OH GOD NO!... Not this again!

[rockwood51]

REEEEEEEEEEEBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !



Ok, so...

We (training partner Ian & myself) have been hitting HRT since it debuted here on BB.com. I estimate that to be 16 weeks or so. Over the last few weeks we've been discussing alternatives to HRT mostly at my urging. I don't get as sore anymore and my body feels like it has accustomed itself to the stresses of this program. Ian has seen amazing gains and he's reluctant to switch, worried that the next program won't be as effective.

So we needed a solution....

We're taking HRT to a new level. Hopefully Tom won't mind us experimenting with his "baby". Hell maybe he'll help refine these alterations.

I've been doing a little looking at different programs and techniques to push the HRT program a little more so I can keep feeling like I'm pushing hard and Ian doesn't have to give up his "beloved" program I found an article G Diesel wrote on Dec 16, 2011 here on BB.com about some ways to push the limits of a program. You can read it here if you're interested: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/deviant-delts.html.

So to spice things up:
1) We're going to apply some of the "reverse" methods to the HRT program. (read the article, you'll understand)
2) We're switching up the sessions to be more of a push-pull type set of body parts. For instance chest/back, bis/tris, etc.
3) We're opening each session with a push-pull super set after the initial warm-up.
4) We're choosing to go with the "Team" (8+4) or "Solo" (8+6) as we see fit, depending on the lift. Also our "solo" style is more of a hybrid. We still apply pressure on the full negative, and assist (some) in returning the muscle to its contracted state (picking the weight up). We just remove the partial to focus on getting good technique and resistance in the negative. This applies mainly to the shorter movements like shrugs.

Here's each session broken down.

All sessions start with a 15 minute warm-up on cardio of our choice. Usually elliptical machines.
For those that don't know, the super set is combining two lifts into one set. Basically as soon as you're done with the first lift you immediately jump in and start the next lift with no rest between.

SESSION ONE - LEGS

Warm-up
Leg press 2-3x10
Deadlift 2-3x10

Superset
Leg Extension and Hamstring Curls - 2 rotations using HRT team style (8+4)

Quads
Squats - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
Leg Press - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
Stretch out the quads

Hamstrings/Glutes
Good Mornings - 2 sets HRT Solo style (8+6) We went solo here due to the awkwardness of applying the team technique and the risk of tweaking something if the pressure is uneven.
Deadlifts - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)

Calves
Standing Calf Raise - straight set (2x15)
Seated Calf Raise - straight set (2x15)



SESSION TWO - CHEST/BACK

Warm-up
Flat Bench 2-3x10
Barbell Rows 2-3x10

Super Set
Seated Butterflys - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
Reverse Butterflys - 2 sets *** Not sure on style yet, have to try it and adjust the first time through due to the machine we're on being awkward for the spotter

Chest
Incline Bench - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
Decline Bench - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)

Back
Wide Grip Pulldowns - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
"Jailhouse" Rows - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)



SESSION 3 - SHOULDERS
This was a hard day to plan for the "push-pull" idea. It's shoulders.... I did the best we can but it will probably adjust as we get into it. Animal guys maybe you can help with this day some?

Warm-up
Military Press 2-3x10
Shrugs 2-3x10

Superset
Standing Side Lateral Raise - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cable Front Raise - 2 sets HRT Team style

Delts
Dumbbell Upright Rows - 2 sets HRT Team style
Military Press - 2 sets HRT Team style

Traps/Rear Delts
Rear Lateral Raise - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cable Rear Delt Rows - 2 sets HRT Team style
Shrugs - 2 sets HRT Solo style




SESSION 4 - ARMS

Warm-up
Dumbbell Curls 2-3x10
Close grip press 2-3x10

Super Set
Cable Hammer Curls - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cable Pushdown - 2 sets HRT Team style

Biceps
Dumbbell Inner Curls - 2 sets HRT Team style (maybe solo, thats a game time decision)
Preacher Curls - 2 sets HRT Team style

Triceps
Skull Crushers - 2 sets HRT Team style
Close-grip Press - 2 sets HRT Team style

Forearms
We've been getting good results using the bar with the rope on it that you roll lifting the weight each time you roll your wrists. We're using that apparatus here.
Wrist Curls - 4x full rope
Reverse Wrist curls - 4x full rope





So Monday we're starting this program up.

