Where does RG3 go in draft?

[John2285]

That dude seems cool as sheet. Where you guys think he goes?

[JM2412]

Top 350.

edit: top 3.50

[Bowyermania]

Number 2 to the Redskins.

[problemz]

2nd

[John2285]

Srry dudes didn't see duplicate thread

[John2285]

Word skins make sense

[joelz54_99]

I honestly think he is better than Luck. I wouldnt be shocked if he went #1.

[LikeAMachine]

I honestly think he is better than Luck. I wouldnt be shocked if he went #1.

Doomed for failure. Lol


All I know is I hope the Browns trade out of the 4 spot, by out I mean DOWN, TRADE DOWN, griffin=do not want. Not sold on him. Spread qb. No real play book [look it up]. Gimmicky offense. Not enough snaps under center. Skinny legs and arms. Shorter than desired. Doesn't fit the WCO. Will take time to develop.


Beyond Luck, there is a serious drop off in top level talent…UNLIKE last year which was a god damn top 5 smorgasbord.

[lsiberian]

Doomed for failure. Lol
All I know is I hope the Browns trade out of the 4 spot, by out I mean DOWN, TRADE DOWN, griffin=do not want. Not sold on him. Spread qb. No real play book [look it up]. Gimmicky offense. Not enough snaps under center. Skinny legs and arms. Shorter than desired. Doesn't fit the WCO. Will take time to develop.
Beyond Luck, there is a serious drop off in top level talent…UNLIKE last year which was a god damn top 5 smorgasbord.

Not sure if srs. RG3 has the best deep ball I've seen in a long time.

[LikeAMachine]

Not sure if srs. RG3 has the best deep ball I've seen in a long time.

How did you take something about his deep ball from what I wrote?

[iamgenus]

How did you take something about his deep ball from what I wrote?

skinny arms?

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[IawI]

Doomed for failure. Lol


All I know is I hope the Browns trade out of the 4 spot, by out I mean DOWN, TRADE DOWN, griffin=do not want. Not sold on him. Spread qb. No real play book [look it up]. Gimmicky offense. Not enough snaps under center. Skinny legs and arms. Shorter than desired. Doesn't fit the WCO. Will take time to develop.


Beyond Luck, there is a serious drop off in top level talent…UNLIKE last year which was a god damn top 5 smorgasbord.

start at 1:25

[problemz]

Doomed for failure. Lol


All I know is I hope the Browns trade out of the 4 spot, by out I mean DOWN, TRADE DOWN, griffin=do not want. Not sold on him. Spread qb. No real play book [look it up]. Gimmicky offense. Not enough snaps under center. Skinny legs and arms. Shorter than desired. Doesn't fit the WCO. Will take time to develop.


Beyond Luck, there is a serious drop off in top level talent…UNLIKE last year which was a god damn top 5 smorgasbord.

I look at it different.
-Smart
-Athletic
-Canon for a arm and can make any throw
-6ft2 is now short.Oh I forgot every QB has to be 6"5
-Natural leader
- He was sacked 27 times behind a very ****ty oline and managed to play the entire season apart from taking a head shot that he got a concussion for. Even though he was ready to come back in.


Yes this guy has huge bust written all over him. Anyone in the NFL can become a bust but to think this guy has no shot is laughable.

You might be right about him not fitting the WCO in Clev but he would fit in very nicely in DC and would be a game 1 starter. I just hope if he is the one we are going after it works out where we don't have to trade up to get him.

start at 1:25

Saw that last night. Yup screams bust

edit-hahah Son of Washington. That's our blog
http://sonofwashington.com/

[bustermac]

Second pick to Washington.

Fisher and Shanahan are close friends...he'll give Shanny a deal. SRS

[problemz]

Second pick to Washington.

Fisher and Shanahan are close friends...he'll give Shanny a deal. SRS

Someone has been reading ES.com

[bustermac]

Someone has been reading ES.com

Nope. Hate that dumpster, never go there.

Allen and Shanahan are draft day wizards. Took 5 crappy picks left over by Vinny Cerrato last year and ended up with 15 total picks and one of the most solid drafts in the league in terms of contributors.

If they want anyone, they WILL get them.

RG3 will be in B&G. I was interested in Peyton Manning slightly until his latest "noodle arm" workout. He scares me...should be throwing better than he is.

Lets not gamble on Manning...lets lock up RG3 for a decade of domination.

