Why does Pizza Hut change $2.50 for delivery and still ask to tip driver?

[wheelz_of_steel]

It's not possible to make under minimum wage legally in America.

If you're paying for gas, it's easily possible to make a net profit under minimum wage if you're technically working on tips.

[Preban_AR15]

Because the driver has payed for gas, so the delivery fee is just there so he can break even. If you consider that to be the tip, then driver's netting like 5 bucks an hour. Think of the delivery driver as a waiter...except he can only serve one customer at a time and has to spend his own money to do it. It's a pretty shytty gig.

It sounds even shyttier now considering the driver doesn't even get to keep all or most of the delivery charge. I'd rather work as a bagger at a grocery store and at least you get minimum wage plus tips.

[ZackMc72]

It sounds even shyttier now considering the driver doesn't even get to keep all or most of the delivery charge. I'd rather work as a bagger at a grocery store and at least you get minimum wage plus tips.

People tip baggers at a grocery store?

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[wheelz_of_steel]

It sounds even shyttier now considering the driver doesn't even get to keep all or most of the delivery charge. I'd rather work as a bagger at a grocery store and at least you get minimum wage plus tips.

Oh definitely. I worked as a delivery driver for a local pizza place for three weeks one summer in college before I realized it was a scam. In 3 weeks of working 60 hour weeks, I made a total of $600 and spent $200 of my own money on gas. I mean...are you shyting me?

[Preban_AR15]

People tip baggers at a grocery store?

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Yea, my first job at 17. I worked at a ghetto store and still would average 1-5 bucks a carryout. Sometimes around xmas time older white ladies would throw a 10 or 20 dollar bill your way. (srs)

[wheelz_of_steel]

Yea, my first job at 17. I worked at a ghetto store and still would average 1-5 bucks a carryout. Sometimes around xmas time older white ladies would throw a 10 or 20 dollar bill your way. (srs)

I also worked as a cashier at Fresh Market a different summer in college, in a rich part of town, and baggers would make a KILLING. One dude made $500 one day during christmas season. Then they enacted a policy where you weren't allowed to tip baggers.

[char1zard]

Oh definitely. I worked as a delivery driver for a local pizza place for three weeks one summer in college before I realized it was a scam. In 3 weeks of working 60 hour weeks, I made a total of $600 and spent $200 of my own money on gas. I mean...are you shyting me?

Gas is the biggest expense but people forget about tires, oil, putting 100 miles a shift on the car. Delivering really is the most demeaning job ever, but turnover is so high it's one of the easiest jobs to get. Luckily I only do it on weekends and drive a Toyota so I make some profit.

[pants222]

I delivered at pizza hut. Pizza Hut keeps half of the delivery charge, and most people don't tip a dime. Because of gas and what not I often did not even make minimum wage, and that's with a car that got 25 miles to the gallon. I worked in a pretty piss poor community, though.

Yes mad, yes don't deliver pies anymore.

[AK911PSU]

I'm working for a local restaurant around school and doing deliveries, i have no base salary and get paid through delivery charges ($2) and tips... feelsbadman when everyone is away for spring break

[Darkdk]

lol americans

[Fight_Club]

Glad I live in England where there is no pressure to tip for stuff like this.

[extracheesy]

what little culture america has is retarded bullsh*t like this

lol americans

[SystemTrend]

I usually tip the driver at least 3 times the amount the pizza cost.

brb Tipping $30 for a $10 pizza LOL

[P51]

The delivery fee is there to pay for the gas that driver himself had to pay for. It should theoretically allow the driver to break even, though when I was a delivery driver back in college, it usually didn't even cover it. The tip is for the driver doing his job so he doesn't make under minimum wage because his salary comes from tips, and even then the pay pales in comparison to a waiter.

Cliffs: OP is a raging *******, and I hope the driver rubs his sweaty ballsack all over the pizza before you eat it, you miserable fuk.

LOL get that **** out of here.

$2.50 per pizza doesn't cover gas?

I knew a pizza delivery kid in HS on average he did 3 deliveries at a time. Thats $7.50 a trip. Lets assume gas is $4.00. That's almost 2 gallons.

2 gallons = 40 miles on an average car
3 stops =/= 40 miles

Assuming you don't make minimum wage, your employer by law has to pay the difference too.

