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    Do you work your clients until they puke or is that going too far

    I was talking with another trainer at my gym who said she would. They would puke and they would get back at it. I overheard a training session at another gym where the trainer was telling her client to let her know when she needed to puke so that they could get back to it. And the other day at my gym our main trainer was with his obese client at the treadmills, going at a high incline at a high speed, and suddenly the client started making dry heaving noises. I don't know if he puked but i didn't look. They didn't stop. He went at it same pace, same speed.

    You're supposed to stop when they start to feel dizzy but doesn't that go hand in hand with nausea and vomiting?
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    Its all about knowing your audience. Some people want to be beasted, some dont. Some need it, some don't. Some respond well to it, some don't. Aiming to make someone puke is a strange goal, and pretty unproductive to good training IMHO.
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    Is it reason enough to stop the workout, or slow it down? Or for the most part, are they just fine getting back to the workout? Does the sick state they are in affect the outcome of the exercise?
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    You'll know at the time, whether you need to call the whole session off or whether to just work around it. If in doubt, end the session.
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    Holy faaaurrrrk that betch dont know chit about personal training!!!

    Like joe defranco said a workout has to have a purpose! not every type of training has to make you puke, some work outs you go to failure and some workouts your suppose to push just enough before you hit failure!

    Some days you work on technique, some days are long distance high reps, some days are sprinting and finishing workouts as quick as possible!
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    It isn't that they make a goal out of puking. They just don't view it as enough means to stop. I'm wondering if it's smart to continue on.
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    I personally wouldnt wouldnt have them continue, but then I also wouldnt take the average trainer to that level of exertion. Its just not needed. If I got them to that point then I would consider it a mistake on my part.
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    That's just stupid. A trainer should know you don't need to train until you are puking to see results from your work outs. Sounds like a trainer with a lack of skill in programming and needs to say "look how hard we worked out" to validate their service.
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    Originally Posted by jimmyk21 View Post
    That's just stupid. A trainer should know you don't need to train until you are puking to see results from your work outs. Sounds like a trainer with a lack of skill in programming and needs to say "look how hard we worked out" to validate their service.
    You talking about me? I've only made one client sick and I felt bad/embarrased about it. I would never aim to make a client sick especially knowing I hate when people puke around me. If they tell me they feel nauseous, I sit them down immediately.

    These others, as I was saying aren't making it a goal. It's only a slight inconvenience in their eyes that they just get past and continue. I've never met a trainer who made it a goal to get a client sick or passed out. I'm not asking to do that. come on now
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    If the notion of working so hard that you puke is foreign to you, then I don't want you as a client.
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    The majority of people at bootcamp did not puke. A few did but the majority didnt. I think if most can get through real bootcamp without puking then there shouldnt a reason to push someone who works at an office so hard they are puking. Your friend is watching too much of "the biggest looser"
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    Originally Posted by kristinpete38 View Post
    You talking about me? I've only made one client sick and I felt bad/embarrased about it. I would never aim to make a client sick especially knowing I hate when people puke around me. If they tell me they feel nauseous, I sit them down immediately.

    These others, as I was saying aren't making it a goal. It's only a slight inconvenience in their eyes that they just get past and continue. I've never met a trainer who made it a goal to get a client sick or passed out. I'm not asking to do that. come on now
    How would you think I'm referring to you? This is your first post in this thread.
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    The average client does not want to puke or get sick. You can get the results they want without doing this. Sure the odd time it may happen but you should be able to guage back and tone it down a bit. Most people push beginners way to hard and it is totally unnecessary they will not progress any faster by pushing them hard. Start off slow and build up accordingly. Untrained people cannot tolerate exercise well at all but this does change rapidly with proper programming.
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    I have had several clients who have gotten light headed or nausiated. I have NEVER pushed them past this point. If someone is dizzy... you sit them or lay them down and elevate their feet, wtf are u guys thinking that this somehow makes them stronger? This is how clients get hurt or drop because they think you dont care about their well being.

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    Originally Posted by Quistfitness View Post
    Why push a client past the point that they are comfertable going?
    Because doing what's comfortable for them is what got them to need a trainer in the first place.
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    They can be uncomfortable without actually puking. Doing that one extra pushup, putting another 1.25kg on each side of the bar, running that extra 100m, these will all be uncomfortable, but given proper rest and nutrition, they are unlikely to produce nausea and vomiting.

