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    Tues April 10th 2012

    Originally Posted by dreahere View Post
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    Sounds like you had a lovely holiday!
    Thanks! I had a great Easter, even if I did go overboard!

    Originally Posted by newbeginning828 View Post
    Yuuuum soo much good eats! Looks like you had a great Easter
    Neeeh don't worry about that scale... what do you need that thing for anyway right
    I know, right??? Hopefully I can stick to my guns. I see my nutrition guy Fri morning, then every 2 weeks so I might just weigh there...once every 2 weeks...I think I can hang with that

    Today - Hamms

    Fewer cals is starting to take a toll on my strength This was not the greatest of workouts, but it is what it is. Can't wait to bulk again

    RDL
    6*4,3,3,2,2,2 - 165lbs

    Leg Curl
    4*8

    DBDL
    4*10,10,10,8 - 45lbs

    DB Calf Raise
    4*20 - 50lbs

    Hanging leg raise
    2*10 - legs straight
    2*15 - legs bent

    Oblique Russian Twist
    4*10

    Eats:

    M1
    oats, whites, pumpkin

    M2
    Greek yogurt, cacao nibs

    M3
    turkey, brocolli, spinach, onion, red pepper, goat cheese, thai peanut sauce

    M4
    pp with ff cream cheese

    M5
    Sludge bowl

    Macros:
    Cals = 1767, fat = 51, carbs = 161, pro = 181
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    Wed April 11th 2012

    Cardio today - ran a 10K on the treadmill. 1 hour and 15 secs. A little bit faster than last week...

    Eats:

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    oats, whites, pumpkin

    M2
    ff greek yogurt
    cocoa
    walnuts

    M3
    egg white omlette with onion, spinach, mozzerella
    brocolli

    M4
    tuna and goat cheese

    M5
    sludge bowl - complete with a Cadbury creme egg

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    Thurs April 12th 2012

    Back and shoulders plus cardio today:

    Pullups
    4*6,5,4,3

    BB Row
    4*5,5,4,4 - 115lbs

    Wide grip pulldown
    3*8,8,6 - 60lbs - I should note here that the cables on my machine are really tight so there is extra resistance here, hence why the weight seems light

    Narrow grip pulldown
    3*10,8,8 - 60lbs

    BNP
    6*5,5,5,4,4,4 - 65lbs - no excuse here. LOL!

    Arnolds
    3*10,8,8 - 25lbs

    BB Shrug
    4*10 - 115lbs

    PM - Cardio - 30 min fartlek run on the treadmill after Logan went to bed. 3.33 miles in total.

    Eats:

    M1
    English muffin with pp and strawberries

    M2
    2 whole eggs plus 4 whites

    M3
    2 whole eggs plus 4 whites
    brocolli, spinach and red peppers

    M4
    Greek yogurt with walnuts

    M5
    I luv my sludge bowl - with another Cadbury creme egg YUMMMMM!

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    Hahaha! I've been eating nightly sludge with Reeses mini peanut butter cups/eggs Chocolate in sludge is awesome!

    My cable machines are the same way!!!!

    Things are looking good in here!
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    Yep.. awesomeness in here!

    When is the end of your contest/when will you start to bulk again?
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    Originally Posted by gobbles23 View Post
    Hahaha! I've been eating nightly sludge with Reeses mini peanut butter cups/eggs Chocolate in sludge is awesome!

    My cable machines are the same way!!!!

    Things are looking good in here!
    Chocolate in ANYTHING is awesome Thanks!

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    Yep.. awesomeness in here!

    When is the end of your contest/when will you start to bulk again?
    Thank you! Contest pics are due by May 26th and I have a photoshoot booked for May 27th...then I am DONE! I am going to go to maintenance until the end of Aug its bulking again....

    So - today's progress report:

    Today is a rest day and weigh in so here it is:

    131.6 Starting weight

    Feb 10 2012 127.2
    feb 17 2012 125.8
    Feb 24 2012 125.6
    March 2 2012 125.2
    March 9 2012 124.4
    March 16 2012 122.4
    March 23 2012 125.2
    March 30 2012 123.6
    April 6 2012 119.6WTF???
    April 13 2012 123.4 another WTF moment! Fukcin scale is all over the place.

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    Wow, you're looking so lean right now, you're gonna be absolutely shredded by the end of May! Your photoshoot will be killer.
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    you look amazing, wouldn't worry about the scale since apparently it needs a mood stabilizer.
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    Wow, you're looking so lean right now, you're gonna be absolutely shredded by the end of May! Your photoshoot will be killer.
    Thanks! I have to admit that I am dissappointed at this point - 10 weeks in and not a hint of a 6 pack. I can see top 4 abs, but only if I flex really hard.......I know....this is so warped and superficial, right? Sometimes I really wish I had never competed and remained just a normal girl who likes to lift....now my "normal" will never be the same. Make sense? Okay, rambling...I'll shut up now..

