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    Raw cacoa nibs are so good.
    I see you are a SBUX junkie too! *cheers*

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    Sun - cardio
    Mon - Hamms, abs, calves
    Tues - Chest and bi's
    Wed - cardio
    Thurs - Quads and tri's
    Fri - REST
    Sat - Back and shoulders


    Looks good to me I've been thinking about trying to do two days of legs too, mainly for my glutes though I'm tired of that butt sag I'm currently experiencing
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    Red face Tues and Wed March 6th and 7th 2012

    Originally Posted by Adela777 View Post
    In!

    Raw cacoa nibs are so good.
    I see you are a SBUX junkie too! *cheers*

    Im excited to follow along and see how you think things through!
    I am a horrible SBUX addict! I must get over this....to f&^%*ing expensive!! Raw nibs were a hit, crunch and choc at the same time...and a super food...but again, pretty expensive...

    Originally Posted by Ivey_Itch View Post
    Sun - cardio
    Mon - Hamms, abs, calves
    Tues - Chest and bi's
    Wed - cardio
    Thurs - Quads and tri's
    Fri - REST
    Sat - Back and shoulders


    Looks good to me I've been thinking about trying to do two days of legs too, mainly for my glutes though I'm tired of that butt sag I'm currently experiencing
    I just find that my hams just need work, so splitting quads and hams may work better for me...we shall see

    Tues was chest and bi's - kinda crappy workout. I did not sleep well - my 4 year old has been waking up and crawling in with me in the middle of the night, and for a little guy, he sure takes up alot of room

    Bench
    4*3,4,3,2 - 120lbs

    Incline Bench
    3*7,6,6 - 95lbs

    DB Bench
    3*10,8,6 - 40lbs

    Incline Fly
    2*25,20 - 20lbs

    CB Curl
    2*3 - 35lbs

    BB Curl
    2*12,10 - 50lbs

    Hammers
    1*20 - 20lbs

    Today was HIT cardio and I almost bagged it. Started out on the treadmill and hamms were still tight and sore from Mon's w\o, but I only did MISS cardio on Sunday so I needed to get this done. So I sucked it up and got 'er done :

    9 intervals @ 9mph
    1 interval @ 10 mph

    22 min total

    Today's eats:

    M1
    oat bran and whites

    M2
    High Protein cheesecake - epic fail here - forgot the splenda and cooked in a bigger pan. Horrible!

    M3
    tuna, ff cheedar, spinach in a low carb wrap

    M4
    Starbucks Venti Skinny Caramel Macchiato.......see above reply to Adela777
    M5
    Cauliflower pizza with ff cheddar, onion, spinach and red pepper

    M6
    Sludge bowl:
    pp, almond butter, blueberries and cacoa nibs

    Totals:
    cals = 1798
    fat = 53
    carb = 132
    pro = 204
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    Originally Posted by ms_mac View Post
    I am a horrible SBUX addict! I must get over this....to f&^%*ing expensive!! Raw nibs were a hit, crunch and choc at the same time...and a super food...but again, pretty expensive...



    I just find that my hams just need work, so splitting quads and hams may work better for me...we shall see

    Tues was chest and bi's - kinda crappy workout. I did not sleep well - my 4 year old has been waking up and crawling in with me in the middle of the night, and for a little guy, he sure takes up alot of room

    Bench
    4*3,4,3,2 - 120lbs

    Incline Bench
    3*7,6,6 - 95lbs

    DB Bench
    3*10,8,6 - 40lbs

    Incline Fly
    2*25,20 - 20lbs

    CB Curl
    2*3 - 35lbs

    BB Curl
    2*12,10 - 50lbs

    Hammers
    1*20 - 20lbs

    Today was HIT cardio and I almost bagged it. Started out on the treadmill and hamms were still tight and sore from Mon's w\o, but I only did MISS cardio on Sunday so I needed to get this done. So I sucked it up and got 'er done :

    9 intervals @ 9mph
    1 interval @ 10 mph

    22 min total

    Today's eats:

    M1
    oat bran and whites

    M2
    High Protein cheesecake - epic fail here - forgot the splenda and cooked in a bigger pan. Horrible!

