Why do people say Kai Greene will not win an Olympia?

[tryin2gethuge10]

Probably because he sexed a grapefruit.

growth gut

Kai could learn from Lionel Beyeke. If I had the time and access to all the video footage I would like to see if any major title has or will have been won this year without applause begging. Its more than just random chance.

Three idiotic posts right in a row, impressive!

[Champion651]

I don't think he'll win cause I think that Phil simply is a better bodybuilder.

[tryin2gethuge10]

I don't think he'll win cause I think that Phil simply is a better bodybuilder.

Now that makes sense!

[Carlitom]

Will people ever let go of the whole grapefruit scenario? I think it's time to let that whole thing fizzle out.

[jiveinhere]

I think he looks exceptionally well in this pic

fixed for you, epic pic!

applause begging, once he masters that he win be unbeatable

Im not sure about that. It may come down to whether he has a mole on his face

[tryin2gethuge10]

Will people ever let go of the whole grapefruit scenario? I think it's time to let that whole thing fizzle out.

As long as the majority of people continue to be immature and ignorant, it will never be let go.

[sculpt07]

Kai needs to come in at his all time best. Simple as that. There are so many guys on the rise, if he dials it he has a chance. IMO I can't see him beating phil

[DavisForman]

As long as the majority of people continue to be immature and ignorant, it will never be let go.

Sad world we live in.

[justinnnnn]

It is.

As said Kai has yet to bring his best package to O' stage. If he is the best man up there he will win.

I hope this is the case and I want to believe it. But then I look back at Kai not even getting compared to Jay and Phil at the O.. I don't know what to think i just want Kai to win some well deserved sandows.

Edit* yes the S on the end of Sandow was intentional.

[tsiparlanaeht]

As stated earlier he simply has not brought his best package to the Mr Olympia stage and Phil Heath has.

Also LMFAO at people thinking Evan can beat Phil/Kai this year...sorry but there is a big jump in level from top 6 to top 3/2. Can he in the future? Sure but so can many other...will he as of how he looks right now beat them this year? No. People forget not only is Phil/Kai literally complete to perfection but they also bring in amazing conditioning. Until Evan brings up his chest/back he won't be beating those two.

[Boba_Bulk]

In a sport thats so serious.
What holds him back:
1. His past.
2. His posing.
3. His inability to bring something outrageous to the Olympia stage.
4. Politics.

I think if he can bring point 3 to the stage, he'd be hard to deny, but it depends i guess.

^^ This.

I laugh at people who say Kai is getting screwed by the IFBB. He hasn't brought an Olympia package to the Olympia stage yet. Over-dieted in 09, significantly off in 2010, and Phil was unbeatable last year.

We really don't know if Kai's past will hold him back until he actually has an Olympia winning physique. But I think if he truly, 100% nails it at the O, the judges will have no choice but to give it to him, or they will have a riot on their hands.

It is.

As said Kai has yet to bring his best package to O' stage. If he is the best man up there he will win.

As a Kai fan I want to see him get at least one O before he retires. I do think it's politics to a degree, meaning that there are a lot of people in the bb organization that would always prefer someone else to win, and as long as he's not 100% dialed in, there is no political controversy. How much influence do those people have, if any, who knows. But at the same time if Kai can nail it in and bring that wow factor, he would be hard denied a win.

I hope this is the case and I want to believe it. But then I look back at Kai not even getting compared to Jay and Phil at the O.. I don't know what to think i just want Kai to win some well deserved sandows.

Edit* yes the S on the end of Sandow was intentional.

Yeah I was irked by that for sure. But then at the same time, Dennis Wolf, and Victor Martinez got the shaft too, and that "unprecedented" 10 man callout was another bs tactic to spread the top guys apart even more. So from that point they really weren't singling Kai out, but Wolf and Vic as well. It became less of a we don't want so-and-so to win, and more of a we want so-and-so to win.

Of course the winner was judged correctly. Phil Heath came in with the best package of his life, and nobody was going to beat him. Everybody else below between 3rd and 5th place was shafted one spot.

[kingnino]

sorry but whats wrong with his past? this might be a noob question, sorry, but iam really curious

[BigHugeLawls]

sorry but whats wrong with his past? this might be a noob question, sorry, but iam really curious

Basically, he did some manly posing involving a grapefruit and putting a hole in it.