[DCocK]

2nd or 4th

[Dudeicus]

I thought the Rams get 2nd pick. How do the Skins get 2nd pick? someone aware me.

[cor030]

I thought the Rams get 2nd pick. How do the Skins get 2nd pick? someone aware me.

It's expected that the Rams will hold an auction and trade the #2 pick to whichever team wants RGIII.

I think he's gonna be a good QB, worthy of the #2 pick. I don't think he'll have a rookie year like Cam's, but I think he will be very, very good.

[problemz]

Nope. Hate that dumpster, never go there.

Allen and Shanahan are draft day wizards. Took 5 crappy picks left over by Vinny Cerrato last year and ended up with 15 total picks and one of the most solid drafts in the league in terms of contributors.

If they want anyone, they WILL get them.

RG3 will be in B&G. I was interested in Peyton Manning slightly until his latest "noodle arm" workout. He scares me...should be throwing better than he is.

Lets not gamble on Manning...lets lock up RG3 for a decade of domination.

Totally agree 100%

I thought the Rams get 2nd pick. How do the Skins get 2nd pick? someone aware me.

Rumors are Rams will trade down since they have so much invested in top picks over the years. They need to trade down acquire more picks and build the team for much cheaper. So it's Browns/Redskins who most consider the ones that will land RG3. QB is a bigger need for Washington then Clev so most "fans" think RG3 will be in DC.

[sircharles032]

All I know is I hope the Browns trade out of the 4 spot, by out I mean DOWN, TRADE DOWN, griffin=do not want. Not sold on him. Spread qb. No real play book [look it up]. Gimmicky offense. Not enough snaps under center. Skinny legs and arms. Shorter than desired. Doesn't fit the WCO. Will take time to develop.

Cam had these and a lot more doubts... That turned out pretty well. This guy physically is unreal. Has an incredible arm. Confident and intelligent. He'll be a leader. If the Panthers hadn't landed Cam last year I'd have been more than happy with us selling the farm to get this guy.

[IawI]

Cam had these and a lot more doubts... That turned out pretty well. This guy physically is unreal. Has an incredible arm. Confident and intelligent. He'll be a leader. If the Panthers hadn't landed Cam last year I'd have been more than happy with us selling the farm to get this guy.

Newton came into a situation where he was surrounded by offensive talent. These RGIII/Newton comparisons are going to get old real quick.

[cor030]

Newton came into a situation where he was surrounded by offensive talent. These RGIII/Newton comparisons are going to get old real quick.

I'm not sure he was comparing them, just noting that ESPN's evaluations of a guy are about as accurate and reliable as a sports miscers.

[problemz]

just noting that ESPN's evaluations of a guy are about as accurate and reliable as a sports miscers.

Sports Miscers>ESPN

Kinda srs..

[2 D]

LOL @ people who buy into the hype of athletic QBs.

Pocket QBs > Athletic QBs

Just look at how Vick has only finished like 1-2 seasons in his entire career. The guy who is most accurate and gets rid of the ball quickest, usually are the guys who have the 8-12 year careers like Mannings, Brees, Brady etc.

Luck is what the ideal #1 QB SHOULD look like coming out of college. No big questions anywhere, if he isn't successful it is because he is going to a team that is in dire need of everything right away. Luck can make all the throws RGIII can and moves around the pocket real well too, brb making reads and adjustments some of the pro's don't while still in college. Also with all the rules now protecting QBs and receivers, pocket QBs have more protection than the dudes who take off with it. Stats are getting bigger for a reason, Luck is tailored to these new rules. RGIII will get banged around a lot.

[sircharles032]

Newton came into a situation where he was surrounded by offensive talent. These RGIII/Newton comparisons are going to get old real quick.

Not comparing them at all. I just wanted to make the point that people doubted Cam because of the same things that are being said about RG3. Yes, Cam was put into a good situation (which is unusual for a top pick QB) but let's not pretend like it was the talent surrounding him that led him to having a good year. He made the reads and throws that at this time last year everyone was doubting he could do. That's the only comparison that I draw between him and Griffin. The doubters are saying the same things. Sometimes we never learn from our mistakes.

I'm not sure he was comparing them, just noting that ESPN's evaluations of a guy are about as accurate and reliable as a sports miscers.

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[problemz]

if he isn't successful it is because he is going to a team that is in dire need of everything right away

So if he goes to Indy..

[cor030]

LOL @ people who buy into the hype of athletic QBs.