    M3
    tuna, ff cheedar, spinach in a low carb wrap

    M4
    Starbucks Venti Skinny Caramel Macchiato.......see above reply to Adela777
    M5
    Cauliflower pizza with ff cheddar, onion, spinach and red pepper

    M6
    Sludge bowl:
    pp, almond butter, blueberries and cacoa nibs

    Totals:
    cals = 1798
    fat = 53
    carb = 132
    pro = 204
    Nice workout!!
    Bummer about the cheesecake. Ew! Lol...
    I like cacao nibs, too. Sometimes I put them on top of my choco/banana smoothie. Yum.
    Do you like training each group once a week? I have never done that (no plans to soon, just curious!)
    My 4 year old has never crawled out of bed. She still calls me to potty in the night! My 2 year old is still in a crib but I think she will be different.
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    oh man, kids/sleep, suck! I remember laying in bed yesterday thinking how nice it is that they all finally sleep through the night (I probably jinxed it now). 3 years in a row with no full nights sleep sucked. I'm ready for this time change! My 2 year old keeps waking up at 5:40 or earlier yelling to the top of her lungs "MORNING TIME!!! MORNING TIME!!!" Uggg, she drives me freaking nuts. She wakes up EVERYONE and then they are grouchy all day. She even has the darkening curtains, but apparently they aren't dark enough And I'm with you, I don't know how creatures so small can take up so much room. There's only been a few times I've shared the bed (sick/traveling) and I was about ready to just sleep on the floor! lol Hope you get a good nights sleep tonight!
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    Originally Posted by Ivey_Itch View Post
    My 2 year old keeps waking up at 5:40 or earlier yelling to the top of her lungs "MORNING TIME!!! MORNING TIME!!!"
    This made me LOL!!! I have a 2 year old (and a 4 year old), too. Early mornings around here as well. But I get up at 430 to hit the gym so hubby does wake up with them. Not fun on weekends though!
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    Yay! You're here. Are you going to start a journal? Do you get to SJ very much?
    Nah I don't think I will be starting a journal; I track everything on an Excel spreadsheet but I fear that if I have one here that I will be on here even more than I already am I spent quite a bit of time in SJ at one point over a year ago, I was taking a course there. Haven't been that way in months...I have some good friends there so I must make a point to head up that way for a visit.
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    Originally Posted by -H- View Post
    Nice workout!!
    Bummer about the cheesecake. Ew! Lol...
    I like cacao nibs, too. Sometimes I put them on top of my choco/banana smoothie. Yum.
    Do you like training each group once a week? I have never done that (no plans to soon, just curious!)
    My 4 year old has never crawled out of bed. She still calls me to potty in the night! My 2 year old is still in a crib but I think she will be different.
    I like to mix things up every once in a while where I will do a fb split, but I really prefer each body part per week. My older girls were never ones to get out of bed, either.....must be a boy thing..

    Originally Posted by Ivey_Itch View Post
    oh man, kids/sleep, suck! I remember laying in bed yesterday thinking how nice it is that they all finally sleep through the night (I probably jinxed it now). 3 years in a row with no full nights sleep sucked. I'm ready for this time change! My 2 year old keeps waking up at 5:40 or earlier yelling to the top of her lungs "MORNING TIME!!! MORNING TIME!!!" Uggg, she drives me freaking nuts. She wakes up EVERYONE and then they are grouchy all day. She even has the darkening curtains, but apparently they aren't dark enough And I'm with you, I don't know how creatures so small can take up so much room. There's only been a few times I've shared the bed (sick/traveling) and I was about ready to just sleep on the floor! lol Hope you get a good nights sleep tonight!
    You really need to get some down time, lady

    Originally Posted by -H- View Post
    This made me LOL!!! I have a 2 year old (and a 4 year old), too. Early mornings around here as well. But I get up at 430 to hit the gym so hubby does wake up with them. Not fun on weekends though!
    My son is not up too early - usually 7 ish. I can handle that..

