

[triplewhammy]

2 scoops is fine.

-triple

[Lonny]

Originally Posted by lilgio68

your body cant do much more than about 33 g of protein powder.

some people recommend mass numbers like above 60 g but most of this is just converted into fat

one of the professional trainers at school said 20 g and my other one said 32 g which is about right.

i go ahead and do about 40 g though

Do you happen to have anything that demonstrates the least bit of truth in these statements? I ask because a lot of people throw around numbers and 32 is usually the magical one but it is far from concrete proof.

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by Lonny

Do you happen to have anything that demonstrates the least bit of truth in these statements? I ask because a lot of people throw around numbers and 32 is usually the magical one but it is far from concrete proof.

agreed, over time the body adjust to absorbing a higher amount of protein, do u think ronnie colman builds muscle on 30g of protein every 3 hours...i think not

[h_s]

please dont bash me out here guys...im just a beginer compared to most of you. however i have a coment and questions.

if a daily value is set for 50grms of protein...and lets say you eat breakfast and lunch but no dinner or lunch and dinner no breakfast...at least you should be consuming a good 25 or more grms of protein with your meals. even if its like a burger or such you still get lot of protein from all types of meat.

so lets say you eat better than regular people and have 3-4 meals a day...at least you should be ingesting 50gms a day. am i right here?

so if a normal person need 50 per day...and your trainign hard and want to gain weight and mass and whatever...and you take a protein shake in a mild serving of 25grms...you are already ingesting 50% more than wahts necesary in your body right? shouldnt that be enough for somebody that is NOT a dedicated or heavily bodybuilder...but just worksout after work and clasess...those extra 25grms should be enough?

so lets say you train harder and need more protein and you want to gain more...so you take 50grms in shakes...your taking 200% the daily value or twice what your basic needs are. shouldnt that be more than enough? and also shouldnt you take that into 2 servings like morning and evening so the protein gets absorbed and not wasted when you serve yourself a big shot like that if your body cant absorb it, then it will waste that aint it?

so my points are...you should ingest that many protein grms in one serving right??? and if your an avg joe that takes clases in the early morning, work full day and then at night go work out just to keep yourself in shape...25grms to a max of 50gmrs per day in shakes should be more than enough???

thanks guys.

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by h_s

please dont bash me out here guys...im just a beginer compared to most of you. however i have a coment and questions.

if a daily value is set for 50grms of protein...and lets say you eat breakfast and lunch but no dinner or lunch and dinner no breakfast...at least you should be consuming a good 25 or more grms of protein with your meals. even if its like a burger or such you still get lot of protein from all types of meat.

so lets say you eat better than regular people and have 3-4 meals a day...at least you should be ingesting 50gms a day. am i right here?

so if a normal person need 50 per day...and your trainign hard and want to gain weight and mass and whatever...and you take a protein shake in a mild serving of 25grms...you are already ingesting 50% more than wahts necesary in your body right? shouldnt that be enough for somebody that is NOT a dedicated or heavily bodybuilder...but just worksout after work and clasess...those extra 25grms should be enough?

so lets say you train harder and need more protein and you want to gain more...so you take 50grms in shakes...your taking 200% the daily value or twice what your basic needs are. shouldnt that be more than enough? and also shouldnt you take that into 2 servings like morning and evening so the protein gets absorbed and not wasted when you serve yourself a big shot like that if your body cant absorb it, then it will waste that aint it?

so my points are...you should ingest that many protein grms in one serving right??? and if your an avg joe that takes clases in the early morning, work full day and then at night go work out just to keep yourself in shape...25grms to a max of 50gmrs per day in shakes should be more than enough???

thanks guys.

no, a bodybuiler needs at least 1 gram per pound of bosy weight, so for me it would be 275g minimum, however i eat more around 350g, i see no need to go over 400g, unless ur carb depleting or a pro

the body need soo much more than the FDA guide line bull****...FDA doent know as much as u think they would...welcome to a new world

[LiLRanE]

thanks to all,

[h_s]

Originally Posted by RoidRage300

no, a bodybuiler needs at least 1 gram per pound of bosy weight, so for me it would be 275g minimum, however i eat more around 350g, i see no need to go over 400g, unless ur carb depleting or a pro

the body need soo much more than the FDA guide line bull****...FDA doent know as much as u think they would...welcome to a new world

ok but you mention a BODYBUILDER...how about if im not? i mean im a 5'8 170lbs, try to keep myself in shape as much as i can. i take college clases early in the morning, then work a full day and work out at night. i play soccer every sunday at a local torunament with a team.

but i eat crap during the week...my work is too consuming and i dont have time for anything, so usually my meals are fast food sht. altho if its a burger i try it to be either fried or grilled chicken....