Pocket QBs > Athletic QBs

Just look at how Vick has only finished like 1-2 seasons in his entire career. The guy who is most accurate and gets rid of the ball quickest, usually are the guys who have the 8-12 year careers like Mannings, Brees, Brady etc.

Luck is what the ideal #1 QB SHOULD look like coming out of college. No big questions anywhere, if he isn't successful it is because he is going to a team that is in dire need of everything right away. Luck can make all the throws RGIII can and moves around the pocket real well too, brb making reads and adjustments some of the pro's don't while still in college. Also with all the rules now protecting QBs and receivers, pocket QBs have more protection than the dudes who take off with it. Stats are getting bigger for a reason, Luck is tailored to these new rules. RGIII will get banged around a lot.

Who says RGIII can't be a pocket QB?

Just because someone is athletic doesn't mean they're automatically going to be Vick and be a runner over passer. Rodgers is athletic(albeit not on RGIII's level) and he's an elite quarterback.

[LikeAMachine]

start at 1:25

Lol some of you are so stupid. Wtf does how much he squats and that he works out have to do with what I said? I could give two ****s about a mobile QB, especially one who isn’t a physical beast like Cam Newton, this dude is like 30-40lbs lighter.

I look at it different.
-Smart
-Athletic
-Canon for a arm and can make any throw
-6ft2 is now short.Oh I forgot every QB has to be 6"5
-Natural leader
- He was sacked 27 times behind a very ****ty oline and managed to play the entire season apart from taking a head shot that he got a concussion for. Even though he was ready to come back in.


Yes this guy has huge bust written all over him. Anyone in the NFL can become a bust but to think this guy has no shot is laughable.

You might be right about him not fitting the WCO in Clev but he would fit in very nicely in DC and would be a game 1 starter. I just hope if he is the one we are going after it works out where we don't have to trade up to get him.



Saw that last night. Yup screams bust

edit-hahah Son of Washington. That's our blog
http://sonofwashington.com/

I didn’t say anything about Washington, I hope he goes to Washington, he might be able to succeed there. Running QB’s in the AFC North, pls go. You will get hurt.

I like the kid, he is a good prospect. He just has too many physical and developmental issues for me to want him in Cleveland. He is going to take time.

Cam had these and a lot more doubts... That turned out pretty well. This guy physically is unreal. Has an incredible arm. Confident and intelligent. He'll be a leader. If the Panthers hadn't landed Cam last year I'd have been more than happy with us selling the farm to get this guy.

El Oh El

Cam Newton is a once in a lifetime prospect, two compare the two at almost any level is laughable. Newton is a physical freak, RGIII is “fast”, Newton dominated the SEC, RGIII played in the Big12.

I’ve said it before, the thought of getting another Cam Newton is making dudes penises engorged. Don’t count on it.

Newton came into a situation where he was surrounded by offensive talent. These RGIII/Newton comparisons are going to get old real quick.

Spot on dude. GJDM

I'm not sure he was comparing them, just noting that ESPN's evaluations of a guy are about as accurate and reliable as a sports miscers.

I have a good track reco rd aside from Newton, who I had major issues with taking at one (I was way off, the dude actually CAN throw). RGIII can throw, but just because a guy can throw the ball doesn’t mean he can play. Drafting an “Athlete” QB is a mistake….Mike Vick proves that year in and year out. How many full seasons has that dude played? Two? He gets hurt every year.

No thanks, and this is a srs, no racist, but look at the QB’s who win superbowls….Tall, white, pocket QB’s, not “athletic, rocket arm QB’s who can scramble”.



I’m not saying he isn’t good. I just hope the Browns pass on him. McCoy isn’t horrible and I DON’T think RGIII is a franchise maker. Just my opinion

[IawI]

Not comparing them at all. I just wanted to make the point that people doubted Cam because of the same things that are being said about RG3. Yes, Cam was put into a good situation (which is unusual for a top pick QB) but let's not pretend like it was the talent surrounding him that led him to having a good year. He made the reads and throws that at this time last year everyone was doubting he could do. That's the only comparison that I draw between him and Griffin. The doubters are saying the same things. Sometimes we never learn from our mistakes.

I can see it now. RGIII runs sub 4.5 and everyone nuts their pants saying he'll be the next Newton, and the Sports misc will be loaded with debates about how they compare. I hope this isn't the case.

But I wasn't taking anything away from Newton. He lucked out and got put in a good situation for him to thrive. I'm just happy he's not in my division or conference.