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    you look amazing, wouldn't worry about the scale since apparently it needs a mood stabilizer.
    LOL! Thanks for visiting

    Today was quads and tris and my log is somewhere in my gym. I am too lazy right now to go get it, so here is a brief recap:

    BB Squats
    14 sets ranging from 6-3 reps and 175-155lbs.

    Tri Dips
    7 sets ranging from 10-6 reps.

    Eats:

    M1
    oats, whites, pumpkin, walnuts and coconut

    M2 - cheat meal - supper out
    Chicken stir fry from the healthy choice menu
    1 glass of red wine
    small piece of birthday cake

    M3
    nightly sludge bowl

    Cals = 1859, fat = 59, carb = 172, pro = 139.

    I have not had meal 3 yet, and I usually eat to maintenance or a bit higher on cheat meal days......but I am still so full from supper that it will be really tough to get in my sludge bowl...
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    Originally Posted by ms_mac View Post
    Thanks! I have to admit that I am dissappointed at this point - 10 weeks in and not a hint of a 6 pack. I can see top 4 abs, but only if I flex really hard.......I know....this is so warped and superficial, right? Sometimes I really wish I had never competed and remained just a normal girl who likes to lift....now my "normal" will never be the same. Make sense? Okay, rambling...I'll shut up now..
    No, no, it makes perfect sense. I've heard someone else say something like this--I dunno if it was on here or somewhere else--but, like, after she competed she was left with this subconscious feeling that her body should look that way all the time, even though consciously she knew that was unrealistic.
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    Originally Posted by dreahere View Post
    No, no, it makes perfect sense. I've heard someone else say something like this--I dunno if it was on here or somewhere else--but, like, after she competed she was left with this subconscious feeling that her body should look that way all the time, even though consciously she knew that was unrealistic.
    Thats it exactly! And I just don't really know how to let go of that unrealistic ideal.......if anyone can help me with that I am all ears

    So, I think the lowered cals are finally catching up with me. Last couple of workouts really sucked and today was no exception. Weight and\or reps dropped with most everything:

    Bench
    6*5,4,3,3,3,2 - 115lbs

    Incline db
    4*10,7,6,6 - 40lbs

    Decline bench
    4*10,7,8,8 - 95lbs

    BB Curl
    4*3 - 75lbs

    DB curl
    3*8,6,6 - 30lbs

    Eats:

    M1
    oats, whites, pumpkin

    M2
    cottage cheese, cocoa, pb

    M3
    spinach strawberry salad with goat cheese and salmon

    M4
    2 whole eggs plus a bunch of whites

    M5
    sludge bowl

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    Mon and Tues April 16th and 17th 2012

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    Sorry your workouts have been feeling weak lately. When is the last time you took a deload???
    I took a deload around the end of Jan. So not too awfully long ago. Think I'm just havin' a crappy week...but I shall continue on

    Yesterday was a cardio day. Dropped my son off at playschool then headed to my favorite trail for a run. 8K in 47:40..

    Today - back and shoulders:

    Pullups
    4*6,5,5,4

    Rows
    4*5 - 115lbs

    WG pulldowns
    3*8,7,6 - 60lbs

    Narrow reverse grip pulldowns
    3*12,10,8 - 60lbs

    BNP
    4*5,5,5,2 - 65lbs
    2*10 - 45lbs

    Arnolds
    3*8 - 25lbs

    DB Shrugs
    4*9,7,6,6 - 50lbs

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    10 km LSD Trail run this morning - 1 hour and 1 sec......1 sec...seriously? UGHHH!
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    Your workout looked great!
    Sorry your not too happy with your 10k time ... although I'd be thrilled heehee
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    I am here....but hope I am not too late.
    I want to support you thru this comp.
    Your foods are interesting

    I read that you are not to happy with your results thus far....what do you think may be the reason?

    and Thank you for visiting Me in my new journal....I can use All the support I can get

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    Thurs April 19th 2012

    Originally Posted by newbeginning828 View Post
    Your workout looked great!
    Sorry your not too happy with your 10k time ... although I'd be thrilled heehee
    Thanks...I used to be able to run a 10K in under an hour...but I'll get there again

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    I am here....but hope I am not too late.
    I want to support you thru this comp.
    Your foods are interesting

    I read that you are not to happy with your results thus far....what do you think may be the reason?

    and Thank you for visiting Me in my new journal....I can use All the support I can get

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    Never too late, chica. Welcome to the party Why am I not happy with my results...good question and one that I don't really have a straight answer for. I guess I am having a hard time because in my warped brain I need to be stage lean when that really isn't the goal - the goal was to just do a small slow cut just enough to see if there has been any muscle growth during my bulk. In looking at my half way pics I think I look "small" and feel like I have made no progress during the bulk. Then I keep comparing progress pics from my last bb comp with them and I am not looking like I am " 6 weeks" out...so I guess double the frustration for me....bulk didn't work and cutting is not going fast enough Having said that I am not willing to tank my metabolism by dropping cals or doing a bunch of cardio to get "stage" lean. Probably none of this makes sense because I am just a rambling, all over the place mess

    Anyway - today was Hammies, calves and abs:

    RDL
    4*5,5,5,3 - 165lbs

    I fought for every freakin' rep on these. Why oh why are my hamms so weak??? How do you all do these anyway? From the floor, legs bent, legs straight?

