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    Flexing as hard as possible (lulz) ~150
    You give me hope that my current attempt to lose fat isn't entirely pointless. Apparently it IS possible to look good at 5'10 150, so maybe I won't look too pathetic if I keep cutting.

    then I just have to put on 20 lbs of straight muscle like you did...that sounds easy...
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    I guess i'll share my modest progress pictures. Not near as impressive as most but i'm headed in the right direction finally.


    198 lbs flexing (this is after playing around in the gym for a couple of months)



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    Awesome work, all of you!

    @Phal, mind sharing some training/dietary approaches you used to get that lean, muscular while losing so much weight? Interested.

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    Originally Posted by foodpr0n View Post
    Phal = idol material.

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    Originally Posted by t12jm View Post
    You give me hope that my current attempt to lose fat isn't entirely pointless. Apparently it IS possible to look good at 5'10 150, so maybe I won't look too pathetic if I keep cutting.

    then I just have to put on 20 lbs of straight muscle like you did...that sounds easy...
    I originally wanted to just cut to 165, but I got there and said ew nope, I need to go lower.

    Originally Posted by Dexter3000 View Post
    Awesome work, all of you!

    @Phal, mind sharing some training/dietary approaches you used to get that lean, muscular while losing so much weight? Interested.

    Keep it up fella's.
    Pretty simple really, I ate ~180g protein, got my EFA's in, kept calories around 1,900 - 2,100 and stayed consistent.

    I went from first picture to the second from like Jan -> July/Aug or something so I lost it pretty fast. I wanted to get cutting over with since I was sick and tired of being a fatty.

    If I could go back I'd have hopped on a more strength oriented routine, much, much earlier.
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    Originally Posted by phal View Post
    Pretty simple really, I ate ~180g protein, got my EFA's in, kept calories around 1,900 - 2,100 and stayed consistent.

    I went from first picture to the second from like Jan -> July/Aug or something so I lost it pretty fast. I wanted to get cutting over with since I was sick and tired of being a fatty.

    If I could go back I'd have hopped on a more strength oriented routine, much, much earlier.

    Thanks man.

    Never went over 2100 calories in those 5-6 months? re-feeds or anything like it?

    And what do you mean with doing more strength oriented routine earlier; stopped cutting earlier (eat more) or change the training program earlier?
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    Originally Posted by Dexter3000 View Post
    Thanks man.

    Never went over 2100 calories in those 5-6 months? re-feeds or anything like it?

    And what do you mean with doing more strength oriented routine earlier; stopped cutting earlier (eat more) or change the training program earlier?
    Yes, there were days where I'd greatly go over 2,100, but it was unplanned. I could have just been lucky with my timing even though I doubt that made more than .05% of a difference.

    I was running Layne's older version (or skeleton, rather) of PHAT back then while I should have been doing madcows/SS/something. My strength levels didn't optimally go up.

    I also wish I increased my calories a little sooner. I had a fat kid mentality so it was hard on me to see the scale go up, and that fear kept me from making initial gains.

    Oh well, learned my lesson
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    I'm confused, was this within the last two years or back in '08?
    I registered back in 08 but didn't post/do anything for an entire year.

    I went from first picture to the second in 2009, maintained for the rest of the year since it was a pretty big deal to me.

    Then gained 18 - 20 lbs in the next ~2 years.
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    Originally Posted by phal View Post



    Flexing as hard as possible (lulz) ~150
    Very interesting how different the same weight can look on different people of the same height. Just for reference, I looked borderline emaciated at 150, while you look pretty good.
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    Originally Posted by phal View Post
    I registered back in 08 but didn't post/do anything for an entire year.

    I went from first picture to the second in 2009, maintained for the rest of the year since it was a pretty big deal to me.

    Then gained 18 - 20 lbs in the next ~2 years.
    I'm curious what your lifts were like at 150? Did you have trouble keeping them high at a lower weight?
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    Larger bone frame?



    Incredible. The first time I read a post by you where you said you were fat before, I rolled my eyes and thought you were joking. The difference is so huge that I could never tell you were fat once.
    A lot of people IRL don't even know I was fat before & I always enjoy meeting old friends. I have a relatively large bone frame but I suppose small joints, I don't know. I just work with what I have lol.

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    I'm curious what your lifts were like at 150? Did you have trouble keeping them high at a lower weight?
    IIRC Bench: ~250
    Squat: ~295 (arguable, since my depth was terrible)
    DL: 415

    ? It's been so long. I trained for a while and increased those at around the same weight but it got to a point where I needed/wanted to put on weight. (275/315/450)

    This I why I wish I hopped on a strength routine instead of dilly-dallying because I've made such huge strides even just in the last 6 - 8 months. (from doing sheiko/smolov)
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    IIRC Bench: ~250
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    nice. I'm hoping to keep the stats in my sig while dropping to 155-160, so you're affirming things for me on several levels. Might lose some strength, but that matters significantly less to a former fatass like me.
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    You sound like me, large bones with smaller joints, FML. lol Have you ever had an old friend walk by you or bump into you and not recognize you? It feels so ****ty. I had one older friend I hadn't seen in a few years look at me at a store and just shake his head "Nah, can't be him." a few months ago. It felt good but at the same time it feels bad.
    I've had some old highschool acquaintances come in to work and not recognize me, usually kind of funny. Since, just going to be completely honest here, 75% of the people from HS that I know have put on ~15+ lbs.