im not looking to gain weight or mass in big numbers...in fact...im cool with my weight and size i dont want to be bigger...just better...and since i started suplementing myself with protein shakes afterworkout ive gained strengh, some size in muscle and not really weight wich is cool.

so would you (that have more experience and knowledge than me) recomend that my ingestion of protein should be higher than my daily dose of 25grms per shake?

i USED to take Mega Mass 4000 years ago, when i was like 150lbs and trying to gain weight, and the 4 scoops were like 100grms, but i was taking 1 scoop (25gr) in the morning between breakfast and lunch, and then another shake of 1 scoop at night. so a total of 50grms plus of course my regular meals. my gains where pretty nice, nothing crazy but for me it was what i wanted.

im right now taking only 1 shake of 25grms after workout...im not sure if i should go higher...please take in considerations my goals are more to suplement and not to get big gains on size or weight. but i know because of what i eat and all the work i do and stuff during the day, i know i was not getting all the nutrients i needed. hopefully now i do...

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by h_s

ok but you mention a BODYBUILDER...how about if im not? i mean im a 5'8 170lbs, try to keep myself in shape as much as i can. i take college clases early in the morning, then work a full day and work out at night. i play soccer every sunday at a local torunament with a team.

but i eat crap during the week...my work is too consuming and i dont have time for anything, so usually my meals are fast food sht. altho if its a burger i try it to be either fried or grilled chicken....

im not looking to gain weight or mass in big numbers...in fact...im cool with my weight and size i dont want to be bigger...just better...and since i started suplementing myself with protein shakes afterworkout ive gained strengh, some size in muscle and not really weight wich is cool.

so would you (that have more experience and knowledge than me) recomend that my ingestion of protein should be higher than my daily dose of 25grms per shake?

i USED to take Mega Mass 4000 years ago, when i was like 150lbs and trying to gain weight, and the 4 scoops were like 100grms, but i was taking 1 scoop (25gr) in the morning between breakfast and lunch, and then another shake of 1 scoop at night. so a total of 50grms plus of course my regular meals. my gains where pretty nice, nothing crazy but for me it was what i wanted.

im right now taking only 1 shake of 25grms after workout...im not sure if i should go higher...please take in considerations my goals are more to suplement and not to get big gains on size or weight. but i know because of what i eat and all the work i do and stuff during the day, i know i was not getting all the nutrients i needed. hopefully now i do...

u sound like a very active athlete, i would highly recommend a minimum of .8g-1g of protein per pound of bodyweight, thats what i started with before i was bodybuilding, back in my boxing days
25-40g of whey PWO with 40-60g of carbs would prolly do u well

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by lilgio68

your body cant do much more than about 33 g of protein powder.

proof?

some people recommend mass numbers like above 60 g but most of this is just converted into fat

proof?

one of the professional trainers at school said 20 g and my other one said 32 g which is about right.

i go ahead and do about 40 g though

lol, I like how you contradict your above claims.

[bigbadwolf284]

Originally Posted by BIG F@CE

at 4 scoops does anyone *NOT* recommend having 100+ grams of protein in one serving?

read on:Too much protein in the diet can be dangerous. The extra protein contains nitrogen, which is changed in the liver into waste called urea. The kidneys get rid of this nitrogen waste in urine. Too much protein can put stress on the liver and kidneys. When extra urine has to be formed to remove the excess waste, the body can be dehydrated. Too much protein can also make one overweight, as the excess proteins are changed into fats in the liver which is stored in the body.

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

proof?



proof?







lol, I like how you contradict your above claims.

oo dang

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by bigbadwolf284

read on:Too much protein in the diet can be dangerous. The extra protein contains nitrogen, which is changed in the liver into waste called urea. The kidneys get rid of this nitrogen waste in urine. Too much protein can put stress on the liver and kidneys. When extra urine has to be formed to remove the excess waste, the body can be dehydrated. Too much protein can also make one overweight, as the excess proteins are changed into fats in the liver which is stored in the body.

this is why we drink 1-3 gallons of water a day and take vitamins...

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by bigbadwolf284

read on:Too much protein in the diet can be dangerous. The extra protein contains nitrogen, which is changed in the liver into waste called urea. The kidneys get rid of this nitrogen waste in urine. Too much protein can put stress on the liver and kidneys. When extra urine has to be formed to remove the excess waste, the body can be dehydrated. Too much protein can also make one overweight, as the excess proteins are changed into fats in the liver which is stored in the body.

Of course any extra calories your body isnt using will be stored as fat, thats just common sense. It dosnt matter if its from protein, carbs, or fat. Your logic on "too much protein can also make one overweight" is not very a good one. You could make the same statement with carbs, or fat.