    Between wuss and annoying meathead there is a sensible middle ground.
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    Originally Posted by YoBigFatMomma View Post
    Because doing what's comfortable for them is what got them to need a trainer in the first place.
    Thanks for sharing your input for this side. I always need some input from both sides of the issue
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    Think of every time you puked in your life. Did it lead to anything beneficial? This should answer your question.
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    Originally Posted by YoBigFatMomma View Post
    Because doing what's comfortable for them is what got them to need a trainer in the first place.
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    If the notion of working so hard that you puke is foreign to you, then I don't want you as a client.
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    I workout till I'm near puking this usually happens 2-3 times a week legs/lower back and chest/upper back days the main reason I don't puke is because I'm tossing 5-10gs of Sodium Bicarbonate into my body to help alkalyze my body and keep it at a more stable state when so much lactic acid is being produced. For instance after a few sets of deads I'm ready to vomit so I take a min or 2 walk grab some water and take some of my workout shake then mentally prepare myself for the next set and go. Glutamine was made for people like me and YoBigFatMomma.
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    Originally Posted by ProtienandIron View Post
    Its all about knowing your audience. Some people want to be beasted, some dont. Some need it, some don't. Some respond well to it, some don't. Aiming to make someone puke is a strange goal, and pretty unproductive to good training IMHO.
    Words of wisdom. All clients are different, some like intensity to that point, but that point isn't something to achieve in any training session no matter what your doing. Advise on eating less or not as close to the session and watch water intake and sufficient rest intevals based on your client. This is why its PERSONAL training.
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    wow
    if you are pushing your clients to the point they are puking you are doing something wrong...
    Not only is this unhealthy but this will develop a hatred for working out in general ( i know i would hate to workout if i puked every time i tried)
    No need to go for the extremes, they can still work hard without having to puke..

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    feeling nauseaus or light headed during a workout is pretty normal for someone serious about it but puking is not... i dont know how you find this acceptable...
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    You shouldn't make your goal to make the client puke, but If it happens, it happens. It's a common thing and in a lot of cases, not always easy to avoid. Always work the client hard, but realize that the client is constantly puking, that something should be changed. It's not healthy, obviously. If the clients goal is to gain muscle mass, also realize that puking is extremely catabolic, and will most likely hamper these goals.
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    Know the client

    I've had clients that feel like they're going to puke 10 minutes into a warm up, so no, we're not going to end the session in that situation. I'll let them compose themselves, get a drink, then move on at whatever pace we need to to keep them moving without getting sick. I've also noticed that when we start getting into deep leg or core workouts that the sick feeling can be intensified. Again, we will adjust to whatever level we need to be at to continue working, without getting sick.

    Ive never had someone throw up, I'm pretty good at taking them to the edge, then pulling it back

    Bottom line is, know your client, and if you're an experienced trainer when it comes to relating with people, you'll know when to back off.
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    Originally Posted by DFDA15 View Post
    This and


    This.

    I workout till I'm near puking this usually happens 2-3 times a week legs/lower back and chest/upper back days the main reason I don't puke is because I'm tossing 5-10gs of Sodium Bicarbonate into my body to help alkalyze my body and keep it at a more stable state when so much lactic acid is being produced. For instance after a few sets of deads I'm ready to vomit so I take a min or 2 walk grab some water and take some of my workout shake then mentally prepare myself for the next set and go. Glutamine was made for people like me and YoBigFatMomma.
    People like you two don't hire trainers. While some would say "wow, that's hardcore...yay for you" I personally think it's idiotic.

    You can make someone uncomfortable without making them puke. If you can't then you're a pretty crappy trainer.
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    I can't think of a single benefit to the client in them puking, so I see no good reason to intentionally push a client to the point of vomiting. If they're starting to feel dizzy or nauseus, it's time to back off.
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    Originally Posted by DFDA15 View Post
    I workout till I'm near puking this usually happens 2-3 times a week legs/lower back and chest/upper back days the main reason I don't puke is because I'm tossing 5-10gs of Sodium Bicarbonate into my body to help alkalyze my body and keep it at a more stable state when so much lactic acid is being produced. For instance after a few sets of deads I'm ready to vomit so I take a min or 2 walk grab some water and take some of my workout shake then mentally prepare myself for the next set and go. Glutamine was made for people like me and YoBigFatMomma.
    You're 6'2 156 lbs..... maybe you should try something different.
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