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    Good to see that your bench is takong stride with TM!

    And I'm very much in your boat with tri ext. only two I can do comfortably are oh DB one arm extensions, and rope pushdowns (which i hate)
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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    Good to see that your bench is takong stride with TM!

    And I'm very much in your boat with tri ext. only two I can do comfortably are oh DB one arm extensions, and rope pushdowns (which i hate)
    Thanks! Hoping I can keep it on simple linear progression for a while still (though it might also have to do with the weight gain...).

    I was doing the two arm DB ones, and I think doing them after cleans was dumb.

    Yeah - the rope pushdown thing is kind of ghey lol.
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    Volume:
    Squats: warmed up to 5x5@250 sets across
    Press: warmed up to 3x5@85 sets across
    Deadlift: 1x5@315
    Conc curls: 2x10x25
    Rope tri pulls: 2x10x90

    Squats were fun. Presses @ 85 were no problem, but 90 has been giving me fits so whatever. Almost benched instead but the little voice in my head that tells me not to be a pansy got loud and I did it. Pulls were fast, so good deal.

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    No such thing as not finishing.

    As you probably felt during that last squat rep earlier, based on your description
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    Originally Posted by SoulZeppelin View Post
    No such thing as not finishing.

    As you probably felt during that last squat rep earlier, based on your description
    i def am, but not liking that i did it this morning. hurts like hell
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    Went and smashed a terrifying amount of food at a Brazilian BBQ place tonight. I dun fatted and not a single duck was ridden. Felt good man.
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    Recovery squats: Warmed up to 2x5x200

    Bench: warmed up, 1x4x135, 1x3x135, 3x5x125

    Ham curl: 3x10x125

    Chins: 1x5, 5, 5

    My legs were fried today & those recovery squats really felt good. Bench felt off (well, more than usual) and it threw me off a bit. Did the hams, a few chins & called it a day. Had a lot on my mind & I just couldn't leave it at the door to go lift for some reason. Well, there will be more workouts. Also, my right elbow feels weird.
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    Originally Posted by SoulZeppelin View Post
    Recovery squats: Warmed up to 2x5x200

    Bench: warmed up, 1x4x135, 1x3x135, 3x5x125

    Ham curl: 3x10x125

    Chins: 1x5, 5, 5

    My legs were fried today & those recovery squats really felt good. Bench felt off (well, more than usual) and it threw me off a bit. Did the hams, a few chins & called it a day. Had a lot on my mind & I just couldn't leave it at the door to go lift for some reason. Well, there will be more workouts. Also, my right elbow feels weird.
    noice ham curls haha. i doubt i could do that.


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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    noice ham curls haha. i doubt i could do that.


    how much bicep work do you do?
    Ha thanks. I've never really thought about them - just picked them up as accessory work when my shoulder was injured last year and kept them.

    Bicep work - virtually none. Curls maybe 2 sets once a week. Chins & chest supported rows once a week probably hitting them some as well.
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    Originally Posted by SoulZeppelin View Post
    Ha thanks. I've never really thought about them - just picked them up as accessory work when my shoulder was injured last year and kept them.

    Bicep work - virtually none. Curls maybe 2 sets once a week. Chins & chest supported rows once a week probably hitting them some as well.
    i asked about the bi work because iirc, its helpul in injury prevention in the elbow. i helped for me. my elbow always felt bizarre on ohp and bench, then i started doin ez curls 3-4x8-10 with minimal rest between sets to get er done fast, and that went away.
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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    i asked about the bi work because iirc, its helpul in injury prevention in the elbow. i helped for me. my elbow always felt bizarre on ohp and bench, then i started doin ez curls 3-4x8-10 with minimal rest between sets to get er done fast, and that went away.
    Probably couldn't hurt. I think the direct tricep crap from Monday may be related actually. Seems like any time I do any tri stuff my elbow gets janky.

    So, dumb question... Palms in or out on the ez bar lol srs.
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    Originally Posted by SoulZeppelin View Post
    Probably couldn't hurt. I think the direct tricep crap from Monday may be related actually. Seems like any time I do any tri stuff my elbow gets janky.

    So, dumb question... Palms in or out on the ez bar lol srs.
    the only things i can do for triceps without my elbows hurting are cgbp and OH single arm DB extensions.



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    To belted or not to belted, that is the question. Whether tis nobler in the rack to squat to depth with no belt or take up arms and smash some weight.

    Last Friday I hit my old belted 5 rep pb with no belt (5x285). Going to hit 5x295 tonight, but thinking about going back to belted for my top sets.
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    Originally Posted by SoulZeppelin View Post
    To belted or not to belted, that is the question. Whether tis nobler in the rack to squat to depth with no belt or take up arms and smash some weight.

    Last Friday I hit my old belted 5 rep pb with no belt (5x285). Going to hit 5x295 tonight, but thinking about going back to belted for my top sets.
    If you are doing the belt because you feel that you are safer that way, then do it, but it you are just belting up because you know it will be easy for a couple weeks, keep it off
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    Originally Posted by snrygo View Post
    If you are doing the belt because you feel that you are safer that way, then do it, but it you are just belting up because you know it will be easy for a couple weeks, keep it off
    And that's the crux of it. While I was 5/3/1ing I didn't feel a need for a belt because there really wasn't any accumulated fatigue on squat day but now that my squat (and p chain work in general) is higher frequency I feel like it might be a good idea. I somehow doubt 295 will be easy regardless lol.