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

Of course any extra calories your body isnt using will be stored as fat, thats just common sense. It dosnt matter if its from protein, carbs, or fat. Your logic on "too much protein can also make one overweight" is not very a good one. You could make the same statement with carbs, or fat.

true, of the 3, protein is often the last cause of fat gain...

[bigbadwolf284]

Originally Posted by RoidRage300

this is why we drink 1-3 gallons of water a day and take vitamins...

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/200...runc_sys.shtml

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by bigbadwolf284

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/200...runc_sys.shtml

lol, tell my kidneys that, i wouldnt belive that article for 5 seconds...

taken from article-
Valtin emphasizes that his conclusion is limited to healthy adults in a temperate climate leading a largely sedentary existence -- precisely, he points out, the population and conditions that the "at least" in 8 x 8 refers to. At the same time, he stresses that large intakes of fluid, equal to and greater than 8 x 8, are advisable for the treatment or prevention of some diseases, such as kidney stones, as well as under special circumstances, such as strenuous physical activity, long airplane flights or hot weather.

[SFreppinitbig]

I wouldn't wate you r protein, Considering I'm 185 LBS, I have about 30-35 grams. Usually I'll take a big scoop, mounted on top and then take onother pretty small one. Your body can't digest much more. Take your bodyweight and divide it into 6. Just like food, you can't expect ur going to any gians alogn with fat iif you have a lot n one meal. Same goes for shakes, spread it out throughout the day. 2 scoops is 48 grams, at least ON is. Unless u weigh over 200, 25 is the most ur body will be able to digest at one time.

[10TonBrick]

Originally Posted by SFreppinitbig

I wouldn't wate you r protein, Considering I'm 185 LBS, I have about 30-35 grams. Usually I'll take a big scoop, mounted on top and then take onother pretty small one. Your body can't digest much more. Take your bodyweight and divide it into 6. Just like food, you can't expect ur going to any gians alogn with fat iif you have a lot n one meal. Same goes for shakes, spread it out throughout the day. 2 scoops is 48 grams, at least ON is. Unless u weigh over 200, 25 is the most ur body will be able to digest at one time.

proof?

[redhawk76]

Originally Posted by aamcomcd

I take two scoops post workout and I'm 177 lbs, make sure you have one scoop pre-workout and at least another two-scoop-shake at some other point during the day as well.

Don't make sure you take more through out the day. It is really not an optimal protein source unless MAYBE first thing in the morning, and pre/post workout. Taking it as a meal replacement should only be if it is convenient, you shouldn't try and consume more.

[bigbadwolf284]

QUESTION

How Much Protein Can The Body Digest At One Time?

ANSWER:

There are many who suggest your body can't digest and use more than 30 to 40 grams of protein at a time. I've not seen convincing research on it to say if that's true or not.

Personally, using a common sense approach, I think we need to consider a few things.

1. Think about what state your body is in. If your body needs the protein (like after workout), I think it will use and digest more of it if it's available. Your entire metabolism is accelerated after a workout and protein use in the body shoots up. If protein is just eaten during the day, smaller servings of around 40 grams may well be better.

2. It's better to have more than you need than not enough when you need it. After a workout, I take in about 60 grams of whey protein, simply because, even if my body can't use it all, I'd prefer to have a little bit more than not have enough, which would slow down recovery.

The same can certainly apply during the day. A little extra protein that your body burns up or excretes is not going to have any appreciable negative effects. But, not having protein available when your body needs it can slow and stop muscle growth.

3. Protein doesn't digest all at once, especially with meals. Think about it this way, your stomach doesn't process and send out everything it digests all at once. It works on some, then sends some on its way. This applies more to meals than protein drinks but the fact remains, your body doesn't digest a whole meal all at once. It digest a little at a time. Think of it like time-release vitamin - your body doesn't use the whole all at once but uses it over the course of the entire digestion process.

4. Different people can handle different doses of nutrients other than protein. Does it makes sense that a 250 lb bodybuilder can only digest the same amount of protein as a 110 lb woman at one time? Different metabolic systems require and can handle different dosages.

Bottom line: The limit of 30 to 40 grams of protein at once? It could be right, it could be wrong. Just make sure you're getting plenty if and when your body needs it.

no proof just an article.....

[redhawk76]

Originally Posted by SFreppinitbig

I wouldn't wate you r protein, Considering I'm 185 LBS, I have about 30-35 grams. Usually I'll take a big scoop, mounted on top and then take onother pretty small one. Your body can't digest much more. Take your bodyweight and divide it into 6. Just like food, you can't expect ur going to any gians alogn with fat iif you have a lot n one meal. Same goes for shakes, spread it out throughout the day. 2 scoops is 48 grams, at least ON is. Unless u weigh over 200, 25 is the most ur body will be able to digest at one time.

nonsense