BC's Unsponsored Halodrol Liquiges Log/Review

[Macrobolic]

Welcome all to my Halodrol Liquigel Log

First, I would like to start off with a little bit about me. I am 25 years old, and have been lifting weights on and off since high school. I've actually always been interested in having bigger muscles since I can remember. My parents got my some 5 and 10lbs weights when I was 9 or 10 and just did whatever I knew how.

I've always been athletic and at the end of high school I got up to 160 lbs. However, my weight fluctuated after that until at one point, I got up to 196lbs (but very fat ) After that, I've done some cuts to cut down on the fat, then build muscle, and now we are here.

The supplement:

From:

Will be taking:

More found here: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gn/halo.html
Other reviews links can be found here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1043831

My goals during this "cycle":
I want to build muscle and lose fat (who doesn't) and gain a lot of strength. I have read a few other reviews and it seems like many make pretty good strength gains. I really am looking to put on as much lean mass as possible, while still losing 2-4 lbs of fat.

Long term goals:
Current: Feb 2007
5'8"
200.4lbs
18.6% bf
225x1 bench
295x1 squat and deadlift

Goals:End of December 2007
5'8"
210lbs
12% bf
315x3 bench
405x3 squat and deadlift
Hope this clears up the confusion (see below posts)

Other supplements I am taking
EAS Phosphagen and EAS Phosphagen Elite mixed
Scivation Xtend (6 scoops on workout days)
Multivitamin
B-vitamin comlex or Vitamin C (I switch between these day to day)
RecoverX post workout shake
MHP Up Your Mass (3 scoops, twice a day)
MHP Probolic SR (2 scoops at night)
NOW PS

Diet
This is going to be changing somewhat in March, but suffice it to say that I eat 2500-3000 calories a day depending on if I workout or not, etc.

I usually get around 200-220 grams of protein a day.

I eat 6-7 times a day, switching between whole food meals and meal replacements.

Workouts
My workouts are based on reaching the previously stated goals for bench, squat, and deadlift. For more on my workouts, see my log here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1008070

[TT22]

So in 40 days, you plan to gain around 15-20 pounds of muscle, increase your bench by 150 pounds, and increase your squat by 150 pounds. Very doable,*sarcasm*


good luck

Jdub

[Blast_]

Originally Posted by TT22

So in 40 days, you plan to gain around 15-20 pounds of muscle, increase your bench by 150 pounds, and increase your squat by 150 pounds. Very doable,*sarcasm*


good luck

Jdub

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by TT22

So in 40 days, you plan to gain around 15-20 pounds of muscle, increase your bench by 150 pounds, and increase your squat by 150 pounds. Very doable,*sarcasm*


good luck

Jdub

Originally Posted by Blast_

Exactly what I was thinking.

No, sorry. That's why I said I will be back to finish updating everything. Those are my long term goals. Sorry for the confusion. And I mean, if I wanted to gain 15-20lbs of muscle in 40 days, I'd have to take dat dere cell tech

(I guess you didn't read the text above that. I plan on losing 2-4 lbs of fat in 40 days which IS doable, and gain that much or more of muscle. The biggest thing that I am interested in doing is gaining strength though.

[Macrobolic]

Should I take the Halodrol with a meal? Or do I take it before or after? Thanks in advance.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by BrettCorless

Should I take the Halodrol with a meal? Or do I take it before or after? Thanks in advance.

BTW there is nothing wrong with setting high goals, why would anyone wanna aim low in the first place????

Take HLG right before your meal or with your meal, doesnt matter

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

...Take HLG right before your meal or with your meal, doesnt matter

Thank bro!

[Macrobolic]

I am going to be starting off by taking 1 pill a day for today and tomorrow. I will take this at night.

Next I will take 2 pills a day for 2 days, one pill in the morning and one at night.

I will then take 3 pills a day, one with each whole food meal, for the rest of the 42 day cycle.

[Macrobolic]

Just took my first dose tonight, 9:00pm MST. The cycle has begun.