    DB SLDL
    4*6 - 50lbs

    Leg Curl
    4*12,10,8,8 - 40lbs

    DB Calf Raise
    4*25 - 50lbs

    Decline Leg Raise
    4*15

    Obliques
    3*20 - 25lbs

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    Hey girlfriend....It does make sense, I understand what you mean.
    Frustrations of not seeing what you want to see is always a discouragment.

    I see your weight chart you posted from the beginning of contest till now.
    I can't stand that damn scale! LOL...its suppose to be a tool in progressing, but I find it annoying and rely too much on number..Grr!
    I must keep in in my head that it is just a little part of what my end result wll be.
    ...and yes, my numbers keep jumping up-n-down too...Grr!

    Have you thought of changing your diet....not so much dropping cals, but changing what you are eating.
    If youre not seeing results this many weeks into your contest, maybe your diet needs tweaked.
    Do you have someone working with you? (PT/Dietition?)
    ...just thinking and trying to help you out

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    I lift the barbell off the floor, and then bring it down to about mid-shin with my knees slightly bent for each rep rather than return it to the floor after each. Apparently- SLDL you bring the bar to the floor each time, but for RDL you don't. Kimm4 posted an awesome article on the subject in Pharty's journal a while back:

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    I lift the barbell off the floor, and then bring it down to about mid-shin with my knees slightly bent for each rep rather than return it to the floor after each.
    Same, except I start with the bar on the pins, not from the floor. 'Cause that's how Liz taught me and I just do whatever she says, LOL.

    I thought I was doing SLDL, but apparently they were RDl
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    Originally Posted by Buffycat3 View Post
    Hey girlfriend....It does make sense, I understand what you mean.
    Frustrations of not seeing what you want to see is always a discouragment.

    I see your weight chart you posted from the beginning of contest till now.
    I can't stand that damn scale! LOL...its suppose to be a tool in progressing, but I find it annoying and rely too much on number..Grr!
    I must keep in in my head that it is just a little part of what my end result wll be.
    ...and yes, my numbers keep jumping up-n-down too...Grr!

    Have you thought of changing your diet....not so much dropping cals, but changing what you are eating.
    If youre not seeing results this many weeks into your contest, maybe your diet needs tweaked.
    Do you have someone working with you? (PT/Dietition?)
    ...just thinking and trying to help you out

    Keep at it Girl...you can do it!
    Thats the thing.....I don't want to change anything, but I want the progress too. Double edge sword I am making progress...just really really slowly. And I am just not seeing any muscle growth. Thinking maybe I need a more aggressive bulk next time? Or maybe I am just genetically not meant to be a bodybuilder Yup, I played the genetics card...LOL!

    Originally Posted by gobbles23 View Post
    I lift the barbell off the floor, and then bring it down to about mid-shin with my knees slightly bent for each rep rather than return it to the floor after each. Apparently- SLDL you bring the bar to the floor each time, but for RDL you don't. Kimm4 posted an awesome article on the subject in Pharty's journal a while back:

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/tra...l-vs-sldl.html

    I thought I was doing SLDL, but apparently they were RDl
    Well then I don't know what the hell I am doing. I am pulling from the floor every rep, knees bent. Thought these were RDL's. I always thought SLDL meant "straight leg deadlift"...which is what I do with dumbells...sooooo confused now..

    Originally Posted by dreahere View Post
    Same, except I start with the bar on the pins, not from the floor. 'Cause that's how Liz taught me and I just do whatever she says, LOL.



    Same.
    Good to know I am not the only one...

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    SLDL, bar goes to the floor with each rep. RDL, bar stops around mid-shin with each rep. When you pull from a pin, depending on where pin is set...that could fall under the category of a rack dead.

    I don't care which one you do, they're all awesome!

    I completely get what you're feeling...been there a million times. How much weight did you gain during your bulk? How many miles a week do you run?

    It's more difficult trying to build when you're a runner. It can be done...but it's hard to master the best of both worlds.

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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    SLDL, bar goes to the floor with each rep. RDL, bar stops around mid-shin with each rep. When you pull from a pin, depending on where pin is set...that could fall under the category of a rack dead.

    I don't care which one you do, they're all awesome!

