During my anorexic recovery, I gained muscle like crazy with almost no fat gains. Since I am at a normal weight now, I have changed my rate of weight gain to 0.5lb/week since a month.
Well, today is a very sad and depressing day for me. I got my body fat checked today (using Bioelectrical impedance). And the result was dissapointing, in a month, I gained 1kg of pure fat and NO muscle, my muscle mass stayed the same. I went from 12.1% to 13.9%. I was eating 2650 calories/ day and gaining .5lb/week during this month. My protein/carbs/fat was adaquate. I was adding weight (or reps) everyday to my exercises.
From Dec-Feb, I was on maintenance calories and I gained 500g of muscle and lost 0.2kg of fat.
Unsuccessful bulk is unsuccessful . PLEASE HELP NUT MISC!
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03-10-2012, 08:36 PM #1
Unable to gain a gram of muscle (SRS)
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Bioelectric impedence devices are highly unreliable. It's better if you monitor your strength gains and let that be one of your markers of how well you are doing with your bulk.
Besides this I would slow your bulk down a little bit unless it slows your lifts down. Others will disagree with this but it might help to extend your bulk and psychologically deal with the inevitable fat gains. However, you have to go by how you feel. If your making amazing progress in the gym then by all means keep doing what your doing. On one hand your at a great age to make fast gains but on the other you have a smaller frame. 2 cents.
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03-10-2012, 09:13 PM #10
During the last 30 days, the average are: 380g carbs / 141g protein / 61g fat /
Additional:
24 g sat fat / 8,500 UI Vit A / 300mg Vit C / 2170 mg calcium / 30mg iron / 5000mg Potassium
I was doing Starting Strength for about 2 months. This month I am on Lyle mcdonald Generic Bulking Routine. I've not got my test levels checked out (i suspect that maybe the case as you can see my height- growth is also slow).
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I feel I should cut now, 14% BF don't feel right, I want to start cutting. What do you think about it ?Last edited by fitnessfreak6; 03-10-2012 at 09:19 PM.
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03-10-2012, 09:26 PM #11
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Go back on starting strength or strong lifts. That upper/lower Lyle has will put size on you more slowly than either of those.... and continue to eat in a surplus. You are an extremely underweight kid recovering from an ED, you really need to be putting muscle on as rapidly as humanly possible and you are simply not going to do that on a routine that doesn't have you hammering each body part at a higher frequency. Effeciency takes priority over preference/fun when it comes to a medical need to put on size.
Do not start cutting now. You will end up killing yourself or causing lifelong health problems like a female friend of mine had after being bulimic as a teen for years to make her wrestling weight class. She had problems digesting a lot of foods years later to do damage to her GI tract so would get intense stomach cramps and other problems from eating foods with too much fiber or fat... it messed up her hormone levels so she had two periods a month even 4 years later, with abnormally high amounts of cramping etc.
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03-10-2012, 09:30 PM #12
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03-10-2012, 09:35 PM #13
You are 16, and 94lbs....and you think you need to cut? I think it's time to go see a psychiatrist instead.
Go get your blood work, could be an actual deficiency (though my two maternal uncles were 5'4ish graduating high school and are now 6'2'') but just eat and train.www.xccellence.com
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03-10-2012, 09:37 PM #14
I need to work half of my body differently as I have a condition 'hemi-hypertrophy' in which half of the body is abnormally big and the other half is normal or weak. So, my right leg, hand, abs are insanely big and strong.
The biggest difference is in my legs, so, I only exercise my left leg. If I'll do SS, that'll not be possible (if I even do split squat instead of squat, my right side will favor my left side). This is one of the reason I stopped doing SS.
Lyle also addressed this (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/tra...alance-qa.html) He suggests isolation exercises to correct large strength imbalances.