Edit: I didn't feel any side effects like head pressure, etc. like others have. We'll see what happens when I start taking the full dose though.

[TT22]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

BTW there is nothing wrong with setting high goals, why would anyone wanna aim low in the first place????

Theres a big difference between setting high goals and unrealistic goals!

Jdub

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by TT22

Theres a big difference between setting high goals and unrealistic goals!

Jdub

Yes, there is. OT-by the way, if anyone wants help on designing your goals, go to the thread in my sig.

That being said, there is the example of Casey Viator in the Colorado Experiment. Yes he had lost muscle and was rebuilding and yes, he had extremely good genetics. Still, he gained 63 pounds of muscle in 28 days. No, that is not a typo. 28 DAYS. 4 Weeks. rougly 1 month. He also lost nearly 18lbs of fat in the same time period for a net gain of over 45lbs, in 28 days.

http://www.musclenet.com/coloradoexperiment.htm

I am sorry for the confusion that I caused by not finishing the whole first post before I needed to leave, but what's done is done. [/topic of goals]

Now that we have all of that cleared up, let's get back to the liquigels. Thanks.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by TT22

Theres a big difference between setting high goals and unrealistic goals!

Jdub

better way to phrase that is, set short term goals and long term goals

[Macrobolic]

Took one halodrol liquigel with my before bed protein shake.

I had a hard time sleeping last night, don't know if it was due to the HLG's or not (I doubt it would be). Guess we will see tonight. If so, I will take it with my 6pm meal.

Sides felt today: none

ps- I will update strength gains at the end of the week for all of my workouts.

[Macrobolic]

Today was my first day of taking 2 HLGs. I took one in the morning, and one at night. Tomorrow will be another 2 HLGs and then from there on, it is going to be 3 a day.

Side effects: none felt. no additional acne up to this point (although its only the 3rd day).

I have decided that for this log, I am going to measure weight and bodyfat every two weeks. Also, I will start listing if I stuck to my diet, or if I deviated a little bit.

Today, I had some sweets at work (just a few little hershey's choclates). Other than that, diet was dead on today.

Also for my workouts, like I said I will only be updating that weekly. What I am going to do is list exercises in which there was a noticeable difference in how much weight used or reps performed.

[jman1978]

Good luck man. Your goals of gaining 3-4lbs of muscle & lossing the same amout of fat are very doable.
I suggest you check BW weekly as your body can change quite quickly while taking HLG. During my last cycle I had to increase my cals by ~1000cals per day to keep gaining.

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by jman1978

Good luck man. Your goals of gaining 3-4lbs of muscle & lossing the same amout of fat are very doable.
I suggest you check BW weekly as your body can change quite quickly while taking HLG. During my last cycle I had to increase my cals by ~1000cals per day to keep gaining.

I will keep that in mind. Perhaps I will test weekly.

[Macrobolic]

Supplements (if different from my usual)
Nothing different than usual today.
Took one HLG in the morning and one this evening.

Nutrition
Went well today. Went with my wife out to dinner, but that was the only "cheat" that I had today.

Workout
Went well today. Did chest, shoulder, and triceps today.
Exercises of note were the following:
Incline Flyes

Cardio
None today

Side Effects Felt
None today, no acne appearing yet either, which is great.

General Comments
Liking the HLGs so far. Not feeling any adverse effects yet, but strength has been going up on all exercises this week. I have able to train more intensely as well.

[Macrobolic]

Supplements (if different from my usual)
None

Nutrition
Went really well today. I had an extra roll with turkey and mustard at work, just cause it was available and I was a little hungry.

Workout
No weights today

Cardio
25 minutes on the elliptical trainer

Side Effects Felt
No adverse effects felt

General Comments
Today was my first day on 3 HLG's in the day. Still no adverse effects felt or seen. We will see how it goes in the coming days and weeks.

[jman1978]

Originally Posted by BrettCorless

Supplements (if different from my usual)
None

Nutrition
Went really well today. I had an extra roll with turkey and mustard at work, just cause it was available and I was a little hungry.