    I completely get what you're feeling...been there a million times. How much weight did you gain during your bulk? How many miles a week do you run?

    It's more difficult trying to build when you're a runner. It can be done...but it's hard to master the best of both worlds.

    I hope you have a nice weekend.
    I was hoping you'd pop in with some expert advice. So is there one that is superior to the others? I started my bulk at 115lbs and finished at 131 - so 16 lbs in 15 months, which seems about right? About a pound a month...I only just incorporated running back into the mix...while I was bulking I did barely any cardio - 2 20 min sessions a week..I really enjoy it though and have really missed it, so I figure what the hell - if I am not going any muscle mass might as well start running again. I am still not running huge mileage or anything though. One 5 miler and one longer run. Last couple have been 10 k, but will go a bit longer each week now. Thinking I may run a half marathon and hubby and I are thinking about doing a Tough Mudder in July.
    Just curious about your opinion on the genetics issue - does that really play a part in the muscle building progress? Am I not working hard enough, eating enough....what did I do wrong?

    So today is quads and tri's. And I am craving Chinese! Chinese buffet for my treat today? I probably won't because I eat WAY TOO MUCH at buffets but, man, it sure sounds good..
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    This is an interesting read, if I haven't posted it here before:

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...potential.html

    But I don't think it's genetics at the point you're at. Maybe try something different next time you bulk? More volume, less volume, higher reps, lower reps, what were you doing for your last bulk??? Were you doing PMB???? More importantly- how often were you increasing the weight/reps?? Did you make many PR's??? How often were you progressing??
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    Obviously I know nothing about nothing, but the only point I want to make about genetics is that you do have that tall, lanky body type. If you and I were both to gain a half pound of muscle on our arms, it would be more visible on me just because my muscle bellies are probably 3 or 4 inches shorter than yours and the half pound would be spread out on a lot less area. (Seriously, only advantage to my stubby little limbs. It's why I have that body dysmorphia where I walk around thinking I'm more swole than I really am. ) So, I don't think you're genetically disadvantaged in growing muscle; I just think that someone like you with those long muscle bellies needs to put on a lot more mass comparatively before they look, excuse the term, bulky. Plus, I think you may be being a little too hard on yourself. When I looked at your progress pictures compared to the pre-bulk, objectively it looked to me as if you *did* put a bunch of mass on your quads. Can you see that? Or is it just not as much as you had hoped?
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    ^^I've thought about that too! More space to cover Plus- this IS a slow progress. Especially after newbie gains are gone
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    Originally Posted by gobbles23 View Post
    This is an interesting read, if I haven't posted it here before:

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/mus...potential.html

    But I don't think it's genetics at the point you're at. Maybe try something different next time you bulk? More volume, less volume, higher reps, lower reps, what were you doing for your last bulk??? Were you doing PMB???? More importantly- how often were you increasing the weight/reps?? Did you make many PR's??? How often were you progressing??
    Thanks for the article. I will read through when I have some time to focus My last bulk I did a variety of programs - PMB, VRT, Max OT and GVT. Strength was increasing regularly. Lifting 4 days a week, barely any cardio, eating heaps....my only downfall is sleep. I never get more than about 6 hours of sleep a night..but that has really always been the case. I have been thinking about my next bulk and I am going to do some research but will for sure try something different. Maybe a 3 day FB split....I am keeping cardio in this time though. I know...some of you are rolling your eyes at me . Thats okay. I have missed running. Its something I truly enjoy. So I am going to do my best to make both bb'ing and running work...

    Originally Posted by dreahere View Post
    Obviously I know nothing about nothing, but the only point I want to make about genetics is that you do have that tall, lanky body type. If you and I were both to gain a half pound of muscle on our arms, it would be more visible on me just because my muscle bellies are probably 3 or 4 inches shorter than yours and the half pound would be spread out on a lot less area. (Seriously, only advantage to my stubby little limbs. It's why I have that body dysmorphia where I walk around thinking I'm more swole than I really am. ) So, I don't think you're genetically disadvantaged in growing muscle; I just think that someone like you with those long muscle bellies needs to put on a lot more mass comparatively before they look, excuse the term, bulky. Plus, I think you may be being a little too hard on yourself. When I looked at your progress pictures compared to the pre-bulk, objectively it looked to me as if you *did* put a bunch of mass on your quads. Can you see that? Or is it just not as much as you had hoped?
    I never really thought about that - having more space to cover. Makes sense though. I just looked again at my pics - I am really not seeing much difference. Maybe I am being too hard on myself......I need to stop this pity party and get a fukcin' grip!

    Originally Posted by gobbles23 View Post
    ^^I've thought about that too! More space to cover Plus- this IS a slow progress. Especially after newbie gains are gone
    Slow is right and nope, no newbie gains for me.

    Thanks girls! I really needed this today.

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