Cliffs
-I shouldn't have to tip you, you *******.

[jcant]

If you're paying for gas, it's easily possible to make a net profit under minimum wage if you're technically working on tips.

Cool, but you said

The tip is for the driver doing his job so he doesn't make under minimum wage because his salary comes from tips, and even then the pay pales in comparison to a waiter.

That's just not true.

[devices]

Throwing in my 2 cents.

I was a GM for a corporate Papa John's for a couple of years. Here's some info:
Before there was a delivery charge the drivers made 60 cents a delivery. PJ now charges $2.00(where I am) and the drivers make 1.39 a delivery...so of that two dollars drivers are only making another 79 cents a delivery. The remaining 1.21 goes to Da Papa.

While I was there Papa decided that driver's would no longer be making minimum wage (7.75/h) but instead 4.25/h. Their thought process was restaurant waiters make 3 bucks an hour and claim their tips then it should be the same for the drivers ("waiters on wheels" bullsh*t). Majority of drivers prior did not claim cash tips, only ones from credit cards. They got away with paying them less than minimum because they were required to claim theirs which normally would equal more than 7.75/h. The only upside (if you would call it that) is the driver didn't make an average of 7.75 an hour then Papa would pay. It was rare that it would happen but if it did it means you weren't making any tips.

Papa does not pay for insurance or maintenance on the driver's car.

A good tip would be more than 3 dollars. Drivers appreciate the 5 spot because they are not making **** otherwise. Also, drivers know who tips well, so the last time when you gave them a 1 dollar, they remember. If you stiff them, they'll remember. If they take more than one delivery on a run who do you think they will go to first? It sure as **** is not the guy that gave him 50 cents last time they delivered there.

I don't work for Papa anymore because of a lot of that corporate bull****. I'll always tip the drivers well.

Cliffs:
If you can't afford to tip, make a ****ing sandwich.

[char1zard]

LOL get that **** out of here.

$2.50 per pizza doesn't cover gas?

I knew a pizza delivery kid in HS on average he did 3 deliveries at a time. Thats $7.50 a trip. Lets assume gas is $4.00. That's almost 2 gallons.

2 gallons = 40 miles on an average car
3 stops =/= 40 miles

Assuming you don't make minimum wage, your employer by law has to pay the difference too.

Cliffs
-I shouldn't have to tip you, you *******.

But they don't get the whole delivery charge dumb****, have you even read this thread?

[A1roller]

The delivery fee is there to pay for the gas that driver himself had to pay for. It should theoretically allow the driver to break even, though when I was a delivery driver back in college, it usually didn't even cover it. The tip is for the driver doing his job so he doesn't make under minimum wage because his salary comes from tips, and even then the pay pales in comparison to a waiter.

Cliffs: OP is a raging *******, and I hope the driver rubs his sweaty ballsack all over the pizza before you eat it, you miserable fuk.

How about you stop being a fuking retard who works a job under minimum wage, or how about you sack up and tell your employer that what he is doing is illegal and he needs to pay you minimum wage and cover your petrol costs fully. You sound like a self entitled spoiled brat beta *******.

[wheelz_of_steel]

LOL get that **** out of here.

$2.50 per pizza doesn't cover gas?

I knew a pizza delivery kid in HS on average he did 3 deliveries at a time. Thats $7.50 a trip. Lets assume gas is $4.00. That's almost 2 gallons.

Ok. That's an interesting anecdote, but I never heard of anyone doing that nor did it myself. One time I did two deliveries at once, and only got one delivery fee.

Assuming you don't make minimum wage, your employer by law has to pay the difference too.

Cliffs
-I shouldn't have to tip you, you *******.

You can make minimum wage but net far less since you're the one paying for gas. Strong reading comprehension.

Lol you are mad as fuark.

[peequi]

Let's start a movement. No more
tipping. Eventually we can get everyone on board.

If the driver wants more money he can get a better job. Don't feel bad for him. Its America, nothing is stopping him.


No Tips Crew

[P51]

But they don't get the whole delivery charge dumb****, have you even read this thread?

Yes they do. Unless they're working for some shady place, my friend use to get it all when he worked for Papa Johns. Who the fuk else would be getting it?

