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    How should i take my BCAA (SciVation Xtend), my protein and my creatine?

    Hi, it's been a month i'm taking my protein. Today i received my BCAA (SciVation Xtend) and Cellucor C4 Extreme (Creatine) but i'm kind of new taking these stuff. I would like to get bigger. normally i take a shake of protein in the morning and after my workout, but can i mix my protein with BCAA and creatine without having a bad effect? when should i take my BCAA(and how much a day) and creatine (and how much a day)?

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    Why are you wanting to take whey and BCAAs? Whey contains BCAAs
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    take bcaa's every 3 hours in addition to whey and casin before bed. Also would add animal pak for micronutrients
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    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Why are you wanting to take whey and BCAAs? Whey contains BCAAs
    I do alot of cardio, i'm loosing my muscular mass, i want it in bigger quantaty.

    thanks for the reply.
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    Originally Posted by eliasdaou View Post
    I do alot of cardio, i'm loosing my muscular mass, i want it in bigger quantaty.

    thanks for the reply.
    And what's your diet consist of? How much calories? Protein?
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    For the extend I do half a scoop in between meals (I do 4 or 5 larger meals a day) and a full scoop which I sip during workout and drink the rest post (mostly all post), that's how you should take it. I do creatine mono daily post workout. Whey I just use to hit my protein numbers and for convinience. I'd worry about diet first before any supplements though.
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    ^ That's a terrible article as the single citation listed does NOT even remotely support the author's position, but rather, does just the opposite.



    Originally Posted by AlwaysTryin View Post
    Why are you wanting to take whey and BCAAs? Whey contains BCAAs
    I bet the OP doesn't know this...or that many foods are protein rich and high in BCAA's.
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    That's the guy who made this video

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    protein and creatnie, take whenever.
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    That's the guy who made this video

    is it just me or is he advising to take 80 plus pills DURING a workout? I am king of taking pills (yes I take 25+ vitmans a day) but this video is on a whole other level! I'd puking for sure.
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    yeah, that was my point. I wouldn't be following him for supplement advice

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    take 25+ vitmans a day
    ^^ Seriously? Why? Just how deficient is your diet that you need so many vitamins?
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    is it just me or is he advising to take 80 plus pills DURING a workout? I am king of taking pills (yes I take 25+ vitmans a day) but this video is on a whole other level! I'd puking for sure.
    lol, yea someone (i think vince del monte) was on ******** bragging about how he took 80 bcaa pills during his workout.

    got called out, used shytty studies to support it, launched into personal attacks.

    so many lulz
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    ^^ Seriously? Why? Just how deficient is your diet that you need so many vitamins?
    Oh come on don't be so condescending like it's such a bad thing and my diet is so bad and deficient. It's not that bad if you break it down....

    multivitamin- 2 pills
    multimineral- 3 pills
    vitamin D- 5 pills
    garlic- 8 pills
    NAC- 2 pills
    Green Foods Pills- 12 Pills
    Fish oil- 6 pills

    So I'm taking roughly 38 pills a day unless I drink the green drink which brings it down. The green pills, NAC, Vitamin D, Fish Oil, and Garlic which are 33 out of the 38 pills have been an addition over the last 2 years in response to some bloodwork with elevated liver values, higher cholesterol and bp and low vitamin D. The results have been nothing shy of astonishing. I need 8-10,000 iu's of Vitamin D a day to stay in an optimal range.

    I get my bloodwork done every 3 months and every supplement, in every dose was added in very pragmatic way, one by one, without changing other variables to test the results.

    I get the the tone of your post but not all of us are just radomly grabbing vitamins and praying they do something. Everything has a very distinct purpose. I don't think I get get my liver values, blood pressure, or cholesterol high if I wanted to at this point.

    this is what I ate yesterday at 11 weeks out from a contest I don't think it is too deficient


    meal 1
    3 eggs
    8 egg whites
    1 serving oats
    1 small apple

    meal 2
    2 cups kale
    1/2 container mushrooms
    1/4 onion
    6 ounces cooked chicken
    2 serving olive oil
    1 serving white rice

    meal 3
    7 ounces steak
    bag of steamed brocolli
    6 ounce sweet potatoe

    meal 4
    protein shake
    2 scoops whey isolate
    2 servings oats
    1 serving almonds

    meal 5
    2 cups kale
    1/2 container mushrooms
    6 ounces cooked chicken
    1/4 onion
    1 serving olive oil
    1 serving white rice