The plan of action at this point is, tomorrow (Thursday 3/1/12) we're going to have a max day to see where our strength has gone up through the original "12 weeks of hell HRT program". We're excited really. Then Friday/Saturday/Sunday we're taking off to rest up and get everything back in order. I'll probably have a cheat meal or two. I've been dying for some wings, so that might happen. We're also going to take the time to get our new measurements, stats, and possibly new pictures even though I'm still a pretty fat kid, and hate cameras.

We'll be posting those here as well as posting up what our diets are going to look like. Mine won't change really from the other thread. Just this time around I'm actually already in the routine so it will be easy to stick to it. Last time it took me a good 8 weeks to really get on-board the diet train.

Since neither of us want to be competing bodybuilders, we're taking this as more of a transformation journey. Consider it a very serious hobby, kind of like our long range shooting. We go out and shoot steel almost every weekend out to 800+ yards and we take that VERY seriously. We don't compete much, but if we need to use these skills they're finely tuned . That's the attitude we have with our workouts/diet and yes even cardio now.


This.... is going to be interesting.

OH! And I start my animal supplements next week. Details to come

[rockwood51]

I'm going to weigh in on Sunday's if possible. This Sunday I was at 336. My goal by the end of the program is to be at 290. That's a pretty big transformation during 12-weeks and would put me at -85lbs since last May. I'd be pretty proud of that even though its not the 100 mark that most people like to see in a year. However, I've put on a **** ton of muscle compared to what I was so I can take that into account as well.

Ian weighed in last night and was at 173.5. I can tell he's frustrated because he's dropping slowly. I'm trying to press on him that it's all about diet. He ideally wants to be at around 200 eventually. For the 12 weeks I'm going to set a goal for him that he's up to 185.

So in summary this week:

Cody
Current weight: 336
Total change: ----
Goal: 290lbs

Ian
Current weight: 173.5
Total change: ----
Goal: 185lbs

[rockwood51]

DIET

My diet is going to carry over from what I was using in the other thread and reflect a few adjustments I've made through the time being on it.

Meal 1
0.5c Brown rice
2 whole eggs / 2 egg whites

Meal 2
0.5c Brown rice
6oz chicken

Meal 3
0.5c Brown rice
6oz chicken

Meal 4
0.5c Brown rice
6oz chicken

Meal 5
6oz chicken

Meal 6
6oz chicken

IN BED - 12am

CARDIO
Cardio will be in the morning, once my schedule adjusts for it. I'm still working my sleep cycle into the 12am-8am routine. For the last several months sometimes I'm only sleeping 3-5 hours a couple times a week and that doesn't work. Once I get my sleep worked out I'll be doing 30 mins on a bike in the AM and another 30 after the workout. On the days I don't work out I'll do an hour in the AM.

SUPPLEMENTS
I switched over to Animal stuff this week. It's cheaper and I'm I'll see the results everyone else does. I'm taking:

- Animal Pak
- Animal Cuts
- Animal Stak
- Animal Nitro

I'll probably take cuts this first month and then wait until the last month to do another cycle (3 weeks on 1 off). However I want to see how I feel on it to make that call. Stak will be the first 2 months and I'm considering TEST for the 3rd. PAK and NITRO will be used for the duration.

[rockwood51]

Last night was our first session in the new program. We had to alter the original order legs could be later in the week. Ian's wife likes to come hit legs with us (she's trying to get that squat butt) and her schedule was switched up meaning the end of the week was only available.


