Over the past year, many of you have tried Fierce. It has become one of the most loved preworkouts, with some of the most uniformly outstanding feedback on the board. But SAN is not content to rest on its laurels, and is considering a reformulation. We would like to hear YOUR feedback on what you would add, or remove, from Fierce. Here is the current ingredient list:
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03-08-2012, 01:31 AM #1Rustlin' and hustlin'
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Fierce reformulation: SAN wants to hear YOUR opinion!
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03-08-2012, 01:37 AM #2Stage Bound
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First, saving spot for suggestions..
Love the Fierce I have now, this will be interesting!
Edit:
Hmm..
L-Norvaline
ALCAR/PLCAR
LCLT
just listing off possible suggestions, will edit with more if I think of themLast edited by BigBoLuke93; 03-08-2012 at 03:18 AM.
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03-08-2012, 02:04 AM #3MANwhore
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I know you're not a huge fan Poison but I think instead of AAKG 1000mg of agmatine could get interesting
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03-08-2012, 02:13 AM #4Rustlin' and hustlin'
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1gr is overkill.
But great idea, this is what we want to see, keep it coming!
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03-08-2012, 02:43 AM #5Registered User
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Like above poster replace arginine with agmatine atleast 750mg, and a good dose of citrulline, 1:1 citrulline malate, or GPLC
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03-08-2012, 03:14 AM #6Registered User
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I'd say swap arginine for agmatine, and then toss in some ginkgo biloba as a vasodilator -I'm pretty sure it's been proven effective for this use. I actually added a ginkgo biloba pill to Fierce when taking it once, and the effects were super.
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03-08-2012, 03:39 AM #7
Citruline, L-norvaline, agmatine, beet roots, L-leucine, arachadonic acid, TMG, choline, LCLT, n acteyl l tyrosine, grapeseed, electrolytes, Dbol.
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03-08-2012, 03:41 AM #8Registered User
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I have heard many good things about Fierce still havent tried it, is it possible to get a sample of it down here in Australia?
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03-08-2012, 03:50 AM #9Registered User
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drop NAG for Alcar
Drop nitro no complex replace with citrulline malateKush & OJ
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03-08-2012, 03:53 AM #10Rustlin' and hustlin'
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Beet Root - we use Creatine Nitrate. Beet root would be like adding a shot of espresso to your daily serving of speed.Originally Posted by ShogunRua
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03-08-2012, 04:20 AM #11Muscle Man Manuel
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Some very interesting responses so far and from what I hear, there may be some important eyes watching this thread!
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03-08-2012, 04:30 AM #12Registered User
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Love to help but never tried fierce
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03-08-2012, 04:44 AM #13Eh?
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Awesome news!
Add some huperzine A and a choline source?Last edited by ChrisG12; 03-08-2012 at 04:52 AM.
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03-08-2012, 04:55 AM #14Shillin'
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Agmatine and CitMal. Add in some CAR (ALCAR/PLCAR/LCLT).
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03-08-2012, 05:39 AM #15
This isn't even the right area for it but I already have this thread open. I got a SAN Launch sample at the Arnold and I just stacked it with 2 scoops glycoject pre-workout:
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03-08-2012, 06:17 AM #16Registered User
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agmatine and citrulline malate
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03-08-2012, 06:25 AM #17Registered User
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add a hefty dose of beta alanine/CM
how much caffeine is in the original version?
good responses in this thread
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03-08-2012, 06:30 AM #18Eh?
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200mg I believe.Originally Posted by reverse79
Definitely down for the addition of citrulline, although I can't say the same for beta alanine.
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03-08-2012, 06:36 AM #19cutting for summer
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this. but more like 500mg IMOOriginally Posted by mtpaquette
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03-08-2012, 06:37 AM #20Eh?
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Agreed, in a PWO I think 500-750 is ideal.Originally Posted by kenny878
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03-08-2012, 06:42 AM #21Registered User
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add hemavol to feirce.. break the mold. / thread.
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03-08-2012, 06:43 AM #22Too Sweet to be Sour!
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I still have the bottle (empty) I run 2 months ago, and it was a great experience, because Fierce gave me the endurance, stamina and strength to perform both, my cardio and lifting sessions. Now I would add maybe more Nitric Oxidations precursors to make the blood rush effect in less time a little bit more stronger. Also less creatine.
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03-08-2012, 06:46 AM #23Be-The-Hemoth
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I'd say energy/ focus blend... maybe some nootropics
While you're at it... a better taste.... not a must though
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03-08-2012, 07:24 AM #24I'm your huckleberry.
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I wouldn't want the pump to be TOO much higher. It starts to impede ROM. So, I would go with just 500mg of agmatine in place of the aakg/ornithine. The main additions I'd like to see would be nootropic related (nothing specific in mind, though)..
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03-08-2012, 07:36 AM #25Rustlin' and hustlin'
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Those of you who said agmatine and not citrulline, why agmatine? Because you've used it and had sick pumps? Because you hear its the new thing? Something else?
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03-08-2012, 07:43 AM #26nondiabetik lifter
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Replace the NO Complex with this (500mg and 3g+ respectively imo), and I'd love to be a test dummy as the OG =/= affected me. sadpandaissad. PLCAR would be more expensive but doesn't require an insulin spike to take it in.Originally Posted by dbone1026
Agmatine and CitMal. Add in some CAR (ALCAR/PLCAR/LCLT).
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Serious? I got nothing from Fierce, but the taste is among my top 5 without a doubt.Originally Posted by stan47islav
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03-08-2012, 07:47 AM #2722nd Street Barbell
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GPLC please.
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03-08-2012, 07:51 AM #28Cell Technician
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Too expensive for an effective dose, no one would buy it although I agree.Originally Posted by Marshall28
L-Citrulline, Taurine, Potassium(EVERY company misses this one.) Would like to see some Nootropics, at effective doses.
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03-08-2012, 07:52 AM #29Rustlin' and hustlin'
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Again, have you used it? Did it help?Originally Posted by Marshall28
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03-08-2012, 07:54 AM #30Cell Technician
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GPLC is by far the best pump supplement Ive used, although I did notice I couldnt get as many reps out. Far too expensive though.Originally Posted by poison
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But great idea, this is what we want to see, keep it coming!
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