Workout
No weights today

Cardio
25 minutes on the elliptical trainer

Side Effects Felt
No adverse effects felt

General Comments
Today was my first day on 3 HLG's in the day. Still no adverse effects felt or seen. We will see how it goes in the coming days and weeks.

Like the layout of your log

Think I'll add a Side Effects section to my log.

[ab-swing asianbabe]

Great log so far! Because of the AA you might be able to get away with more than 2500-3000 cals if trying to gain weight, how are your workouts so far or too early to tell of any significant effects?

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by asianbabe

Great log so far! ...

Thanks and welcome

Originally Posted by asianbabe

...Because of the AA you might be able to get away with more than 2500-3000 cals if trying to gain weight...

I will keep that in mind. Like Jman said to do, I am going to check my weight and bodyfat each week and make adjustments as I go.

Originally Posted by asianbabe

...how are your workouts so far or too early to tell of any significant effects?

They are going great. See my next post for today's workout progress or come to my log here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1008070

In this log I am just going to write about the exercises that I thought went exceptionally well.

[Macrobolic]

Supplements (if different from my usual)
None

Nutrition
Today is my cheat day. I went out for pizza with my wife and some friends. I also got some ice cream at this place called Scoopology. It was pretty good ice cream. Other than that, I had my diet in place.

Workout
Went really well today.
Undergrip Pulldowns
Bentover Rows
One arm dumbbell rows
Spider Curls
As you can see, todays workout was awesome. All of the exercises increased by weight and I got almost as many to more reps than the last time I did them.

Cardio
None

Side Effects Felt
I actually felt some head pressure, especially during my workout, but wasn't enough to really effect me that much.

General Comments
I am enjoying the HLG's. As other people have reported, strenght is going up (and this is only my 1st of 6 weeks). Today was my 2nd day of taking 3 pills a day. So far so good.

[Macrobolic]

Supplements (if different from my usual)
None

Nutrition
I woke up late, so I didn't have breakfast but made up the calories by having an extra meal later on.

Workout
None

Cardio
20 minutes on elliptical trainer

Side Effects Felt
None today

General Comments
Still feeling good. Will weight myself tomorrow and test bf%. First week is done.

[Macrobolic]

I'm a little disappointed because of the measurements I just took. Although strength is going up, the measurements were not as favorable. It is only the 1st week however. I may need to change up my diet (macro percentages) a little bit, so we'll see...

Anyways, here are the measurements:

Before:
200.4lbs
18.6% bf

After:
199.8lbs
18.9%bf

Change:
-0.6 lbs
+0.3%bf
Lean mass:-1.08lbs NOT GOOD
Fat:+0.48lbs NOT GOOD

Now I know that the bodyfat analyzer can be off so hopefully that is what is happening in this case. But like I said, at least strength is up. We'll see what happens next week.

[zachattack43]

what kind of workouts do you do, give me an example and i can help ya

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

what kind of workouts do you do, give me an example and i can help ya

Workouts are the following:
Monday-(Squats) Legs and calves
Tuesday-Cardio
Wednesday-(Bench Press) Chest, Shoulder, Triceps
Thursday-Cardio
Friday-(Deadlift) Back and biceps
Saturday-yoga/cardio

I am focusing on strength, specifically in the deadlift, squat, and bench press. I am following a routine made by the bench press monster himself, Ryan Kennelly. This is to reach my goal weights of 405lbs x 3 on squat and deadlifts and 315lbs x 3 on bench.

On top of that, I also do a more hypertrophic zone training. I basically do 6 sets, doing a compound and isolation movement for each bodypart. I also use drop sets and x-reps to increase the intensity and the need for longer recovery.

The reason for such low sets is that I do 8-10 sets of squats, bench and deadlifts on their respective days, and I only have an hour in which to workout. I know that this type of a workout wasn't going to bring phenomonal gains in mass, but a loss of muscle is a little discouraging.

