PakMan Back...

[History in Effect]

Well no back..I would have figured he would have been fifth at the highest..Branch Warren won't be getting Top 5 at the Olympia.

[Jeddore]

[2276]

Minotaur lower body. But really needs to hit that back

[ThePinsir]

I have a man-crush on Ben's shoulders. The most aesthetic out of ANYBODY'S imo. I'd love to see him go places!

Anyway, OP, he clearly outclassed Dex. I think 4th was appropriate.

[Agentdark45]

I honestly don't know how the judging worked at the AC.

The only reason Branch won was because of his lower body mass + conditioning (horrendous arms, back, love handles e.t.c). Ben P has him beat in both of his trademark areas and more. I just don't get it man.

[orderoutofchaos]

i honestly don't know how the judging worked at the ac.

The only reason branch won was because of his lower body mass + conditioning (horrendous arms, back, love handles e.t.c). Ben p has him beat in both of his trademark areas and more. I just don't get it man.

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[BartPimpson]

I honestly don't know how the judging worked at the AC.

The only reason Branch won was because of his lower body mass + conditioning (horrendous arms, back, love handles e.t.c). Ben P has him beat in both of his trademark areas and more. I just don't get it man.

I don't necessarily believe this, but some people are saying Branch won because it would make for an awesome Rocky Balboa moment.

[sculpt07]

love the paks front lat. More middle back thickness and i can see him smashing top 10 at the mr O. Cheers for the pics

[lee4]

people keep bashing the guys back... but i just don't see it. i realize it doesn't have the size necessary, but the area for improvement seems much smaller than people are making it out to be.

by area...
shoulders - some of the best in the ifbb
erectors - amazingly thick
traps - decent size, not underdeveloped by top tier standards at all
lats - this is the one muscle group lacking/requiring more development.

i realize it is the most important one, but i'd rather only have one muscle to bring up rather than several.

[realistromeo]

i LIKE THIS GUY! he has got a powerhouse physique, such impressive bodyparts (quads/calves/Hamstrings/shoulders) tie it all together with and improved back and biceps and he's goin places fast.

[IntraVol]

Those wheels are amazing!

[yzrider400f]

he looks unreal when he poses, but his midsection is LARGE when he isn't holding it in. Probably had the most distention on that stage this year. Between the gut and the hernia thing I am grossed out

[patsfan313]

would kill over 9000 kittens for his to have his legs and shoulders though

[xStevenx]

would kill over 9000 kittens for his to have his legs and shoulders though

He ate 9000 kittens to build them

[MesoPeaks]

weak back


how did he beat DEX???????????

[Diesel293]

Those delts are crazy.

[PaLftr]

people keep bashing the guys back... but i just don't see it. i realize it doesn't have the size necessary, but the area for improvement seems much smaller than people are making it out to be.

by area...
shoulders - some of the best in the ifbb
erectors - amazingly thick
traps - decent size, not underdeveloped by top tier standards at all
lats - this is the one muscle group lacking/requiring more development.

i realize it is the most important one, but i'd rather only have one muscle to bring up rather than several.

Cause you don't know anything about BB'ing or didn't watch the Arnold. Or both. When Ben P turns around he gets dominated by everyone. His back is so weak it's unbelievable.

[handyman89]

Minotaur lower body. But really needs to hit that back

agree looks like he does alot of DL's not enough rows his lower back is actually pretty thick though

[antish]

lower body of a god.

[aggballeralex]

I used to think Ben P's physique looked kind of odd(no hate), but now that he has brought up his upper body to go with those wheels he looks awesome.

[Whey Hey]

Cause you don't know anything about BB'ing or didn't watch the Arnold. Or both. When Ben P turns around he gets dominated by everyone. His back is so weak it's unbelievable.

Well to be more accurate, he gets dominated in certain areas, ie: the traps, lats, width etc.

In terms of his lower body (from the rear), he is on par with the likes of Branch with great hamstring detail / thickness, shredded glutes and of course those insane calves.

However that being said, i cant for the life of me understand how his rear lat spread can be so competitive amongst a top-tier level of guys, and then when he hits the rear double, it just looks so mediocre and dare i say it, under-developed.

He is still making strides, so i'm sure that back will come up a little over the next few years.

[salasmusl]

he's missing 2 of the most important bodyparts arms and back.

[NextProtege]

he's missing 2 of the most important bodyparts arms and back.

so did the guy who won the whole show two years in a row

and this year swept all the categories of most muscular, posing, fans choice...

[Jeddore]

he's missing 2 of the most important bodyparts arms and back.

unsure if knows who took the arnold, and the 2 bodyparts he lacks as well

[mike8190]

Cause you don't know anything about BB'ing or didn't watch the Arnold. Or both. When Ben P turns around he gets dominated by everyone. His back is so weak it's unbelievable.

It lacks a lot of thickness. When he stands next to wolf especially you can really see it. Even in the rear lat spread where it looks better, it has no depth.

And yeah, branch's back might be a mess, and look mushy, but its still thick. No way Ben should've placed higher than he was (and some people say he should have, lol) with that back. Don't think he should've beaten dex because of that.

But hopefully he could bring that up (and the waist down because damn its large) because he looks awesome until he turns around.

[SmarterChild]

dude looks like a freak

just wrried about that waist

[DavisForman]

Cause you don't know anything about BB'ing or didn't watch the Arnold. Or both. When Ben P turns around he gets dominated by everyone. His back is so weak it's unbelievable.

Hardly. His back is very good in the RLS and you forget that the back poses include hams, calves and glutes.

Man what is with the ridiculous exaggerations going on right now?

"Branch looked like sh*t! Evan and Wolf DOMINATED him!"

"Branch was WAY better than Evan and Wolf, it wasn't even close!"

"Branch's right leg was just as good as last year!"

"Branch had NO right leg!"

And now Ben P is dominated by everybody from behind...

[ncarter11]

I'd totally love to have either his or antoine v's physique as my own....

[mike8190]

Hardly. His back is very good in the RLS and you forget that the back poses include hams, calves and glutes.

Man what is with the ridiculous exaggerations going on right now?

And now Ben P is dominated by everybody from behind...

Thats because it's true. I'm a fan of ben's physique, but he has no thickness in the back. Zero depth even in the rear lat. Just because he has awesome legs (second best from the rear) doesn't make up for his super shallow back. Legs are only half the physique and back is obviously favored in rear poses.

I never really noticed his weak back, I guess because his upper body in general was weak before. But when I saw him posing I was really impressed by his gains, but once he turned around I thought dexter would have him beat because of how far behind his back is from the rest of his physique. In that respect, despite dexter's smaller size, and less than usual conditioning, I thought he was a much more complete bodybuilder than Ben. But once he improves, and hopefully adds some size to his arms, he'll be a threatening competitor.

[BigDaddyCoolPR]

I honestly don't know how the judging worked at the AC.

The only reason Branch won was because of his lower body mass + conditioning (horrendous arms, back, love handles e.t.c). Ben P has him beat in both of his trademark areas and more. I just don't get it man.

He won because he's Branch Warren. He was coming backfrom injury, the IFBB wanted to play up the whole "warrior" thing...

...that's it. The only way he was NOT going to win was if he himself F'd up and came in looking horrible. Other than that, it was his show to lose.