    Originally Posted by WariorGoddess View Post
    Nah I don't think I will be starting a journal; I track everything on an Excel spreadsheet but I fear that if I have one here that I will be on here even more than I already am I spent quite a bit of time in SJ at one point over a year ago, I was taking a course there. Haven't been that way in months...I have some good friends there so I must make a point to head up that way for a visit.
    I'm enjoying following your workouts as I am planning on starting PMB very soon...very excited about this

    Have a great day
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    Thurs March 9th 2012

    Back and shoulders:

    Pullups
    3*3 - body weight

    Rack deads
    4*4,4,2,3 - 185lbs

    BB Row
    3*10,8,8 - 80lbs

    Pulldowns
    3*12,10,10 - 60lbs

    Bradford Press
    4*5,4,3,3 - 55lbs

    DB Press
    1*6 - 35lbs
    2*8 - 30lbs

    DB Front\side raise
    2*8 - 15lbs

    Upright row
    1*25 - 25lbs

    I tried an experiment today - IF. I don't think this is for me. I worked out at 9 am and didn't have my first meal until 2...the whole time I spent stressing about not eating as soon as I was finished my workout Then when I did eat I had a really hard time eating such a huge meal. I ate 2 more meals after that, but felt like I was just stuffing in food - was not hungry to eat at all. Went to bed feeling awful....

    This was my IF day:

    M1
    huge chicken stir fry with veggies and brown rice

    M2
    a big ole steak with mushrooms and onions

    M3
    sludge bowl

    Totals:
    cals = 1785
    fat = 64
    carb = 115
    pro = 188

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    Fri March 9th 2012

    Today is a rest day but its also weigh in day. Here is a quick progress report since I started my lean out phase:

    Just a quick update - I am now 5 weeks in and this is my weekly progress:

    Started at 131.8 on Feb 4th

    Feb 10th - 127.2
    Feb 17th - 125.8
    Feb 24th - 125.6
    March 2nd - 125.2
    March 9th - 124.4

    So about 7 lbs down in 5 weeks, but the initial 4lbs in week 1 was mostly water weight, so I am happy with the slower loss in the weeks following. I am thinking I may only cut for another 3 or 4 weeks, then go to maintenance for awhile. We shall see
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    Great workout and congrats on the nice weight drop. What is your goal weight?
    Hmm.. I'm not sure I could do IF either, I like to eat all day long
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    Sweet progress
    Thanks. I am happy with it

    Originally Posted by newbeginning828 View Post
    Great workout and congrats on the nice weight drop. What is your goal weight?
    Hmm.. I'm not sure I could do IF either, I like to eat all day long
    Hi...I don't really have a weight goal, just looking to lean down a bit for the OBF challenge and maybe a visible 6 pack for bikini season I can't imagine anyone trying to BULK on IF.....

    Today was legs, tri's and REFEED!!!

    BB Squats
    4*5 - 165lbs

    Front Squats
    3*9,8,8 - 95lbs

    Bulgarian Split Squats - forgot how much I HATE these
    3*8 - 45lbs

    Plie Squats
    2*30 - 20lbs

    CGBP
    3*2 - 115lbs

    Skulls
    2*10,7 - 45lb plate

    Tri Pressdown
    1*40

    Eats:

    M1
    Smores oatmeal:
    oats and whites topped with a marshmallow, a crushed graham cracker and 1 tbls mini chips

    M2
    Starbucks Venti Skinny Caramel Macchiato

    M3 - dinner out at Montana's
    White meat rotisserie chicken with baked beans, coleslaw and cornbread
    Dessert was an oat fudge bar that I picked up earlier at Starbucks

    M4
    sludge bowl

    Totals
    Cals = 2197
    fat = 74
    carb = 221
    pro = 173
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    Sun and Mon March 11 and 12 2012

    Yesterday was a cardio day - ran an easy - I mean EASY - 5K on the treadmill - 30 min.

    Today was hamms, abs and calves:

    RDL
    4*5 - 155lbs

    Good mornings
    3*12 - 65lbs

    Lying leg curl
    3*12,10,8 - 45lbs

    SLDL
    2*40 - 50lbs

    Hanging leg raise - legs out straight
    3*10,10,8

    Obliques
    3*15 - 30lbs

    BB Calf raise
    3*12 - 165lbs

    Eats today:

    M1
    oat bran, egg whites and cocao

    M2
    sludge bowl

    M3
    pork loin chop
    strawberry spinach salad
    baby carrots

    M4
    cheesecake

    M5
    bigger sludge bowl

    Cals = 1779, fat = 68, carbs = 123, pro = 181
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    Nice progress!
    S'mores Oatmeal?!!! I must try this! Fabulous idea. I love to put stuff in oats but hadn't thought of this one! I love to add sweetener, ginger, pumpkin pie spice, cinnamon and top with applesauce and a crumbled ginger cookie (enjoy life brand-soft and chewy.)
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    Hi...I don't really have a weight goal, just looking to lean down a bit for the OBF challenge and maybe a visible 6 pack for bikini season I can't imagine anyone trying to BULK on IF....
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    Did you do 2 sets of 40 reps of SLDL!? ! That's hardcore lol! Ouch
    I thought the same thing! I was like, wait, did I read that wrong? LOL
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    Originally Posted by -H- View Post
    Nice progress!
    S'mores Oatmeal?!!! I must try this! Fabulous idea. I love to put stuff in oats but hadn't thought of this one! I love to add sweetener, ginger, pumpkin pie spice, cinnamon and top with applesauce and a crumbled ginger cookie (enjoy life brand-soft and chewy.)
    Or dark chocolate PB. LOL.
    Yummy ginger cookies I have put canned pumpkin and pumpkin pie spice in my oats too. That was delish, but next time I'll do a crumbled cookie too. Thanks for that idea.

    Originally Posted by newbeginning828 View Post
    Great goal! And yuuum on all the good eats!
    Thanks! I need to go check out your journal...sorry I haven't been over yet....promise to get there today..

    Originally Posted by gobbles23 View Post
    Did you do 2 sets of 40 reps of SLDL!? ! That's hardcore lol! Ouch
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    I thought the same thing! I was like, wait, did I read that wrong? LOL
    I did but it was LIGHT WEIGHT! Regardless my butt and hammies are feeling these today.

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    4*4 - 50lbs
    4*6 - 45lbs
    3*8 - 40lbs
    3*12 - 30lbs
    1*30 - 20lbs
    1*40 - 15lbs

    Cross body curls
    2*3 - 35lbs
    2*8 - 25lbs
    1*30 - 15lbs

    Then I really wasn't feeling my usual oats and eggwhites either. Had a craving for burnt toast of all things. So Meal 1 was burnt ww toast spread with protein sludge and a banana, cinnamon sprinkled on top.

    Seems like it just might be an "off" day for me for some reason. Probably feeling a bit "let down" after yesterday's weather. It was 15 degrees and beautiful here yesterday - today, -2 and calling for snow

    Here is today's meals:

    M1
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    M2
    cheesecake

    M3
    Starbucks venti skinny caramel macchiato - thought it might change my dreary mood...

    M4
    chef salad - spinach, deli ham, egg, tomato, peppers, onions, mustard
    roasted brussel sprouts

    M5
    meringue cookies - again, the mood thing...

    M6
    sludge bowl

    Cals = 1855
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    carb - 143
    pro = 201

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    Originally Posted by ms_mac View Post

    Seems like it just might be an "off" day for me for some reason. Probably feeling a bit "let down" after yesterday's weather. It was 15 degrees and beautiful here yesterday - today, -2 and calling for snow
    Seems like a few of us have been having 'off' days lately. I too think its the bouncy weather. One day it's nice the next it's gloomy.

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    Originally Posted by newbeginning828 View Post
    Seems like a few of us have been having 'off' days lately. I too think its the bouncy weather. One day it's nice the next it's gloomy.

    Great workout for an 'off' day!
    Yup, this weather totally sucks! I need to move to the south when its cold in Canada...which is about 10 months of the year..

    My hubby comes home tommorow night, though, so all will be right with the world...at least for a few days until he needs to go back.

    Here is today's meals:

    M1
    ww toast with pp and a banana

    M2
    cheesecake

    M3
    Starbucks venti skinny caramel macchiato - thought it might change my dreary mood...

    M4
    chef salad - spinach, deli ham, egg, tomato, peppers, onions, mustard
    roasted brussel sprouts

    M5
    meringue cookies - again, the mood thing...

    M6
    sludge bowl

    Cals = 1855
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    Originally Posted by skulpted View Post
    Your progress is amazing, way to kick butt! Are you still only doing 1 HIIT and 1 LISS cardio a week? How do you decide your refeed days?

    I'm always curious to see how its done the right way! You must be real close to your goal body now!
    Yes, still 1 hiit and 1 liss\miss. Refeed comes every Sat - no particular reason but usually the whole family gets together for supper, so thats the day I pick for a cheat\refeed.....however I had an unplanned cheat last night


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    I love your journal, clean cut, simple

    It slush snowed here too. Im over it!

    And Sbux and cacao nibs are expensive. But the nibs last forever!