SHOULDERS - 3/5/12

Warm-up
Military Press 2-3x10
Cody - 115lbs
Ian - 115lbs

Shrugs 2-3x10
Cody - 225lbs
Ian - 225lbs

Superset - Both lifts done back to back, no rest. Hellcentric reps are used on both sets.
Standing Side Lateral Raise - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cody - 20lbs
Ian - 15lbs

Cable Front Raise - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cody - 60lbs
Ian - 50lbs

Delts
Cable Upright Rows - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cody - 140lbs
Ian - 120lbs

Military Press - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cody - 145lbs
Ian - 125lbs


Traps/Rear Delts
Rear Lateral Raise - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cody - 15lbs
Ian - 15lbs

Cable Rear Delt Rows - 2 sets HRT Team style
Cody - 120lbs
Ian - 90lbs

Shrugs - 2 sets HRT Solo style
Cody - 405lbs
Ian - 385lbs

[rbowman91]

Keep us posted on how this works out bro. I'm always curious about experimentation. 16 weeks on HRT is a long time. Steve and I noticed the same thing (our bodies just got accustomed to it) since we had done 16 weeks as well. Switching up our exercises midway through helped me out a lot as well. Turns out, HRT can be done with almost anything. Even weighted bench dips, which I asked tom about at the Arnold. I couldn't think of a way to apply hellcentrics that would not involve the spotter grabbing his bros butt (not very Animal), but he made a good point when he said you could just lift from under their arms when helping them up. Just gotta get creative.

Try HRT alternating dumbell curls and alternating hammer curls if you want a real blast. Tom spotted me on those with hellcentrics, and its killer (prob due to the alternating so it took a lot more of my endurance to finish).

[rockwood51]

We noticed a marked difference in difficulty last night.

Starting out with the super set was taxing, and the pump that resulted right there at the beginning was intense, which is what I wanted to achieve. By the end of the workout, we still had some strength on the last set or two and weren't blown out (which I try to avoid because it leads to over training IMO.) However, there was definitely a weakness that we haven't felt before. It almost felt like a different kind of failure.

And I don't know if its just a "placebo" effect or what, but I swear my shoulders are fuller right now. When we woke up this morning both of us felt like there was a difference in how we looked and how our shoulders felt. I have a hard time believing we made noticeable improvements in one workout as far as growth, but it does feel like the muscles are fuller which is a good sign growth is happening.

We'll see. Again, this is an experiment on our ends. We weren't ready to move away from HRT yet. Probably after June (we both have goals set for then) we'll move on to a strength program to give some time off from HRT. However at this point our goals are transformation and we've seen such results up to now that we don't want to lose those benefits. We just want to keep them at the same pace as when we started.

Hopefully Tom and some of the Animal guys will step in and have some comments on whether this might work long term or not, or even provide some tweaks to help make it more effective. Either way we'll see.

[rockwood51]

CHEST/BACK - 3/6/12

Warm-up
Flat Bench 2-3x10
Barbell Rows 2-3x10

Super Set
Seated Butterflys - (8+4)
Cody - 150lbs
Ian - 130lbs

Reverse Butterflys - (8+4)
Cody - 100lbs
Ian - 70lbs


Chest
Decline Bench - (8+4)
Cody - 185lbs
Ian - 155lbs

Incline Bench - (8+4)
Cody - 115lbs
Ian - 95lbs

Back
Wide Grip Pulldowns - (8+4)
Cody - 170lbs
Ian - 120lbs

T-Bar Rows - (8+6) Switched to solo on this because we were having issues with technique. When the partner lifted the weight after the full negative it would throw us off balance and out of form. With us controlling the ascent we were much more stable.
Cody - 110lbs
Ian - 110lbs




We're definitely going to need to re-arrange the order of the workouts. Chest/Back after shoulders was a bad idea. Not to mention we hadn't hit chest or back in over a week since we took the second half of last week off. We were stiff and this really wasn't a spectacular workout. We'll fix that next week.