I am considering upping my calories to 3000 on non workout days and 3500 on workout days. As of right now, I take in 2500 calories on non-workout days and 3000 on workout days. I think I am going to stay with the same diet this week and see how it goes on a full week of the full dose of HLGs and then decide what I will do from there. But let me know what you think.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by BrettCorless

Workouts are the following:
Monday-(Squats) Legs and calves
Tuesday-Cardio
Wednesday-(Bench Press) Chest, Shoulder, Triceps
Thursday-Cardio
Friday-(Deadlift) Back and biceps
Saturday-yoga/cardio

I am focusing on strength, specifically in the deadlift, squat, and bench press. I am following a routine made by the bench press monster himself, Ryan Kennelly. This is to reach my goal weights of 405lbs x 3 on squat and deadlifts and 315lbs x 3 on bench.

On top of that, I also do a more hypertrophic zone training. I basically do 6 sets, doing a compound and isolation movement for each bodypart. I also use drop sets and x-reps to increase the intensity and the need for longer recovery.

The reason for such low sets is that I do 8-10 sets of squats, bench and deadlifts on their respective days, and I only have an hour in which to workout. I know that this type of a workout wasn't going to bring phenomonal gains in mass, but a loss of muscle is a little discouraging.

I am considering upping my calories to 3000 on non workout days and 3500 on workout days. As of right now, I take in 2500 calories on non-workout days and 3000 on workout days. I think I am going to stay with the same diet this week and see how it goes on a full week of the full dose of HLGs and then decide what I will do from there. But let me know what you think.

oh yea, for your size i would up those calories, more carbs on workout days, more veggies on Non workout days

What does your diet look like? what about post workout nutrition?

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

oh yea, for your size i would up those calories, more carbs on workout days, more veggies on Non workout days...

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I have high bodyfat though, so I want to keep that in check at least. Thanks for the suggestion.

Originally Posted by zachattack43

...What does your diet look like? what about post workout nutrition?

Here's a rough outline of diet:
Meal 1 Oatmeal, apple, milk
Meal 2 Meal Replacement (MHP's Up Your Mass)
Meal 3 Steak Pita (Whole wheat pita, 3-4 oz beef, cheese, salsa, pepper, etc)
Meal 4 Meal Replacement
Meal 5 Chicken Pasta (1/2 cup uncooked whole wheat noodles, chicken, cheese)
Meal 6 Probolic-SR Protein Shake (2 scoops)

This comes out to about 2500 calories. I eat this everyday except for fridays I have a cheat meal at night.

Post workout is 3 scoops of a workout recovery shake called RecoverX. It has 60 grams simple carbs, 40 grams whey protein, and 4 grams of fat. I also mix 1 scoop of Xtend and 1 scoop of my mixed creatine blend in there.

[zachattack43]

Originally Posted by BrettCorless

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I have high bodyfat though, so I want to keep that in check at least. Thanks for the suggestion.



Here's a rough outline of diet:
Meal 1 Oatmeal, apple, milk
Meal 2 Meal Replacement (MHP's Up Your Mass)
Meal 3 Steak Pita (Whole wheat pita, 3-4 oz beef, cheese, salsa, pepper, etc)
Meal 4 Meal Replacement
Meal 5 Chicken Pasta (1/2 cup uncooked whole wheat noodles, chicken, cheese)
Meal 6 Probolic-SR Protein Shake (2 scoops)

This comes out to about 2500 calories. I eat this everyday except for fridays I have a cheat meal at night.

Post workout is 3 scoops of a workout recovery shake called RecoverX. It has 60 grams simple carbs, 40 grams whey protein, and 4 grams of fat. I also mix 1 scoop of Xtend and 1 scoop of my mixed creatine blend in there.

you need protein for breakfast - eggs with egg whites
1/2 of your meals are from shakes, you need more real food

[Macrobolic]

Originally Posted by zachattack43

...1/2 of your meals are from shakes, you need more real food

School and work don't always make that possible.

The oatmeal I have for breakfast is higher in protein than your generic brand, but agreed that I need more protein in that meal.