    It was kind of cool having a 'second chance' if you want to call it that. Not that any of my real friends treated me ANY differently.

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    nice. I'm hoping to keep the stats in my sig while dropping to 155-160, so you're affirming things for me on several levels. Might lose some strength, but that matters significantly less to a former fatass like me.
    You should, pretty easily. I basically cut down to that picture by only doing BW exercises and using ~300 lbs of weights.

    I only ever bench pressed when I was fat and I thought I was strong being able to do 250, the first day I weighed myself at 150, I max'd out at 250.
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    What do you mean by second chance? Second chance at having a better life? If so, yeah I get what you're trying to say. The people I knew in high school have either put on a little weight like your example or way more. The example I gave was like back in October, and it's happened more as I've leaned out. I think people just remember the worst of others and forget the good. It's been about 4 years, but hell, my looks now and at the end of school haven't changed much, except I'm not as big and ripped now as I was then. I just learned to accept that issue with people. Those who I've stayed in contact with haven't treated me differently. You know who your real friends are.

    But yeah, if your current progress is based on the first 25 or so pounds of noob gains, can't imagine how thick, tight and solid you'll be in a few years. The only giveaway that you may have been overweight/obese is your arm pit area folded in your pics, otherwise I wouldn't be able to tell. Unless you've got stretchmarks.
    Yeah, I always thought I'd just be this fat-ass and I'd never have abs or be fit. That picture was at the absolute PEAK of my heaviest, literally that next week I started to educate myself on here.

    I carry all/most of my stretch marks in the armpit area :P but whatever, it reminds me of where I came from.
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    It's your battle scars, man. Wear 'em with pride. Yes, I had the same exact thoughts when I was a teen. Later on when I was older, I recalled my bitching and LOL'd in real life and just called myself a pussy for being like that. You don't get anywhere in this hobby without pushing yourself.
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    I've got so many damn stretch marks on my ass, it looks like I have more stripes than Tony the f*cking Tiger. Definitely NOT aesthetic.
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    Dude, that's really something I don't want to know...
    Just saying that I don't wear some of my battle scars with pride.
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    Originally Posted by riaden View Post
    OK well this is huge for me putting some pics up, cause i feel very uncomfortable. but i want to help other people overcome!
    After a 2year stuggle or mental illness, under eating over exercing, running 100mile per week, week after week. being on a death bed. being in hospital twice. being in a weight mangement for two weeks. depression, aniexty, putting my family and friends through hell, i think im starting to make progress.
    i still have a long way to go, not just pshysical, but mental as well. i only put this up to show other people struggling with an ED that it is possible to overcome!

    i dont weigh myself, i dont count cals, i just go by the mirror. and i know im looking better! thanks your you support Determined! and also other fellow members! thanks for looking!



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    ^^ I know that feel as well.

    BRB getting stopped at airport customs, clubs etc. because my old fat-face is on my ID and they dont think it's me.

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    I Must find my pics. I have numbers all over the place. I'll post numbers now and do my best to find pics. I just don't wanna forget :
    Played golf in high school: from 9th to the middle of senior year I was 125-130 lbs at 5'10-5'11. Started lifting

    One yr later freshman college: first bulk attempt went to 217 lbs. looked like a diff person, really chubby for the first time in life. Lol
    Another yr later sophomore college: same 217 little less BF
    Few months later. 180-190
    Like 6 months later( nov or dec 2009) 165 7% BF. felt really lanky as I have long legs and never concentrated on them

    Maintained 170-180 until fall 2011
    Now: 230. Lol
    I have pics but I'm gonna have to find them. I have 2 pics of me at 7% taken on a cheap camera but still it's ok

    These numbers are weird but it's been fun going from lanky twig to slightly bigger . Looking forward to posting all the pics.
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    Here is a photo from March of last year at 206 lbs:




    Here are two current photo's from March of this year @ 189 lbs:



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    Originally Posted by jdjprimer19 View Post
    Here is a photo from March of last year at 206 lbs:

    [img]http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/146/04e54b7ab5be4d5f8f2ba16fc3b94d60/l.jpg[img]


    Here are two current photo's from March of this year @ 189 lbs:

    [img]http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/143/7b830125797646eaa6a1ecce20369922/l.jpg[img]

    [img]http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/151/5b4eb89394684a839bb3514aa3cc1bee/l.jpg[/mg]
    Awesome work man!

    Routine and diet?
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    Originally Posted by dexter3000 View Post
    awesome work man!

    Routine and diet?
    5/3/1 & Intermittent Fasting.
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    Originally Posted by jdjprimer19 View Post
    5/3/1 & Intermittent Fasting.
    IF really isn't a diet, so to say it's a schedule for eating more than anything else. I follow an IF schedule naturally since I'm not hungry right when I wake up.
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    Originally Posted by tswdan View Post
    IF really isn't a diet, so to say it's a schedule for eating more than anything else. I follow an IF schedule naturally since I'm not hungry right when I wake up.
    A diet is simply a way of eating.
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