[rockwood51]

We've got legs tonight. Ready to get kicking, this workout is going to be rough.

I wanted to mention I'm really settling in on the diet. I'm going to have some pretty incredible results on Sunday when I weigh in. I hopped on the scale this morning and was slightly shocked. Of course I'll probably pick a bit of that up in water retention since I've got two more sessions to go, but by Sunday I should shed most of that back out.

I think a big part of beating my cravings and breaking the cheat cycle was just getting past the physical desire (High Glycemic sugar high, etc) and the emotional part of eating. Eating is what my family does when we get together, and we eat pretty bad. That's also the most common thing my friend circle does. We go out to eat and catch-up/talk/hang out. I'm having to break myself from that and realize that socializing doesn't need to involve food.

I realize most of you probably find it ridiculous that anything emotional or physical can be tied to food and lead to cheating on a diet. This is a body building forum after all. However it exists and its not an easy thing to break. I figured I'd mention it, because I'm sure a few lurkers who may or may not be posting on the forums might have had similar issues in the past or even presently. The fix is to just stick with it and find the "no" button. Realize you're never going to get where you want if you don't cut the bull**** and take control of your life.

[rockwood51]

LEGS - 3/9/12

Superset
Leg Extension
Cody - 155
Ian - 90

Hamstring Curls
Cody - 95
Ian - 70

Quads
Squats - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
Cody - 405
Ian - 275

Leg Press - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
Cody - 820
Ian - 515

Hamstrings/Glutes
Good Mornings
Cody - 135
Ian - 95

Deadlifts
Cody - 315
Ian - 245

Calves
We were beat so these are getting moved to tomorrow


Leg press was ridiculously hard. I'm in that zone that is right there at my max I think. I'm going to stay for a couple weeks at 820lbs to try and make some progress into better sets before continuing to push. My deadlift is weak too compared to my squats. I was failing pretty badly on the second set. I need to improve that dramatically.

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[rockwood51]

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[rockwood51]

So I missed recording our arms workout last week and I don't remember the weights so I'll have to skip that. However we DID do it. I coasted through the weekend resting up. I didn't eat fantastic, but it wasn't awful either.

Ian weighed in last night, I hit it today, and here are the results:

Cody
Current weight: 328
Total change: -8lbs
Goal: 290lbs

Ian
Current weight: 173
Total change: -0.5lbs
Goal: 185lbs


I'm stoked about an 8lb drop. I'm assuming some of it is water and other shenanagins dropping out. However, I haven't noticed a dramatic increase in water consumption OR peeing (which is weird considering I'm taking CUTS.) Maybe it's happening and I'm just not realizing it. I'm curious to see if the dramatic drops continue this week. The crazy thing is I haven't started cardio yet. I've been trying to clear up some of my workload so I can actually get to bed on time a couple nights in a row and get up earlier in the AM. That will allow me to get my morning cardio in and cook, etc without clients screaming "WHERE'S MY STUFF, WHY ISN'T IT DONE? IT SHOULD ONLY TAKE A COUPLE HOURS AND I SENT IT 10 MINUTES AGO?!?!" /rant

Ian isn't as happy. He's consistently lowered his weight for about 2 weeks, down from 174.5. I've been telling him that its his eating getting him into trouble. I keep telling him "go talk to Ross if you don't believe me, damn it." So yesterday after getting off the scale we agreed that he'd try what I'm saying. I told him to cut the excuses and just find a way to eat. Take a lunch box with you to school, eat **** cold, do what you have to. The simple fact is is that you can NOT grow without the food to do so. Your body doesn't defy the laws of physics and create mass from nothing. So we've basically decided that when I'm cooking in the morning I'm going to throw his food in with mine and just get him set up to start eating right for a couple weeks. It's more work for me, but what ever. He'll owe me when the results start happening.

Anyways yesterday we both got back after it.

