Why do people say Kai Greene will not win an Olympia?

[DavisForman]

Someone please aware me on what "politics" means in this context? Reps for a good answer :/

Well, like pretty much anything in this world, the IFBB is first and foremost a business. As the owner of a business, you want it to be represented by people that will give it a good name. Some people feel that Kai gives bodybuilding a bad name (again, not me), so there is speculation that the powers that be in the IFBB will never let Kai win the Olympia.

[ThePinsir]

not sure if ifbb wants him to win and be the face of bb

Well, like pretty much anything in this world, the IFBB is first and foremost a business. As the owner of a business, you want it to be represented by people that will give it a good name. Some people feel that Kai gives bodybuilding a bad name (again, not me), so there is speculation that the powers that be in the IFBB will never let Kai win the Olympia.

I see...
On recharge, guys

[Mohak1989]

Kai definitely has an olympia winning physique but lets be honest regardless of politics in the sport he has never brought his best package to an olympia stage.

One can only judge or begin to think about politics when Kai comes in at 100% and gets 3rd or 4th at the olympia. No doubt he is a top two bodybuilder when he brings his conditioning in, this is why this Olympia coming could be epic.

[umustsacrifice]

^^This. He will not be battling for 1st...

I agree. I think he needs 2 more years before he has the all around development to pull it off. repped

[DavisForman]

One can only judge or begin to think about politics when Kai comes in at 100% and gets 3rd or 4th at the olympia. No doubt he is a top two bodybuilder when he brings his conditioning in, this is why this Olympia coming could be epic.

It could also be an epic disappointment. I really really hope it's not! We have never seen what Kai can do with a full year off.

[Mohak1989]

It could also be an epic disappointment. I really really hope it's not! We have never seen what Kai can do with a full year off.

Spot on mate. Not taking Jay of the cards or anything but surely Kai is the biggest threat to Phil this year, with Jay trying a slightly different approach this year I doubt he will come in as a mass monster like in 09 rather come in slightly smaller size wise but peeled although imo not going to beat Phil this way.

With Victor Martinez having his own problems, Wolf past his peak (07 imo), Branch maybe committed as ever but I just don't see anything other than 4th-5th for him.
There is only Kai who will battle Phil for this olympia coming.

I hope we can see something special from Evan at the Arnold, could just spice things up at the Olympia.

All in all its still early to make such calls but just the way I see it happening.

[Groggery]

Well i dared to visit her site. I laughed, i cried...i barfed.

Now if that woman was a competitor, looking at how people treat Kai i assume she'd cause ****storms left and right.

[HydroShake]

i dare anyone to go to the following site http://www.veronica-moser.com/

i double dare you, madafuka

what the fck is this. i don't even...

[MAX.MAREK]

Jesus, the Centopani hype is getting ridiculous

seriously.

branch warren is also one he still has to try and out beat

[HollywoodJohn]

He did date that fine piece of ass Veronica Moser for a brief period.

You serious?

[PhoenixBuff]

Well, like pretty much anything in this world, the IFBB is first and foremost a business. As the owner of a business, you want it to be represented by people that will give it a good name. Some people feel that Kai gives bodybuilding a bad name (again, not me), so there is speculation that the powers that be in the IFBB will never let Kai win the Olympia.

This and he has of yet to come in 100% at the Olympia.

[Fairfax]

Kai's physique isn't my fave but I think it's possible he could actually be a great Mr O in terms of raisng bodybuilding's profile somewhat. It would depend on how he went about handling himself in relation to media attention but he strikes me as potentially having the kind of personality that could interest a wider audience than you might expect. I can imagine him in mainstream feature pieces in a way I can't quite see some of the other guys (and that's no disrespect to them).

[D6A6N6I6E6L6]

The fact that kai woll not be mr olympia has nothing to do with his past, specifically the gay ****. If that were to have any effect on his career, he would have never won the arnold, NYP, or any pro shows for that matter.

It kinda pisses me off, but he's very eccentric obviously, and the IFBB doesn't want somebody like that as a representative for the sport. That's why they've had guys like Lee Haney and Jay in the past, because they're well spoken and bring about a positive image.

[l2ambo]

If Kai ever nails his conditioning it's gonna be bad news for whoever he's competing against.

[SwolenONE]

there is no reason why he cant win, he just needs to bring in a more aesthetic package.

[JanesLastResort]

It's actually plausible if you think about it.

The reigning champ needs to represent the sport in a way, like others have said, that will bring profit to the industry. If you have a stain in your past the only way it could be overlooked is if you bring something groundbreaking to the stage, something that judges can't deny. Something that overshadows what people would think about you if your past gets found out. The darker it is the better you need to look to top it.

So basically Kai needs to not just beat Phil (both being each others greatest threat), but he needs to utterly destroy the whole stage.

Vic is the best example that you don't just get the sandow and the prestige of being the greatest at the sport just by being the best man on stage if you have a questionable past. You can't deny Vic, but his past coupled with the fact that while being overall the best on stage he didn't dominate completey proves how easily an athlete can get shafted because of his past when it comes to the greatest competition in professional bodybuilding.

We still need to see Kais best at the o before we make assumptions, but that's still how i see it. I doubt it's as easy as some people make it out to be.

Also i'm a huge Kai fan so please don't shoot me lol.

[chenko]

Kai IMO beat Phil at the Sheru but def not the O .....still placed 3rd in both an example of the politics of BB

[HollywoodJohn]

Kai IMO beat Phil at the Sheru but def not the O .....still placed 3rd in both an example of the politics of BB

I don't think they were targetting Kai specifically in both the O. & the Sheru, they pretty much didn't gave a chance to any of the other top 6 in both shows other than the bro-romance going on between Phil & Jay.

[4nicate]

Sometimes you hear people say that Kai is carrying "Too much muscle". Which I think is stupid is ****.

Queen Kamali said it like a dozen times when he did that horrid commentary.

[TheMullah]

fixed for you, epic pic!

If the show was judged on that shot alone Kai would have won, wow what a great pic

[valiantmiller16]

weather people like to admit it or not the sport is heavily driven by politics thinking otherwise is just lieing to yourself, best thing to do is pretend it doesnt exist so you can enjoy shows thats what i do

[PEETcassidy]

fixed for you, epic pic!



Im not sure about that. It may come down to whether he has a mole on his face

First pic iv seen where Kai's arms actually look bigger than Phils.

[tneal06]

i think he could, but will be hard to top Phil right now

[Seemedsafe]

Well i dared to visit her site. I laughed, i cried...i barfed.

Now if that woman was a competitor, looking at how people treat Kai i assume she'd cause ****storms left and right.

with heavy rain

[antish]

kai needs to come in 2011 ny pro. he's a mass monster, should not be going for an aesthetic physique like last year imo(very flat). no way he's going to outcondition phil but he can outmass him for sure.

[Montaj]

what the fck is this. i don't even...

what....the...fu

[Brownus1989]

what the fck is this. i don't even...

how can she sit there and talk about it all so casually??? filthy bish!!!

[stealth_swimmer]

Heath and Centopani are gonna dual it out and Cutler and Greene will battle for 3rd and 4th place. Kai looks swole but hes just too short for the type of physique he envisioned. If he was 5'10" his vision would of worked wonderfully.

Centopani? Dude.....*dude*....dude....

[stealth_swimmer]

how can she sit there and talk about it all so casually??? filthy bish!!!

Cus they're interviewing her...


Anyways, I think that's gross (but is especially gross to be on the receiving side). I think you gotta have somethin wrong with your head. It's human *waste* after all. Gross.

[Ajthemeso]

what the fck is this. i don't even...

there is no words to describe that...what has been heard