detainted at walmart because I put an apple pie in under jacket (serious)

[Angra_Mainyu]

(This is a 100% serious thread, I will delete it soon because I used my real account)
This is in the state of North Carolina
I grabbed an apple pie (those 69 cent ones) with my left hand and put it under my jacket for a second as a joke and the loss prevention employee comes up to me and immediately tries to detain me for doing that, I am like "why are you detaining me I'm going to buy this and I haven't tried to leave the store with it and im trying to buy groceries" but the guy is literally pushing into me so I put down the pie and start leaving the store while he keeps pushing into me, I'm asking why are you detaining me and he basically says I can't leave and stuff even though I say I don't have any property on me and that he isn't allowed to stop me. I co-operate anyways and let him call the police over some snack worth less than a dollar even though I don't even have it on me. The police come and are basically just standing there while he makes his statement about this stuff and now I have a court date. any advice? I put it down before I left the stores doors to begin with

Other important facts:
put down the wrong date of birth on the official statment even though I told him it (correctly) twice with multiple police as witnesses
literal statement says this exactly:
"The officer has probable cause to believe that on or on that (insert date) in the county named above that you did unlawfully and willfully steal, take, and carry away (an apple pie), the personal property of (walmart), such property having a value of ($1.00). (G.S. 14-72(a))"


This is what that statue is
"§ 17-42. Contents of application.
The application for the writ shall be made by the party to the suit or proceeding in which the writ is required, or by his agent or attorney. It must be verified by the applicant; and shall state–
(1) The title and nature of the suit or proceeding in regard to which the testimony of such prisoner is desired.
(2) That the testimony of such prisoner is material and necessary to such party on the trial or hearing of such suit or proceeding, as he is advised by counsel and verily believes."

from: http://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislat...7/gs_17-42.pdf

Cliffs:
put applie pie under jacket for a seconf
feel like I am being illegally detained because the person does not explain to me what I have done to warrant me being confined inside walmart
want to start selling drugs and prepare to take down the government because im a serious student trying to get a degree in chemistry and this bull**** happens to me


sorry the quality is so low, all I have to take pictures is the built in webcam of my laptop

[E77]

why did you put an apple pie under your jacket? enjoy life my man

[dickwadeater]

just explain the situation as well as you did in the op...why cant you just leave?

[Angra_Mainyu]

why did you put an apple pie under your jacket? enjoy life my man

I did it as a joke but thats not even the point because im being charged for it.

[Valenzuelatech]

What was the joke?

[American_Maniac]

Pretty sure its been clarified that you can put an item in a pocket or under your coat as long as you do not try to leave the store. You can probably sue once you beat the case.

[raleighwho]

my mom was a lp once back in the day not sure if the law changed but you HAVE TO leave store property in order for them to detain you!

same scenario if you opened up a can of soda in the store! they cant detain you unless you leave without paying!!!

[farepare]

in on epic thread
I got caught for shoplifting when I was younger so I might me able to help you
They waited until I left the store and then they detained me and took the stuff from me
however that was in target and I am not sure how things work at walmart but personally I do believe you have case on your hands
also why would you pretend to do something so stupid like that
there was nothing to gain from the situation
stay smart

[1cheekykunt]

I did it as a joke but thats not even the point because im being charged for it.

Joke? What's funny about that. Who were you trying to impress by pretending to steal an apple? Notsurifsrs.

[E77]

I did it as a joke but thats not even the point because im being charged for it.

It is the point now, because it's that which you will be explaining to the court.

Go look up the statute for shoplifting/larceny/theft in your state, and see if you broke the law. Often the "intention to permanently deprive" someone of their goods is illegal. By putting something under your jacket, you may demonstrate intention.

EDIT - No more replies until OP shows pic of court documents etc. Censor whatever you need to.

