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    No thats a good plan just tryig to help you along. You're alreay strong as fuk I'm just curious where you could go with proper diet
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    No thats a good plan just tryig to help you along. You're alreay strong as fuk I'm just curious where you could go with proper diet
    I certainly can use the help.

    Planning that the next two weeks are just to hit a meal quota, then after that point it will be a week or two focusing just on eliminating bad food. After that I might start trying to count calories again and aim for a specific number. The only issue is I never like that because sometimes my body wants more food or less food plus almost all I eat is homecooked and not something simple like chicken breast and rice that is easy to measure. Its hard to measure the macros in real home cooked meals.

    This week though I will establish a number I am trying to hit on on days and off days. I know that I need to be exactly 230 in June so I am triyng to stay basically the same

    I know based on the calculators I'm modorately active and as of 12 months ago I was 14% bodyfat (hydrostatic weighing)

    Which puts me out at 3500 a day needed.
    (cool thing is that come fall time I can do all the sciency stuff to get a much better # than this)

    275c/250p/150f puts me around there. I wish it was more palatable/economical for me to take the pro and fat up and decrease the carbs a lot because I've noticed that carbs=headaches for me.

    I have headaches jsut about 24/7. A neurologist once told me it was from impact induced epilepsy (somehow a football cuncussion gave me epilepsy but not major enough to give me seizures, I have no ****ing idea). I had noticed that when keto-ing my headaches got much better and sure enough keto is used to treat epilepsy. But every time i go keto my lifts plummet immediately and don't recover
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    Monday 4/2
    Weight- 227.4
    Breakfast- 2 scoops of whey and whole milk
    2 burger patties lettuce wraps and fries (Venture to guess 7oz beef and 10oz potatoes)
    6oz meatloaf and 4oz rice
    Spaghetti minus the noodles probably about 10oz but its not 100% meat lots of veggies with a few tortilla chips
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    Tuesday 4/3
    Weight- 227.6
    Breakfast- Shake and 2 bowls of cereal
    Meat loaf with 0 rice and a big salad
    Home made buffalo wings (0 carb and good fat)
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    ..if you can't eat wheat, should it bother you?
    Love life and live healthy. Let's not complicate things.
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    Homemade wings ftw!
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    Originally Posted by jared767 View Post
    ..if you can't eat wheat, should it bother you?
    Don't understand. Eating wheat gives me mood swings and headaches. No stomach issues. Some people think that gladian (a protein, I think its a part of gluten I dunno) gives people neurological issues. Sometimes on very special occasions I'll eat wheat and just suck up the consequences. Wedding cake or something like that
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    Homemade wings ftw!
    They're so good. I never want to go out for wings again
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    Wednesday 4/4
    Weight- 229.6
    Morning- Xtend+caffeine for some cardio
    The straps at this gym's rower can't hold me in so it was a frustrating dy
    Did some fasting (not because I weighed in heavier than I wanted but because I just like to do it once a month or so)
    Chicken wings, spaghetti, no-flour cookies, tortilla chips, 2 oranges, milk with nesquik

    Tomorrow I'm back to real lifting (well, real lifts still not real weights) for the first time in 2 weeks so thats exciting
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    Thursday 4/6
    225.9
    Scivation mass gainer in 2 cups of whole milk
    Finished the meat loaf I had (1/2 of a serving probably) in rice
    Finished the spaghetti I had (1.25 servings probably)
    Steak with mashed potatoes (half white half sweet just for fun) and a big salad
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    Friday 4/6
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    Whey shake and a banana
    Macadamia nuts
    Gluten free frozen pizza (1600 cal.... more balanced calorically than one would guess but a little low on protein)
    Steak big salad and mashed potatoes

    Starting tomorrow going back on creatine and beta-alanine. Monday after next will be the next step in this diet plan
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    I think if you can stay consistent with your protein intake it will help a ton.
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    I think if you can stay consistent with your protein intake it will help a ton.
    Completely agree with this
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    I think if you can stay consistent with your protein intake it will help a ton.
    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    Completely agree with this
    I agree too guys, do you think this breakdown is reasonable?:
    275c/250p/150f
    Explained up the page a little that too many carbs gives me bad headaches. Actually keto made my headaches go away for the first time in my life but my strength went down too much to justify it
    4/16 I'm gonna start tracking

    Saturday 4/7
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    Saturday's are going to always be my day off of trying to do anything other than eat 'enough.' I don't really care about the taste of what I eat/monotany but I have a lot of girlfriend's family obligations I have to deal with which is nice but does get in the way of eating right

    Steak with fried rice and veggies
    8oz steak or so, 10oz rice or so

    Big Thai dinner. Drunken noodle (chow fun+basil basically) Thai fried rice, roast duck, chicken satay, uhh..... some weird baked flounder with wild rice (which kinda sucks?)