    Great work in here!
    Thanks! nibs last forever, eh?? Not here.....I'm just about out

    So as I mentioned above, I ate a late night "snack" .... a big ole slice of cheesecake (actually half a small one)that I had left in the fridge. Granted it was the high protein low carb one, but it still set me back to the tune of 600 cals Yesterday's totals ended up being:
    Cals = 2460
    Fat = 80
    Carbs = 173
    Pro = 272 - YIKES!! Thats ALOTTA Protein...

    So - I have a few options:
    1 - cut back today by 600 cals which would mean I only get 1200 cals - I THINK NOT!!
    2 - cut back today and tomorrow by 300 cals each - not a bad option, but 1500 cals - still not appealling
    3 - do extra cardio to the tune of about an hour - doubtful!
    4 - suck it up and move on - leaning toward this one

    The way I see it - I am not getting stage ready, just a little online contest going on. I still have lots of time - 10 weeks before after pics are due, so really, is one bad day gonna hurt in the long run? Nope!!!

    Okay, now that I got that outta the way - I just finished my weekly hiit:

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    4 - suck it up and move on - leaning toward this one

    The way I see it - I am not getting stage ready, just a little online contest going on. I still have lots of time - 10 weeks before after pics are due, so really, is one bad day gonna hurt in the long run? Nope!!!
    I agree with this one, too.
    I feel ya on the off days, me, too, this week. Strange cause here the weather has been beautiful!
    Hope you have a great day today!!
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    Originally Posted by -H- View Post
    I agree with this one, too.
    I feel ya on the off days, me, too, this week. Strange cause here the weather has been beautiful!
    Hope you have a great day today!!
    Hope the rest of your week is getting better!

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    3*10,7,7 - 70lbs

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    1*40 - 20lbs

    Bradford Press
    4*5,4,4,3 - 55lbs

    Front\side raise
    3*9,8,8 - 15lbs

    Upright Row
    1*26 - 25lbs plate

    Today is a rest day and weigh in day - here are my results after 6 weeks:

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    Feb 10th - 127.2
    Feb 17th - 125.8
    Feb 24th - 125.6
    March 2nd - 125.2
    March 9th - 124.4
    March 16th - 122.4

    So based on a 2lb weight loss this week I think I need to increase calories. I still have about 10 weeks ( I think 9 or 10) to go, and with 9 lbs gone in 6 weeks, thats just too fast for me. So I will increase by 100 cals this week and see how it goes. That puts me at 1900 cals.....1900 cals and cutting? Who would have ever thunk it???
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    So based on a 2lb weight loss this week I think I need to increase calories. I still have about 10 weeks ( I think 9 or 10) to go, and with 9 lbs gone in 6 weeks, thats just too fast for me. So I will increase by 100 cals this week and see how it goes. That puts me at 1900 cals.....1900 cals and cutting? Who would have ever thunk it???
    Wow!! That's awesome! Can't wait til I can do that one day YUM!

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    Wow, crazy fast weight loss! How much more are you looking to lose??
    I don't really have a number in mind - just wanna see my abs..

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    Wow!! That's awesome! Can't wait til I can do that one day YUM!

    Holy wow on the 40rep DB rows... AND you managed to do raises and rows afterward!!.. amazing!
    Thanks - but I am complete toast today...luv it

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    Yesterday was leg day and my cheat meal - I earned it, let me tell ya

    BB Squat
    4*5,4,4,3 -175lbs

    Front Squat
    4*8,8,6,6 - 95lbs

    BSS
    3*10,8,8 - 45lbs

    Plie Squat
    1*40 - 20lbs

    CGBP
    2*5,4 - 115lbs

    Skulls
    2*10,8 - 45lbs

    Tri Press Down
    1*20

    Eats:

    M1
    oats and whites

    M2
    protein shake

    M3
    Protein shake

    M4 - out to a local steakhouse
    hubby and I shared an order of mozza sticks
    1\2 lb cheeseburger with fries
    2 lite beer
    and we shared a piece of chocolate devine cake!!!

    Totals:
    cals = a bizzillion
    did not track macros ....I don't wanna know

    Today was MISS cardio - ran 10K with hubby. It was beautiful here today!!

    Today's macros:
    Cals = 1918
    fat = 63
    carbs = 145
    pro = 188

    M1
    oats and whites

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    2:1 protein bar

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