[Angra_Mainyu]

Pretty sure its been clarified that you can put an item in a pocket or under your coat as long as you do not try to leave the store. You can probably sue once you beat the case.

my mom was a lp once back in the day not sure if the law changed but you HAVE TO leave store property in order for them to detain you!

same scenario if you opened up a can of soda in the store! they cant detain you unless you leave without paying!!!

I physically left the store but I didn't even have the item on me, while the guy was physically blocking my way I was just like wtf and walked out. This might have been stupid but my thought process was, do not forcefully hold me inside walmart for stealing if I didn't walk out of the store with anything,

[SchwarzBruder]

Lmao what's 1.00 to Walmart anyways

[MtMostWanted]

Security at Walmart cannot legally physically detain you. You either ****ed up by waiting for the police, or your rights were trampled on and can sue. It is probably the former though. You're just am idiot. Learn your rights. Two things you should know: never allow security to trick you into being detained and never allow the police in your home, or car without a warrant. Learn your lesson, pay your fine, and move on.

[E77]

Security at Walmart cannot legally physically detain you.

Are you sure there is no law for citizen's arrest in OP's state?

[bigcc]

don't use a public defender

[himynameisjames]

What a waste of taxpayer $. Seriously.

They have to prove you intended to steal it. Should've told that motherf*cker at Walmart you can only detain someone for an indictable offence, and if he touches you you'll have him done for assault. Hey, if he can screw you for a 69c apple pie then you should be able to screw him for touching you.

To OP. Why did you put it under your jacket? I can't see much lols coming from that.

[DaCougarMech]

lol. how exactly did they detain you? unless he's (probably illegally) tackling you, you're free to just walk your thieving ass out of the store

[1cheekykunt]

Cliffs:

OP tried to steal an apple and got caught.

[lolbutttz]

they can't do **** unless you tried to walk out with it. don't know why you even got a court date.

[himynameisjames]

Security at Walmart cannot legally physically detain you.

They can, ONLY if you've committed an indictable offence such as assault or attempting to hold them up and steal the $.

[Smykowski]

willfully steal, take, and carry away

technically you set it down and didn't carry it away let alone steal

[MtMostWanted]

Are you sure there is no law for citizen's arrest in OP's state?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

North Carolina does not have a citizens arrest law. Also, citizen's arrest is only allowed if the crime committed is a felony. There is not a state in the nation where a $0.69 item being stolen is a felony.

[SchwarzBruder]

This how can Walmart detain u? The second he touched me I would have felt threatened and beat him up

Security at Walmart cannot legally physically detain you. You either ****ed up by waiting for the police, or your rights were trampled on and can sue. It is probably the former though. You're just am idiot. Learn your rights. Two things you should know: never allow security to trick you into being detained and never allow the police in your home, or car without a warrant. Learn your lesson, pay your fine, and move on.

[ujellymisc]

why the fuk would you put an apple pie under your jacket as a joke? is this real life? Guess you are just gonna have to pie the price OP.

[31337157]

You should have left brother. Never co-operate if you don't have to, it always ends up in a mess.

[SeanP35]

Cliffs:

OP tried to steal an apple and got caught.

Cliffs: Multiple posters in this thread can't read.

[Huberus]

Srs.

They cannot detain someone they believe to be shoplifting unless they maintained a visual on OP from putting the item into his jacket to him leaving the store.

The reason that rule is in place is so that exactly this situation doesn't take place, its big trouble for them if you didn't have the item once you were detained outside.

You're still a f*ckstick for putting sh*t in your jacket in a shop.

[SchwarzBruder]

Seriously how can they prove op was going to steal putting stuff in your pocket is no different the. Putin it in a bag. If he didn't walk out with out paying what crime did he commit ?

[E77]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

North Carolina does not have a citizens arrest law. Also, citizen's arrest is only allowed if the crime committed is a felony. There is not a state in the nation where a $0.69 item being stolen is a felony.

Okay, in my state in Aust you can make an arrest when you witness any offense (+ more).

[imsmarterthanu]

land of the freeeeeeeee