CHEST/BACK - 3/12/12
Notes: We added a couple lifts to help better hit the whole chest and back. At the end of the chest section we added Dumbbell Flat Press. What we're finding is that the solo **** is hard. And its a fantastic final burnout technique. There's something about having to do the negative and then pick that **** back up yourself that makes you want to quit. We added close-grip seated rows to the back section to try and hit the entire back.

Warm-up
Flat Bench 2-3x10
Barbell Rows 2-3x10

Super Set
Seated Butterflys - (8+4)
Cody - 150lbs
Ian - 130lbs

Reverse Butterflys - (8+4)
Cody - 120lbs
Ian - 70lbs


Chest
Decline Bench - (8+4)
Cody - 175lbs - I lowered the weight because I'm doing something weird with my left shoulder under the higher weight. It's causing terrible form and I need to get it under control before pushing forward in the weight again.
Ian - 155lbs

Incline Bench - (8+4)
Cody - 135lbs
Ian - 115lbs

Dumbell Flat Press - (8+6)
Cody - 45s - these need to go up, I just wasn't sure where I was at since it was the first go.
Ian - 30s

Back
Wide Grip Cable Pulldowns - (8+4)
Cody - 155lbs
Ian - 120lbs

Close-grip Machine Rows - (8+4)
Cody - 160lbs
Ian - 120lbs

T-Bar Rows - (8+6)
Cody - 120lbs
Ian - 120lbs

[rockwood51]

LEGS - 3/13/12

Superset
Leg Extension
Cody - 160
Ian - 100

Hamstring Curls
Cody - 100
Ian - 80

Quads
Squats - 2 sets HRT Team style (8+4)
Cody - 405
Ian - 315

Leg Press - (8+6)
I wanted to see what a solo set of these feel like so we tried it today.

Cody - 695 - I dropped my weight back. I had a very rough time pushing 820 last week and quite frankly I don't want to push my legs that hard every week and risk injury. I've seen people pop quad muscles, or blow out knees before and its a catastrophic injury. Something I want to avoid. 695 solo style was still a pretty good burn.
Ian - 515

Hamstrings/Glutes
Good Mornings
Cody - 165
Ian - 115

Deadlifts
Cody - 315 - My second set here was interesting. Read below.
Ian - 225


So this "Reverse Perverse" **** sucks ass. It's hard as hell. On leg night it basically means deadlifts get to be the last thing we do before we go home. By then we're both sucking wind and some nights trying not to hurl. Tonight I did my first set and struggled. 315 felt like 405. Then Ian did his last set, and was bitching about it, sucking wind and just generally in a foul mood. His last set he went to complete failure and actually fell down when he took the first step off the box.

So I proceed to tell him, "**** it, we do this **** so when we need it, the strength will be there. So if you ever need it, you'll be able to save Noelle (his wife.) None of our friends outside of us can handle this ****. None of them could save their own ass in a bad situation let alone someone else. We're not going to be weak and helpless." I said all this as I'm standing on the box getting ready for my second set. I rolled my straps and just went to it. I cranked through the 8 reps like it was 225 and rocked the HCR's. I got down and stopped and though, ha, I jacked myself up just talking about that. Nice.

I thought I would share that. I was pretty pumped about it and its true. Not only do I want to look good, I want to know when the **** hits the fan and I need my body, its going to be there to get the job done. I'm not going to be some punk bitch with toothpick appendages squealing for someone to help. I'm going to do it myself.

[coles10]

this looks pretty intense

[rockwood51]

this looks pretty intense

I can't say its a lot of fun, but it's working.

[rockwood51]

Shoulders tonight. I wish I could get some feedback from the Animal guys on whether this plan is going to work long term, if they see problems or tweaks needed, etc. Tom, Dead, G? You guys out there?

[ThatGalZoey]

Hey, it's been what? Over 2 months since you started your own version of HRT. Can you share the results or developments? We'd love to hear about it.