Sad, considering how the rest of his past is all about how he overcame all the obstacles in his life. Ironically, coming bore other fruits.

[tsiparlanaeht]

sorry but whats wrong with his past? this might be a noob question, sorry, but iam really curious

Google goatse ...

[jiveinhere]

Google goatse ...

youre a kunt hahaha

[kingnino]

Google goatse ...

oh rly? bing sucks xDD

[tsiparlanaeht]

youre a kunt hahaha

Tekehehe

[Animall]

Because Phil has a better waistline and looks more sharp.

Personally, I think kai will be placing anywhere between the 4/5/6/7 places the coming up years at the Olympia.

[flangmasterj]

He did date that fine piece of ass Veronica Moser for a brief period.

[DanielEver]

He did date that fine piece of ass Veronica Moser for a brief period.

i dare anyone to go to the following site http://www.veronica-moser.com/

i double dare you, madafuka

[ROMMYromboid]

He did date that fine piece of ass Veronica Moser for a brief period.

This was Kai's woman?

i dare anyone to go to the following site http://www.veronica-moser.com/

i double dare you, madafuka

Thats a serious site, not even a grapefruit could exist in that kaos.

[PEETcassidy]

Kai's definitely a top 3 bodybuilder imo and my personal favourite but whilst his arms look great when he does the double bicep poses the shrink from most other angles when he stands next to Phil. His tricep poses in particular. Phil also has a much tighter waist and has a less quirky posing routine and overall look which sits well with the judges.

Kai is fukkin epic when he's oan tho. His back his biceps and just about every part of his legs are untouchable.

[jiveinhere]

Kai's definitely a top 3 bodybuilder imo and my personal favourite but whilst his arms look great when he does the double bicep poses the shrink from most other angles when he stands next to Phil. His tricep poses in particular. Phil also has a much tighter waist and has a less quirky posing routine and overall look which sits well with the judges.

Kai is fukkin epic when he's oan tho. His back his biceps and just about every part of his legs are untouchable.

Where are you getting that nonsense from? You might remember Kai beat Phil at the 2010 Arnold Classic, with a pretty "quirky" routine

[boyoboyo]

Kai's definitely a top 3 bodybuilder imo and my personal favourite but whilst his arms look great when he does the double bicep poses the shrink from most other angles when he stands next to Phil. His tricep poses in particular. Phil also has a much tighter waist and has a less quirky posing routine and overall look which sits well with the judges.

Kai is fukkin epic when he's oan tho. His back his biceps and just about every part of his legs are untouchable.

No, phil's beaten kai the last 2 years because hes brought a more polished and more conditioned physique to the stage.....

[AnarkyLost]

As long as Phil doesn't get sick again he won't lose the title even if Kai is better in a future showing, the current champ always goes in with an advantage just look at Jay snagging 2nd this year for proof.

[g0rFz]

Heath and Centopani are gonna dual it out and Cutler and Greene will battle for 3rd and 4th place. Kai looks swole but hes just too short for the type of physique he envisioned. If he was 5'10" his vision would of worked wonderfully.

wrong on so many levels ... what did Evan place in the Mr. O's I can't remember. Oh he hasn't competed in one!

Yet you think he already has Wolf, Martinez, Warren, Cutler and Greene beat (none of which he has beat in a competition cept Wolf who beat him a few weeks later anyways...)

I like Evan and I think he has a good mind / good representative but he is not a top 3... prob not a top 5 Mr O contender IMO yet

[MrSilverback]

I don't personally agree with that, but that's why people think he won't.

That and he has yet to bring 100% conditioning to an O stage.

As much as I hate his physique I do think it's O quality. In addition, he seems to have quieted down with his "emotional banter".

Now he just needs to nail his conditioning.

[ThePinsir]

Someone please aware me on what "politics" means in this context? Reps for a good answer :/

[kerolah]

Someone please aware me on what "politics" means in this context? Reps for a good answer :/

Basically, he did some manly posing involving a grapefruit and putting a hole in it.

not sure if ifbb wants him to win and be the face of bb

[Dysun]

I was curious about Kai Greene's past after reading this thread.

Now I cant unsee