Statistically you are less likely to succeed with Leangains

[SimonThePieman]

read it and weap, eat your breakfast

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...as-lose-weight


TBH, i'm posting this just to stoke a fire and show there are loads of flimsy studies (peer reviewed or not) that can be used to back up any point of view.

[illiniStrive]

First read the comment as "stroke the fire" and lol'd.

ok I go read now

[sawoobley]

Computer simulations and epidemiological studies .

[DarthInvadeHer]

Weight loss plateaus only because people forget they need to reassess their needs. You can lose weight indefinitely until you die. As far as Lean Gains go, the approach is simple, but it's like keto. There are LG followers who think they will lose weight without being in deficit...

Dis dis dis.

[Geoloop]

Computer simulations and epidemiological studies .

this.

[JeffyDOS]

They find that people who did lose the weight also did all the other stuff (eat breakfast, watch less tv, etc).

All that is saying is there is a correlation, not necessarily causation. Correlational studies don't do it for me.

[SimonThePieman]

They find that people who did lose the weight also did all the other stuff (eat breakfast, watch less tv, etc).

All that is saying is there is a correlation, not necessarily causation. Correlational studies don't do it for me.

the ironic thing is Martin does the same on his site

[SimonThePieman]

Hard core LG followers are brotastical, in the sense they believe some really derpy stuff. One of the few things we seem to agree on. lol

The odd thing is I agree with most of your principle. You just have this weird habit of reading things and your brain turning it into something else.

we seem to be getting on better now regardless

[determined4000]

They find that people who did lose the weight also did all the other stuff (eat breakfast, watch less tv, etc).

All that is saying is there is a correlation, not necessarily causation. Correlational studies don't do it for me.

so no studies would interest you. You do know you can never prove causation, right? no such thing as a "causation" study, so you are always left with correlation

[JeffyDOS]

the ironic thing is Martin does the same on his site

TBH I have never read any of the studies. I do IF because I like eating big meals. Not because I believe there are benefits or anything of that sort. I sort of feel like if anything, it hinders my concentration at school. I still love doing it since my hunger is curbed til 2-3.


@determined studies interest interest me but don't convince me. experimentation convinces me

[SimonThePieman]

so no studies would interest you. You do know you can never prove causation, right? no such thing as a "causation" study, so you are always left with correlation

correct, there is no such thing as causation without correlation too. Bare that in mind

[SuffolkPunch]

The way I read it, Martin often mentions studies in an off-the-cuff way when they might support his point of view. I don't read into it that he considers them proof absolute. This is true (for example) of his views on coffee causing all kinds of positive health benefits. He just likes coffee and is just shooting the breeze about it. I don't think he's that serious and wouldn't go recommending putting coffee in the water supply or anything like that.

As ever, it's always open to interpretation by his readers who can easily read too much significance into parts of what he says.

[joelash302]

Don't you be hatin on coffee.

[midcoastking33]

Breakfast will be the first thing I cut out when trying to lose weight, bam! 500 calories out the window which are all primarily simple processed carbs

[Ashlei]

I love breakfast, and eating 3 meals a day plus snacks. Come at me haters.

Nah, but to each his own. I prefer variety and small meals instead of large meals of the same foods. Fits my lifestyle though. And no tupperware was carried around.

IF just helps people eat bigger meals while maintaining a deficit, but I don't think it has anything special over other methods of dieting.

[ko300zx]

read it and weap, eat your breakfast

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandsty...as-lose-weight


TBH, i'm posting this just to stoke a fire and show there are loads of flimsy studies (peer reviewed or not) that can be used to back up any point of view.

It finds that people who manage to keep weight off eat breakfast, weigh themselves once a week, watch less than 10 hours of television a week and exercise about an hour a day. If you do all of those things as well as cut your calorie intake, you won't need to measure if your diet is working or not. You'll know that it is.

A doctor....lol.

[HollywoodJohn]

Weight loss plateaus only because people forget they need to reassess their needs. You can lose weight indefinitely until you die. As far as Lean Gains go, the approach is simple, but it's like keto. There are LG followers who think they will lose weight without being in deficit...

And what's their genius base for this?

[vitornoob]

Dis dis dis.

Dat dat dat!

Hard core LG followers are brotastical, in the sense they believe some really derpy stuff. One of the few things we seem to agree on. lol

Agree...a lot LG followers are cycling macros and CHO like madness, undereating like -30 or 40% from their maintenance off days, eating 20g CHO, thinking that the body turns from a muscle building state to a fat burning
A lot do Paleo, because it is magic!!!

There are a LOT just wanting to get 5% bf, but they do not have any muscle under it...it keep claiming that they abs are not showing, or something like that

16 Old year boys eating 1600kcal Off days...trolololo

I was having a discussion at LG page, because a guy said that you can not get ripped without leangains, dafuq?

it is pretty sad...I was talking with someone and we came to a new logo for Leangains: ''Leangains, developing eating disorders since 2007''

Pretty sad!

[JasonDB]

I stopped at workout 30 mins a day... this is full ****gy time information and not applicable to anyone with serious training goals. Sounds like some HIT Jedi garbage.

[greekmanman]

Dat dat dat!



Agree...a lot LG followers are cycling macros and CHO like madness, undereating like -30 or 40% from their maintenance off days, eating 20g CHO, thinking that the body turns from a muscle building state to a fat burning
A lot do Paleo, because it is magic!!!

There are a LOT just wanting to get 5% bf, but they do not have any muscle under it...it keep claiming that they abs are not showing, or something like that

16 Old year boys eating 1600kcal Off days...trolololo

I was having a discussion at LG page, because a guy said that you can not get ripped without leangains, dafuq?

it is pretty sad...I was talking with someone and we came to a new logo for Leangains: ''Leangains, developing eating disorders since 2007''

Pretty sad!

LOL aware^

And what's their genius base for this?

Oh hey there, sir.