About your female friend- I think like her, I've already messed up with my test and other hormones and even stunted my height because of eating 200-800 calories/day with no protein for about 8 months. I know a few posters on this forum who claim that they've stunted their height because of anorexia. It's sad...Last edited by fitnessfreak6; 03-10-2012 at 09:44 PM.
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03-10-2012, 09:53 PM #21
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Well in all honesty if he doesn't take our advices and backslides they'll just put him in a straight jacket for his tube feeding and get him up to 140 in no time anyway but it will be far more fat than muscle if they do it that way over our way. His loss. I'm done blowing sunshine up his ass with giving training advices he doesn't want.
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03-10-2012, 09:59 PM #23Founder of MMDELAD
"Micros Matter Dont Eat Like A Dumba**" (hydrogenated oils, shortening, mono and di-glycerides don't fit in my macros)
Does Not Count Macros Crew
"Think in terms of limits and the result is limitation
Think in terms of progress and the result is progression"
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Training Philosophy to be strong: 1. Pick Weights up off the ground 2. Squat them 3. Push them over your head
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03-10-2012, 10:11 PM #24Founder of MMDELAD
"Micros Matter Dont Eat Like A Dumba**" (hydrogenated oils, shortening, mono and di-glycerides don't fit in my macros)
Does Not Count Macros Crew
"Think in terms of limits and the result is limitation
Think in terms of progress and the result is progression"
my day:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156294333
Training Philosophy to be strong: 1. Pick Weights up off the ground 2. Squat them 3. Push them over your head
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03-10-2012, 10:14 PM #25
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Right.
Either way he'll be put up to a healthy weight if he backslides so his health/survival are not our concern. We gave him the advice he needs, if he refuses to take it, make excuses or tries to cut anyway... well he will be in for some fun times. It builds character.
The fact that he counts calories and macros at all right now tells me this is unavoidable anyway. He needs to be training hard and forcefeeding himself pizza and not tracking calories and macros, so that he gets a very large caloric surplus. Being so underweight, on a proper training program he will gain almost no bodyfat even on a massive surplus of junk food.
Him reading the stickies is a bad idea psychologically at this point with his mental state.
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03-10-2012, 10:15 PM #26
OP, you should keep bulking for a few more months then eat at maintenance if you don't want to gain more weight. It's not advisable for young people to go on diets. Focus on getting your micronutrients and lift heavy. You might be able to reverse some of the damage you've done to yourself. Wait until your 18 to start cutting.
It's true. Since OP is still a child he is borderline underweight/healthy weight but he should put on some more weight to more in the healthy range.
Lyle makes a good case for not using barbell work when the strength differences between the two sides are considerable. OP might be able to do more dumbbell work. It's going to be tough to design a good program IMO.
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03-10-2012, 10:20 PM #27
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In the case of this individual, I respectfully disagree.... this isn't a prospecting NPC competetor who needs to balance his left and right pec... it is a medically underweight ED suffering who needs to gain large amounts of muscle weight to be healthy. He needs as much full body growth stimulation as he can get, regardless of muscle unilateral muscle imbalances in his current medical condition. He can create further balance by doing the back half of his volume with unilateral machine work. He needs heavy barbell compounds to stimulate overall body growth... for the systemic response.
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03-10-2012, 10:21 PM #28
Truth....but as with a lot of people with ED's he thinks he's special and different and understands more than all of us.....
Sorry if we sound like we're bashing OP but from our perspective (especially those of us who have been through what you're dealing with) you seem silly and ridiculous....www.xccellence.com
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03-10-2012, 10:22 PM #29Founder of MMDELAD
"Micros Matter Dont Eat Like A Dumba**" (hydrogenated oils, shortening, mono and di-glycerides don't fit in my macros)
Does Not Count Macros Crew
"Think in terms of limits and the result is limitation
Think in terms of progress and the result is progression"
my day:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=156294333
Training Philosophy to be strong: 1. Pick Weights up off the ground 2. Squat them 3. Push them over your head
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03-10-2012, 10:28 PM #30
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