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    As far as macros go it will take some playing with to see what fit you beat. Personally I like higher fat and lower carb. Erick will be the opposite
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    Originally Posted by psychodiver9 View Post
    As far as macros go it will take some playing with to see what fit you beat. Personally I like higher fat and lower carb. Erick will be the opposite
    I see man.

    Sunday 4/8
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    Scivation mass gainer in whole milk+creatine+beta
    Leftover Thai food rice noodles chicken and rice
    Chip steak and almonds and salad
    Another family obligation meal big Chinese dinner with GF's family. Peking duck lamb pork shrimp rice walnuts cucumber Chinese broccoli
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    Monday 4/9
    228.8 (a little too heavy)
    Whey milk and blueberries
    Duck with home made fried rice (rice, virgin coconut oil, bragg's liquid aminos)
    Steak with home made fried rice
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    Tuesday 4/10
    228.7
    Cereal
    Fried rice with chip steak
    Whey shake with the fried leftovers of my sweet/white mashed potatoes
    Fried chicken (battered in corn chex... not a big fan nutritionally compared to my almond flour but did taste good) with mashed potatoes and salad and broccoli
    About 5 cups of whole milk
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    The last few days because I was getting ready for a meet I just tried to eat as low-stress as I could and eat whatever I felt like while making sure i kept my weight up.

    New Plan
    Short Term Training-
    From now until the week of May 7 will be high volume low intensity work mostly for technique. Will also be doing a lot of bodybuilding assistance mostly trying to work on triceps strength and improving balance in my lower body/core i.e posterior chain work.
    I will also be doing metabolic conditioning in an effort to die less soon in the form of the slam ball and the rower. Rower will be done after every workout for 750 meters timed and slam ball whenever I feel like it hopefully after every workout.
    Long Term Training-
    As I have noticed in my training logs I do very well when I go very heavy for low volume for short bursts at a time. Because of that I have been toying around with the idea of doing some training blocks that are:
    Weeks 1-3- Very high volume very low intensity (75+ reps a week squat and bench 30+ reps deadlift all at 60%)
    Weeks 4-6- Rep maxes with little back off work involved. 3x2rm squat and bench on Monday, not much Wednesday, 3x2rm Dead and bench on Friday ect.
    Eating-
    Going to give carb backloading a shot. Off days will be a (c/p/f) split of 50/250/150 and on days will be a split of 250/250/150 with all but at most 50 of those carbs coming post workout. It seems that carb backloading is getting popular among strength athletes so I figured I’ll give it a shot. This will be ****ed over pretty fast due to family obligations and I will be going to Georgia at some point in the near future but I'll have to pick right back up no lapses
    Weight-
    I’m 233 right now, will go back down to 218 or so because I was stronger there. Plus I look like ****.
    Equipment-
    I won’t be using any for the near future. I don’t deserve to and there’s no point unless it’s going to accomplish something. When I do go back to it I will do it right with a Super Katana and a deadlift suit. Given the fit of my SC I think I will be fine using it at 220 but will be better off after a slow and reasonable bulk back up to 230 or so
    Competition-
    Won’t be doing junior nationals. Best I could really hope for is like 700/475/575 and that’s not winning **** given squat is by far my best lift and there are junior 105’s squatting 800. I’m not in it solely for the trophies but I can’t justify driving all the way to Florida to do a meet I know I won’t be competitive in.
    Monitoring of State-
    Inspired my Mike T’s TRAC and combined with my cheap/laziness I am going to continue monitoring 3 things daily. Resting HR right when I wake up, morning weight, and workout quality. Hopefully doing this I can start seeing patterns between my weight, resting HR, and workout quality. Doing this I can modify a day’s workout based on HR and weight.
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    Monday 4/16
    227.6
    Macadamia nuts, cheese, and peanut butter
    -Training-
    Banana
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    Rice noodles Singapore style
    Leftover muffin from my meet that needed to be eaten
    Drumsticks and mashed potatoes
    Whey in milk

    Measured everything very precisely (except the Singapore noodles, had to eyeball them) ended up at 275/200/150. I think I'll need to up the carbs to 300 if I want to get upto 250g pro without just drinking a hundred shakes a day.
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    Nice start totes king. Adjusting is part of the game
    Yeah man, I'm just gonna try to find a balance that I can actually live with in the long term. I like to cook and eat fun foods that aren't very easy to measure.