    Meal 6
    1 serving oats
    1 serving mac nut oil
    1.5 scoops whey protein isolate
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    Oh come on don't be so condescending like it's such a bad thing and my diet is so bad and deficient. It's not that bad if you break it down....

    multivitamin- 2 pills
    multimineral- 3 pills
    vitamin D- 5 pills
    garlic- 8 pills
    NAC- 2 pills
    Green Foods Pills- 12 Pills
    Fish oil- 6 pills

    So I'm taking roughly 38 pills a day unless I drink the green drink which brings it down. The green pills, NAC, Vitamin D, Fish Oil, and Garlic which are 33 out of the 38 pills have been an addition over the last 2 years in response to some bloodwork with elevated liver values, higher cholesterol and bp and low vitamin D. The results have been nothing shy of astonishing. I need 8-10,000 iu's of Vitamin D a day to stay in an optimal range.

    I get my bloodwork done every 3 months and every supplement, in every dose was added in very pragmatic way, one by one, without changing other variables to test the results.

    I get the the tone of your post but not all of us are just radomly grabbing vitamins and praying they do something. Everything has a very distinct purpose. I don't think I get get my liver values, blood pressure, or cholesterol high if I wanted to at this point.

    this is what I ate yesterday at 11 weeks out from a contest I don't think it is too deficient


    meal 1
    3 eggs
    8 egg whites
    1 serving oats
    1 small apple

    meal 2
    2 cups kale
    1/2 container mushrooms
    1/4 onion
    6 ounces cooked chicken
    2 serving olive oil
    1 serving white rice

    meal 3
    7 ounces steak
    bag of steamed brocolli
    6 ounce sweet potatoe

    meal 4
    protein shake
    2 scoops whey isolate
    2 servings oats
    1 serving almonds

    meal 5
    2 cups kale
    1/2 container mushrooms
    6 ounces cooked chicken
    1/4 onion
    1 serving olive oil
    1 serving white rice

    Meal 6
    1 serving oats
    1 serving mac nut oil
    1.5 scoops whey protein isolate


    You do know you don't need to eat 6 meals a day right?
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    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    Oh come on don't be so condescending like it's such a bad thing and my diet is so bad and deficient. It's not that bad if you break it down....
    I don't mean to offend you.

    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    So I'm taking roughly 38 pills a day
    Wow. That is more than many elderly people with medical conditions.

    Originally Posted by Flex500 View Post
    ... 33 out of the 38 pills have been an addition over the last 2 years in response to some bloodwork with elevated liver values, higher cholesterol and bp and low vitamin D. The results have been nothing shy of astonishing.
    I have to agree that I am also astonished. Your diet does not seem like it would warrant such massive amounts of pills. While I would personally choose more variety in veggies, I assume that you listed an example and I bet you eat more than just kale, mushrooms and broccoli as veggies, but even if you didn't, it's not like your diet is glaringly void of typical micronutrients. Is your doctor suggesting you take all of those pills? Do you have some medical condition?
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    Originally Posted by lee__d View Post
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    protein and creatnie, take whenever.
    Really? I bought some and haven't yet taken it & I've just started bulking. I imagine it'd help, but is the number so small that it really is just mental masturbation?
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    Originally Posted by SoloX5 View Post
    You do know you don't need to eat 6 meals a day right?
    You know you can eat 6 meals a day?

    For the op, you don't need to take the BCAA, taking them with whey protein is a waste of money. The only time they have been useful to me is while following leangains.com intermittent fasting I would take 10g before my workout.
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    Originally Posted by SoloX5 View Post
    You do know you don't need to eat 6 meals a day right?
    He's 250 pounds. How many times a day would you have to eat to get that number of calories in without gastric discomfort? Let's try some thought regarding the entire situation before responding.

    I am curious what the the hell these green food pills are.
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    He's 250 pounds. How many times a day would you have to eat to get that number of calories in without gastric discomfort? Let's try some thought regarding the entire situation before responding.
    It's not atypical for people like Flex500 with BMI's >39 to eat more than six times per day
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    Originally Posted by WonderPug View Post
    It's not atypical for people like Flex500 with BMI's >39 to eat more than six times per day
    Oh yea, that's what I meant . I do 3 + snacks and I'm just barely creeping towards 200. Anything over 200 and I would probably need at least 4 full.
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    That's the guy who made this video

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