Official Arnold Classic Play by Play thread

[NJPUMP21912]

The ifbb just screwed Dennis and Evan out of thousands of dollars for the sake of creating a feel good story.

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Branch's and Dex's careers are slowly dwindling down. I don't see Branch winning another major show. Wolf will never win a big show either unless he gets calf implants.

[HOCH]

Yeah man, swear & use poor form for uber muscle density & hardness.
I know for a fact Phil swears & smashes a plate on the ground for each calorie he goes beneath maintenance, thats why he so ripped.
BTW you need full r.o.m for powerlifting otherwise they dont count the lift as completed, not sure about Branch's powerlifting experience. I know his training partner JoJ has official competitive experience, but didn't know about 'Branch'. Hey, you learn something everyday I guess.

I don't know why this is such a radical concept to suggest that the longer someone trains, and if they use heavier weight, their muscularity is more dense. I am not necessarily saying that how heavy you train makes it more dense WHILE you are dieting. It is obviously a long term thing. Yes, conditioning for a show is a matter of proper diet and prep. However, when you look at someone like Johnny Jackson or Branch, I do think they have a more dense appearance. There is no need to go off on me; I am allowed to have an opinion.

[delineator]

I don't know why this is such a radical concept to suggest that the longer someone trains, and if they use heavier weight, their muscularity is more dense. I am not necessarily saying that how heavy you train makes it more dense WHILE you are dieting. It is obviously a long term thing. Yes, conditioning for a show is a matter of proper diet and prep. However, when you look at someone like Johnny Jackson or Branch, I do think they have a more dense appearance. There is no need to go off on me; I am allowed to have an opinion.

Yeah man, Jonnie Jackson & the killer quads he developed through squatting at powerlifting meets.

[wjs010]

Yeah man, Jonnie Jackson & the killer quads he developed through squatting at powerlifting meets.

Lolz not having genetics sucks

[ZidaneValor]

By the way, why was there no 212 contest?

[Rambo26]

By the way, why was there no 212 contest?

Well there's never been a 202 one, I've not heard it suggested either

[str8flexed]

Oh hey just checking back in on this collapsing thread with ignorant comments as people complain

[thisonefoo]

wow.. just wow!

[HOCH]

Yeah man, Jonnie Jackson & the killer quads he developed through squatting at powerlifting meets.

First of all, why do you need to be rude? I am not allowed to even have an opinion? I hardly have ever seen any videos of Johnny Jackson squat, so I can't comment. Yes, his legs are underdeveloped. However, I have seen a lot of videos of him deadlifting impressive numbers, and look at his traps and back. This is why I rarely come on these forums or get involved anyway. The level of maturity on here is so low it's pathetic. I don't know how Layne deals with it.

[HOCH]

Oh hey just checking back in on this collapsing thread with ignorant comments as people complain

Yup, you're not allowed to have an opinion on anything, I forgot.

[str8flexed]

Yup, you're not allowed to have an opinion on anything, I forgot.

yea, I love how people look at johnnie jackson's quads and automatically assume squatting doesn't work. First off I was not aware that he was a big time squatter. Secondly, you can squat all you want, but it's not going to change your muscle belly shape/length and where they insert

[bballbrett5]

Layne how drastic is the difference viewing a show like this in person versus watching a streaming video/viewing pictures after the fact? Are you ever surprised to see what people's opinions are on a show based on what you're seeing right in front of you?

[HOCH]

yea, I love how people look at johnnie jackson's quads and automatically assume squatting doesn't work. First off I was not aware that he was a big time squatter. Secondly, you can squat all you want, but it's not going to change your muscle belly shape/length and where they insert

If you are to do a google or youtube search of Johnny Jackson squats, virtually nothing comes up. Plenty of deadlift videos come up. I have not seen many videos of him squatting, so I can't comment, so for people to look at his quads and assume squatting doesn't work is ridiculous because he doesn't even seem to squat that much. The same applies for Stan Efferding. Yes, he squats huge numbers in competition, using a super wide powerlifting stance and in all fairness a lot of back. However, at least he does squat. Nevertheless, I have yet to find an exercise that stimulates the quads as much as LOW squats, especially if you do not lock out at the top (like Ronnie used to do). I'm not allowed to have an opinion, though, Layne, and neither can you. Having a PhD and being a pro doesn't mean anything. All that matters is broscience, duh.

[str8flexed]

Layne how drastic is the difference viewing a show like this in person versus watching a streaming video/viewing pictures after the fact? Are you ever surprised to see what people's opinions are on a show based on what you're seeing right in front of you?

good question, I can say for a fact that the webcast makes people look MORE conditioned than they really are. They had the webcast up on the big screens in the auditorium. So in person I actually thought wolf should have been lower based on his sub par conditioning compared to the rest of the top 4. I would have had him 3rd. So yea, it is often somewhat different in person

[HOCH]

good question, I can say for a fact that the webcast makes people look MORE conditioned than they really are. They had the webcast up on the big screens in the auditorium. So in person I actually thought wolf should have been lower based on his sub par conditioning compared to the rest of the top 4. I would have had him 3rd. So yea, it is often somewhat different in person

That's an interesting point, because a lot of the time you have people say that pros look more ridiculous in person, and obviously in many ways they really are. I haven't really considered the point you just raised.

[Tomus999]

Branch looks better in movies then on pictures, by a large margin lol

[str8flexed]

That's an interesting point, because a lot of the time you have people say that pros look more ridiculous in person, and obviously in many ways they really are. I haven't really considered the point you just raised.

in person backstage yes.

when you see them backstage individually you look at each one and say 'jeez how could that guy ever lose?'

[str8flexed]

really? that's very interesting. tell us more about yourself

[tsiparlanaeht]

really? that's very interesting. tell us more about yourself

Layne can you please tell us about some zomg wtf look at him moments you've had backstage at events where guys blew your mind conditioning/size wise?

Cheers

[str8flexed]

Honestly Branch has been very impressive. Looks crazy grainy, even moreso in person. But honestly the biggest wtf moment was in golds gym the thursday before the olympia in 2007. Dennis Wolf was a relative unknown at the time and he was in there working out in a tank top and Derek Charlebois and me looked at each other like 'dude... WTF is that????' LOL. I believe he got like 4th or 5th that night and created a ton of buzz.