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    when is the best time to take fat burners?

    Just got myself some free fat burners (usn cut i think) but not sure if taking em atm will do much though.

    Im still at a high bf % and i've heard mixed opinions about taking them. Im a fan of diet and cardio but im wondering if fat burners are something to add to my weight loss arsenal.

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    take them when youre under 10% bf, wont help much if youre high
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    Originally Posted by pinoykcin View Post
    take them when youre under 10% bf, wont help much if youre high
    Ummm actually they never work, they are expensive placebos

    The placebo effect can help but that's it
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Ummm actually they never work, they are expensive placebos

    The placebo effect can help but that's it
    Thats what i've heard before, there are alot of views arguing there usefulness
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    Just finished a cycle of Animal Cuts. 3 weeks on. They did nothing. Srs. The only thing I noticed was that I had a slight case of diarrhea for 3 weeks. Oh yeah, and they made me feel like **** at times.

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    Yohimbine works, but only on stubborn fat at lower BF% and even then it's questionable. EC stack works. Even so best results for an obese person would be to lose 5-10 extra pounds in a full year's use.

    Not sure it would be worth the money for that.
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    They more or less help with energy levels on a calorie deficit and can help suppress hunger.
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    Some can work I would imagine. A lot of fat burners contain green tea extract which is pretty well know for fat oxidation. But nothing is going to magically drop any fat.

    If you have any history of heart problems or sensitivity to caffeine stay away from them. They'll make you palpitate like crazy.
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    Originally Posted by harpy20 View Post
    They more or less help with energy levels on a calorie deficit and can help suppress hunger.
    This. None of them will burn cals for you.
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    This. None of them will burn cals for you.
    Not true. Caffeine, Yohimbe, ephedrine...ect all actually do make you burn more calories. How many and at what cost is a whole different thing.
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    Originally Posted by AndyLegacy View Post
    Just got myself some free fat burners (usn cut i think) but not sure if taking em atm will do much though.

    Im still at a high bf % and i've heard mixed opinions about taking them. Im a fan of diet and cardio but im wondering if fat burners are something to add to my weight loss arsenal.

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    So i guess the general feeling is that they are a waste of time?

    Looks like im gonna chuck that free bottle right in the bin then!

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    Originally Posted by AndyLegacy View Post
    So i guess the general feeling is that they are a waste of time?

    Looks like im gonna chuck that free bottle right in the bin then!

    Many thanks!
    If you got it for free it might be worth trying. If nothing else they will give you more energy.
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    Originally Posted by MCrow View Post
    Not true. Caffeine, Yohimbe, ephedrine...ect all actually do make you burn more calories. How many and at what cost is a whole different thing.
    So those stims actually raise bmr?
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    So those stims actually raise bmr?
    ephedrine w/ caffeine does yes. Yohimbine HCL can help mobilize fat stores when lean (under 12%)
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    Originally Posted by jon1995 View Post
    ephedrine w/ caffeine does yes. Yohimbine HCL can help mobilize fat stores when lean (under 12%)
    Got any pub meds on this? Are the increases in bmr of any significance? I just started an ec stack, so I should probably know this stuff. XD Any replies are appreciated. I'm not trying to be a d*** by asking for a paper.
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Ummm actually they never work, they are expensive placebos

    The placebo effect can help but that's it
    Never underestimate the mighty power of placebo dude


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    EC works well. I dont think you can argue with that
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    Originally Posted by joen270 View Post
    EC works well. I dont think you can argue with that
    If this is addressed at me, I'm not arguing. I'm just trying to understand how it actually works. Up until now, I thought it only suppressed appetite and boosted energy (which is why I started a stack). But, if it also raises bmr, that is like a 'two birds with one stone' kind of deal.
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    Originally Posted by pinoykcin View Post
    take them when youre under 10% bf, wont help much if youre high
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    Originally Posted by cnh57811 View Post
    Got any pub meds on this? Are the increases in bmr of any significance? I just started an ec stack, so I should probably know this stuff. XD Any replies are appreciated. I'm not trying to be a d*** by asking for a paper.
    Lyle McDonald has a whole section about yohimbine in ud2.0 and it's one of his stubborn fat loss protocols

    Ec is commonly known to increase bmr although by only 2-5% if that but it surpresses appetite
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    i would only take them at around 14% or below to help with the last bit of fat and it worked unbelievably well

    took hydroxycut pro and it actually worked
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    Originally Posted by jon1995 View Post
    Lyle McDonald has a whole section about yohimbine in ud2.0 and it's one of his stubborn fat loss protocols

    Ec is commonly known to increase bmr although by only 2-5% if that but it surpresses appetite
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