[wheelz_of_steel]

How about you stop being a fuking retard who works a job under minimum wage, or how about you sack up and tell your employer that what he is doing is illegal and he needs to pay you minimum wage and cover your petrol costs fully. You sound like a self entitled spoiled brat beta *******.

Wow strong illiteracy ITT. I'm 27 and in grad school. I worked as a driver for all of 3 weeks in college and quit because of the exact reasons you listed, my god can you even fuking read? And lol at self-entitled, BRB delivery drivers are greedy for hoping to make above minimum wage.

[Rasc170]

Even if 50% of the delivery fee went to the driver, he should be able to still make out even. He's not using a gallon of gas to go to multiple houses all within a reasonable distance from the pizza place

[P51]

Ok. That's an interesting anecdote, but I never heard of anyone doing that nor did it myself. One time I did two deliveries at once, and only got one delivery fee.



You can make minimum wage but net far less since you're the one paying for gas. Strong reading comprehension.

Lol you are mad as fuark.

Are you a herp derp or do you just pretend to be?

Let me examine your claims:

We have 3 people, A, B, C

Each pays $2.50 for a grand total of $7.50 going to Pizza Hut for delivery fees.

You're telling me you only get $2.50 from person A, yet are gonna also deliver to person B and C. That's bull**** and isn't true or wasn't 5 years ago. But lets say it is. Maybe you should take up the compliant with your boss you ******* who is pocketing $5 for "delivery fees"

Your gas should be covered by your delivery fee. If you're not getting my $2.50 because your boss is pocketing it, take it up with him not me.


In fact since I now know my $2.50 isn't even going to anything useful, I'm going to be less inclined to give you a tip because you're working for some shady ass business that is lying about where my money is going.

[char1zard]

Yes they do. Unless they're working for some shady place, my friend use to get it all when he worked for Papa Johns. Who the fuk else would be getting it?

Must be trolling. Drivers get half or less of the delivery charge even at Papa Johns.

[wheelz_of_steel]

Cool, but you said



That's just not true.

This is how it's theoretically supposed to work, but how it pans out varies. If selfish douchebags like many of the posters ITT are your customers, and you're driving relatively long distances, you're not making shyt. If you're covering a smaller radius and your customers tip ok, you do ok. But this is America where everyone is greedy as fuk, so goodluckbro.jpeg.

[jmonty]

I can't believe the tipping etiquette you guys have over in America, I don't think I've ever tipped anyone ever in my life except maybe once at the barber. Not hating, just find it weird

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[S.C]

lol if i ever live in america i will never tip no matter how much i earn.

[P51]

Must be trolling. Drivers get half or less of the delivery charge even at Papa Johns.

Yes they do. Who the fuk else would be getting the delivery fee? Hmmmmmmmmmm? The only reason why they wouldn't give the full amount is because of the post I made awhile back. $2.50 will get you 15 miles.

99.9% of your stops are going to take you less than 15 miles.

[wheelz_of_steel]

Are you a herp derp or do you just pretend to be?

Let me examine your claims:

We have 3 people, A, B, C

Each pays $2.50 for a grand total of $7.50 going to Pizza Hut for delivery fees.

You're telling me you only get $2.50 from person A, yet are gonna also deliver to person B and C. That's bull**** and isn't true or wasn't 5 years ago. But lets say it is. Maybe you should take up the compliant with your boss you ******* who is pocketing $5 for "delivery fees"

Your gas should be covered by your delivery fee. If you're not getting my $2.50 because your boss is pocketing it, take it up with him not me.


In fact since I now know my $2.50 isn't even going to anything useful, I'm going to be less inclined to give you a tip because you're working for some shady ass business that is lying about where my money is going.

It depends on who you're working for. I worked for a smaller chain, which probably was in fact shadier than average. For how somewhere else, like Papa John's works, see one of the above posts. Gas "should" be covered by the delivery fee, doesn't mean it works out that way.

AND ONCE AGAIN, YOU ARE FUKING ILLITERATE. YOU NEGGED ME FOR BEING A 27 YEAR OLD DELIVERY BOY. I WAS A DELIVERY BOY 7 YEARS AGO FOR 3 WEEKS YOU FUKING MORON.