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    does DHT = Acne?... or is it estrogen? (srs)

    which one is it... ive always read DHT is responsible for androgenic sides like hair growth and acne therefore if i take a DHT blocker will this **** go away? or is it estrogen.. makes sense since if testosterone = acne then those on 1g/day would be pizza faces. also read tech forums everyone complains about acne in PCT and post PCT when estrogen levels are highest. they say they have less acne on cycle when test is highest.

    i seem to also have got acne right around the same time i got slightly puffy nipples.. maybe it is the ****in estrogen chemicals in our water nd shiet thats causing this. wat u think misc?

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    Originally Posted by tony567 View Post
    which one is it... ive always read DHT is responsible for androgenic sides like hair growth and acne therefore if i take a DHT blocker will this **** go away? or is it estrogen.. makes sense since if testosterone = acne then those on 1g/day would be pizza faces. also read tech forums everyone complains about acne in PCT and post PCT when estrogen levels are highest. they say they have less acne on cycle when test is highest.

    i seem to also have got acne right around the same time i got slightly puffy nipples.. maybe it is the ****in estrogen chemicals in our water nd shiet thats causing this. wat u think misc?

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    Originally Posted by Nefariousx1 View Post
    genetics, other wise there would be tons of clinically proven pills for women to grow bigger tits.

    wat? u talkin about tech pills or waht?
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    Androgens.

    U get puffy nipples because ur testosterone is high. Doesnt make sense eh?

    When ur testosterone is high your body makes more estrogens to keep the hormones in balance.

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    excess test converts to dht.

    blocking dht will reduce/eliminate your libido and increase lethargy.
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    Originally Posted by UnflappedAcorn View Post
    excess test converts to dht.

    blocking dht will reduce/eliminate your libido and increase lethargy.
    wood rather have no libidio and be tired as fuark then have no hair.
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    Originally Posted by lolfb View Post
    wood rather have no libidio and be tired as fuark then have no hair.
    dht isn't the only source of hair loss.

    any kind of hormonal fluctuation, natural or synthetic, would result in hair loss as well.
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    Originally Posted by Atka View Post
    Androgens.

    U get puffy nipples because ur testosterone is high. Doesnt make sense eh?

    When ur testosterone is high your body makes more estrogens to keep the hormones in balance.

    my broscience.
    so its the estrogen from the excess test that caused acne? or just puffy nipples?
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    No one knows what causes acne.
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    Originally Posted by tony567 View Post
    which one is it... ive always read DHT is responsible for androgenic sides like hair growth and acne therefore if i take a DHT blocker will this **** go away? or is it estrogen.. makes sense since if testosterone = acne then those on 1g/day would be pizza faces. also read tech forums everyone complains about acne in PCT and post PCT when estrogen levels are highest. they say they have less acne on cycle when test is highest.

    i seem to also have got acne right around the same time i got slightly puffy nipples.. maybe it is the ****in estrogen chemicals in our water nd shiet thats causing this. wat u think misc?

    /rant
    It all depends on how your body utilizes Testosterone. Higher test can attribute to oily skin and bacteria in your pores. It also has to do with the fluctuation of hormones, PCT wise. Some people don't get acne, others look like a Dominoes family special.

    Puffy nips can be a result of estrogen, prolactin, water bloat, or progesterone. A clean diet in greens and meats can lessen your chances of having both these problems.
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    Originally Posted by tony567 View Post
    so its the estrogen from the excess test that caused acne? or just puffy nipples?
    any CHANGE in hormone leveles can cause acne.

    some people dont get acne on cycle bc they keep their hormonal levels very constant
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    Originally Posted by Atka View Post
    Androgens.

    U get puffy nipples because ur testosterone is high. Doesnt make sense eh?

    When ur testosterone is high your body makes more estrogens to keep the hormones in balance.

    my broscience.
    Actually the body converts the testosterone to estrogen with the enzyme aromatase, a process called aromatization. Probably what you meant, but he doesn't exactly create more E, but changes current T to E.

    This can be countered with so called aromatize inhibitors.
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    Originally Posted by NMH View Post
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    this. dht is very androgenic, more so than testosterone. however, mpb(male pattern baldness) is a genetic trait that is carried though the female (x) chromosone.(is it not??) acne is caused by a lot of things that tech user's encounter. whether is be high testosterone, fluctuating hormone levels, dht, estrogen/progestrones, etc. testosterone is going to stimulate more sweat gland activity leading to oily skin which is obviously no good for acne. The unnatural and high levels of testosterone will further lead to higher levels of dht and estrogen due to the 5a-reductases and the aromatize enzymes, respectively. higher estrogen levels will definitely lead to side effects such as bloat and acne which are both rather unpreferable. historically, nothing or SERMS (selective enzyme receptor modulators) have been used.however, we now realize that AI's (aromoatize inhibitors) are more effective and preferable. they act by inhibiting/eliminating the enzymes that convert testosterone to estrogen(aka aromatize enzyme). if you are truly worried about trying to keep you acne to a miniumum, try to drink plenty of water and wach your face twice a day. also,try to keep your sugar consumtion to a minimum.
    but in the end, genetics play a HUGE role in this. i have friends who can miss a shower and eat lots of junk for a day or two and break out while other friends can bicycle and stay nearly perfect.
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