    Tuesday 4/17
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    Macadamia nuts 1oz
    Cheese
    Chili 10oz
    Mashed potatoes
    Milk 5 cups total
    3 66/33 burgers (2lbs of 85% ground beef, 1lbs bacon mixed together) with home made (olive oil) mayo
    Cereal in milk
    Grapes

    172c/165p/169f

    Should've had a whey shake to up the pro a little bit
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    229.0
    6oz Almond flour breaded chicken nuggets
    1 oz cheese and macadamias
    Home made olive oil mayo to dip in
    15g of MCT oil
    -train-
    15g of dextrose
    2 cups of milk, 2 scoops of whey
    2 more cups of milk
    Leftover mashed potatoes
    13oz chili
    Chipotle burrito bol
    181c/240p/144f
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    Thursday 4/19
    230 even
    2 cups of milk, 2 scoops of whey
    3 Homemade cheeseburgers (2lbs 85% beef, 1lbs bacon) with 1.5oz cheese and home made mayo
    2 more cups milk
    Home made almond flour chicken nuggets
    The last of my chili
    2 more milk
    2 more whey
    156c/282p/121f

    Might have 2 more cups of milk before bed
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    You should start taking pics of your food. Those burgers sound good
    Will do man, the burgers taste great but they don't look like anything special. We just put bacon in a blender and then mixed it in with the beef, looks like beef

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    3 eggs, 4 strips bacon, and rolls made out of only eggs and cream cheese *don't ask me how*
    1 table spoon MCT oil
    -training-
    15g gatorade powder
    2 cups of milk, chicken breaded in chex mix, 2 more cups of milk, fancy buttermilk ranch, 2 more cups of milk
    Japanese Hibachi dinner a little rice heavy I'd guess 10oz rice and 6oz steak
    Some ice cream
    206c/201p/156f


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    Saturday 4/21
    EC'ed in the morning with some BCAA's
    3 burgers home made mayo cheese and 2oz macadamia nuts
    An orange
    Cheese
    like 7 cups of milk total
    Half a gluten free pizza 66c/38p/60f
    Scivation mass gainer
    205c/181p/210f

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    Sunday 4/22
    Fasted 8-2
    Taiwanese lunch
    Lamb with cilantro, beef short rib, fish, lots of veggies, Taiwanese rice... not quite as good as Thai Jasmine but different and very good. Mushrooms and random sushi
    Roasted chicken mashed potatoes roasted broccoli
    Bowl of cereal

    Couldn't really track today. Have no idea how much meat/rice I ate. The home cooked meal was with my GF's family and I think measuring their food would have been insulting to them also
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    Outside of 1 scoop of whey and 15g of dextrose for training I fasted until 4 then ate this:
    Ended up around 232/200/148 3060 calories. I kinda forget what some of the stuff was, I write down the measured macros but don't write down what I actually ate
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    Tuesday 4/24
    229.8
    Cereal and 3 cups of milk. Dumb idea
    Big meal of fried rice macadamia nuts cheese and tons of milk and a banana
    double lettuce wrap cheeseburger and fries
    Some frozen yogurt
    2 scoops of whey in milk
    300/241/241 4333

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    Wednesday 4/25
    Weight 231.8 Heaviest I have ever been
    2 scoops of whey in water
    -training-
    15g dextrose with some bcaas
    8oz ground beef 1oz cheese 1oz sour cream 2oz pinto beans 3 cups milk and some lettuce
    3 cups milk 1 serving weight gainer 1 scoop whey 2 table spoons macadamia nut oil
    140ish/210/98 2250 or so. I have the number written down in the kitchen but I have a Firefox ad-on that only lets me be on bodybuilding.com for 45 min a day and I have 20 seconds left.
    Was a lazy day but I got caught up dealing with other stuff.

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