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    Originally Posted by SoulZeppelin View Post
    And that's the crux of it. While I was 5/3/1ing I didn't feel a need for a belt because there really wasn't any accumulated fatigue on squat day but now that my squat (and p chain work in general) is higher frequency I feel like it might be a good idea. I somehow doubt 295 will be easy regardless lol.

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    Intensity squats: warmed up to 1x5x295

    press: warmed up to 3x5x85

    PC 5x3x130

    10lb 5 rep pr on the squats. Quite pleased.

    Didn't get to the gym until about 30 minutes before they closed so I really rushed the presses & cleans (virtually no rest) and blew off any accessories.
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    Sort of fukarounditis, sort of not...

    Was supposed to be volume squats day, so I warmed up my squats as usual. When I got to my working sets though (260) I just wasn't feeling it so I kept moving up until I settled in at

    5 doubles at 315

    These felt good, actually. So after that I loaded up 335. Unracked, walked it out, squatted, hit depth, started pushing out of the hole and just collapsed. It was a controlled descent, but there was nothing off the bottom. Oh well.

    Set up 4 plates for a pull, and got nowhere. Dropped it to 375 and pulled a single. Called it a day lol.
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    maxing out after working sets?madness!
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    ^^^^^^^^ yeah, but I was feeling my oats.

    Today:
    Bench: warmed up to 5x5x120
    Deadlift: 1x3x335
    Ez bar curls, tri rope pulldowns, face pulls
    Went 5 rounds on the heavy bag
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    Wow - I feel a lot more beaten up than usual today. During Monday's workout I didn't feel like the 5 doubles were as taxing as 5x5 but they've definitely taken a toll lol. Foam rolling here I come. Maybe go jogging. Looking forward to some recovery day goodness.
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    Recovery squats: Warmed up to 2x5x200

    Press: warmed up, 1x4x90 (+ 1 pp), 1x3x90 (+2 pp)

    DB shoulder press: 1x10x30s

    Ham curl: 3x10x140

    Chins: 1x9, 6, 5

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    Recovery squats feel so good. Press, as always, is a humbling experience. All in all, feelsgoodman.
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    Intensity squats: warmed up to 1x4x300

    Bench: warmed up to 1x4x135. Raged & stopped.

    PC 5x3x135

    Curls, tri rope pulldowns, face pulls

    So, not my best day. My fourth rep on squats was definitely the last one I was going to get, so I racked it. Bench made me mad for some reason so I didn't do it. PCs went up like an empty bar though lol.

    So, a few thoughts:
    Squat warmups are always something like 5x45,95,135,185... until I'm just below my working set(s). My last warmup is always a triple, then I get down to bidness. How do other people warm up?

    Pressing movements are sort of frustrating lately. Sorely tempted to do DB for a month on both then go back to BB to see if I can bust out. My arms are so long, my upper body is so weak and my shoulders suck. Maybe I just need to harden the fuk up...

    Also, I'm clearly too irresponsible to do my own conditioning. Talked to an old friend who sent me to another friend that owns a boxing gym. Really thinking about that, but its a major change so I don't know. If I did it I'd probably lift twice, box twice & do conditioning at the fight gym once a week but I really don't know. Totally different goals and all that. Blah blah blah navel gazing.
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    Better to train a little lighter and work on technique than skip your bench at all. Honestly there is probably a lot you can do with technique to get your bench caught up.... I don't recall if I've seen a video of you benching. Do you have one we can look at and give suggestions?
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    iwarm up with 50% for 5, then do 2 more warmups with equal jumps up to the top weight, generally.


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    Originally Posted by JasonDB View Post
    Better to train a little lighter and work on technique than skip your bench at all. Honestly there is probably a lot you can do with technique to get your bench caught up.... I don't recall if I've seen a video of you benching. Do you have one we can look at and give suggestions?
    I'll see if I can get one during a sesh next week, I've never actually videod my bench (nor had anyone look at it). Thanks.

    More than anything this was me blowing off steam in my log after a ****ty workout, not actually quitting benching lol.

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    iwarm up with 50% for 5, then do 2 more warmups with equal jumps up to the top weight, generally.


    good effort broseph.
    Thanks man. So like for 2 plates you'd do 1 plate for 2 sets, then something like 165 and 195 for 5 apeice (so roughly 20 total warmup reps)? I guess I do have a long warmup lol. Maybe I should try something shorter and see how my hips feel. I love my foreverlong warmups, but I wonder if they're taking something out of me during the actual work.
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    Originally Posted by SoulZeppelin View Post
    Thanks man. So like for 2 plates you'd do 1 plate for 2 sets, then something like 165 and 195 for 5 apeice (so roughly 20 total warmup reps)? I guess I do have a long warmup lol. Maybe I should try something shorter and see how my hips feel. I love my foreverlong warmups, but I wonder if they're taking something out of me during the actual work.
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    Whoa I just reread what I wrote and that is not the attitude I should have. I apologize to anyone reading this pityparty lol.

    It wasn't a crappy workout, it was actually pretty good just a little frustrating. I made some serious gains on my squat recently and missing a rep isn't a big deal - putting up 3 hundo is though. I'm actually really happy with last weeks 5x295, Mondays 5x2x315 and today's 4x300 - that's a helluva week. Just fatigued. Benching is a bit frustrating but that's a reason to work harder, not to get mad.

    Again, sorry to everyone in here. Rough week lol. I'm adjusting my attitude as we speak
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