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    Also, I would suggest people watch the movie "Johnny Got His Gun", and ask yourself if you would "endure and be optimistic" if you were in that condition.
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    people always say 'what about those who love and care for the person blah blah' maybe if those people acted liked it the people wouldnt of killed themselves.

    I personally believe one should always endure, no matter what. but if someone makes the decision to end their life thats their right. you have to be in a pretty hopeless situation to feel that way
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    if youre going to kill yourself, at least go out in style

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    On another note, I don't think people should jump off buildings into a busy street. That's just rude.
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    cause i'd rather not have ppl i care about kill themselves
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    Originally Posted by heykiddo View Post
    On another note, I don't think people should jump off buildings into a busy street. That's just rude.
    wood jump off a building with my dink stapled to the roof just to land on a piece of gum that was chewed by a guy that sat on a bus seat that you were on five years ago
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    Most people, when they think of suicide, think of some stupid TV drama type suicide. If a person has thought long and hard about it, and is of sound mind and sound reasoning, it is not selfish. Giving up hope on a terminal cancer is not illogical. If tumors have spread to your lungs, liver, brain, etc, then no miracle is going to cure you, period. Never.

    Also, consider other societies. In Japan, suicide was an honorable option to some things. Perhaps death would be preferable to some sort of status that would ostracize you and your family permanently. If you were some massive child molester or killer that went to prison, would you really want you and your family to suffer from that stigma forever?

    Or look at Tibetan monks that self immolate. Not all suicide is about whining about something irrelevant. Sometimes it's choosing your own way to go out.



    Also, people that decide to "endure, never give up, blahblah" arent brave, they're more likely just scared of death.
    Monks live alone or with other monks. Nobody is dependent on them emotionally or financially. Just sayin

    If you were child molester then I think it's fcked up but no I don't think you should commit suicide just because you are afraid your family will find out. They'll find out either way whether you are dead or alive. If you kill yourself they'll hate you forever. If you are alive you can change yourself and do some deeds that'll prove that you have changed.

    When you tell yourself "Don't give up" it's called self motivation. It has nothing to do with scared of death.
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    Originally Posted by bertstare101 View Post
    Monks live alone or with other monks. Nobody is dependent on them emotionally or financially. Just sayin

    If you were child molester then I think it's fcked up but no I don't think you should commit suicide just because you are afraid your family will find out. They'll find out either way whether you are dead or alive. If you kill yourself they'll hate you forever. If you are alive you can change yourself and do some deeds that'll prove that you have changed.
    How is forcing someone in pain to live out of guilt any less "selfish" than killing yourself and causing them emotional inconvenience?
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    Affects people around you. Also, life is precious and shouldn't be simply thrown away.
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    because life is seen as a gift, and killing yourself is just throwing it away.

    like getting a present for Christmas and throwing in the bin.
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    Originally Posted by Foze View Post
    because life is seen as a gift, and killing yourself is just throwing it away.

    like getting a present for Christmas and throwing in the bin.
    if someone gives me a cancerous brain tumor for Christmas, I should put it on the mantle, amirite
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    wood jump off a building with my dink stapled to the roof just to land on a piece of gum that was chewed by a guy that sat on a bus seat that you were on five years ago
    heh.....I lollipopped.

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    because life is seen as a gift, and killing yourself is just throwing it away.

    like getting a present for Christmas and throwing in the bin.
    There are other ways to throw away a life, people do it erryday.
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    because god said so, seriously thats why.

    Stupid religious crap being carried over into law.

    You want to kill yourself, go do it. After watching my mom die slowly starving to death from cancer. All you anti-suicide people can suck my dick.
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    You're hurting people you shouldn't want to hurt. If you have no friends or family and want to check out then I can't really see a problem with it. Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions.
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    How is forcing someone in pain to live out of guilt any less "selfish" than killing yourself and causing them emotional inconvenience?
    You can't really force someone to live. If they decide to kill themselves they will when you are not around. It's what they believe in but I am just saying it's wrong. Emotional inconvenience goes away with time..it won't be there forever no matter how hardcore you think it is. At least that's what I have learned from life.

    p.s: you don't know what you would get once you die...it might be worse than what you are suffering right now.
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    Originally Posted by bertstare101 View Post
    You can't really force someone to live. If they decide to kill themselves they will when you are not around. It's what they believe in but I am just saying it's wrong. Emotional inconvenience goes away with time..it won't be there forever no matter how hardcore you think it is. At least that's what I have learned from life
    You can guilt them into living. That sort of psychological pressure is way worse imo, because it unfairly causes a person contemplating suicide even more pain.

    And yes, emotional inconvenience goes away, which is why hurting the feelings of your loved ones shouldn't be your sole motivation to stay alive. You will die eventually, and they will still be sad, so it's not sparing them of that, just changing the schedule of it.
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    You can guilt them into living. That sort of psychological pressure is way worse imo, because it unfairly causes a person contemplating suicide even more pain.

    And yes, emotional inconvenience goes away, which is why hurting the feelings of your loved ones shouldn't be your sole motivation to stay alive. You will die eventually, and they will still be sad, so it's not sparing them of that, just changing the schedule of it.
    I can see what you are saying..I guess if someone wants to commit a suicide they should wait for year and see if anything changes and make sure they put all the effort to change it. If nothing changes then they should go for it and I am pretty sure it would unless they are brain dead by caused of some accident. There is no turning back once you die and you need to keep that in check. You can't come back and try to change anything so you have to do it before you kill yourself cause if you miss it then you miss it.

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    Originally Posted by kyble View Post
    its frowned upon because of the hurt it causes to people that love you, but still, life goes on...
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    Originally Posted by bertstare101 View Post
    I can see what you are saying..I guess if someone wants to commit a suicide they should wait for year and see if anything changes and make sure they put all the effort necessary to make good deeds. If nothing changes then they should go for it and I am pretty sure it would unless they are brain dead by caused of some accident.
    I'm not saying I support some random miscer getting depressed over his 6 month relationship ending or something equally petty. Of course suicide should only be considered after logically weighing the situation. Also, if by the good deeds and after life thing, you are insinuating that they should take some sort of theism into consideration, you have to realize that such things arent a priority for everyone.


    Anyway, on further note, even if someone does kill themselves for some stupid reason, I think it's not right to call them selfish and cowards. It's simply tragic and a pity that they chose to make a rash decision in an abnormal state of mind.
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    I Of course suicide should only be considered after logically weighing the situation.


    Strong logic. Read my post on worst day of my life. you ****.
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    Originally Posted by Wilsbrah View Post


    Strong logic. Read my post on worst day of my life. you ****.
    lol, knew you would get so butthurt you would post that. If you're so sad about a neg, maybe it's time to consider your options.

    Also, just because your father killed himself does not make you an expert about every single persons motivations to commit suicide.
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    lol, knew you would get so butthurt you would post that. If you're so sad about it, maybe it's time to consider your options.

    Also, just because your father killed himself does not make you an expert about every single persons motivations to commit suicide.
    come at me.
    when did i say i was an expert? lulz.

    Edit; it has nothing to do with being negged or repped, its about your comment.

    Also, in your original reply which i quoted you said nothing about a 'neg'.
    Come at me.
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    i think its more selfish for people to expect you to stay living when you dont want to anymore.
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    ive contemplated suicide in the past... and recently again. truth is, im an emotional person.. it's something i cant control... my family always control my life, even when they think its best for me etc... i want to live my life and do what i want...

    ive had countless fights and arguments were i go crazy and mental (srs) and i burst out crying (inb4 age 20).

    im fuked in the head, and im contemplating big time...

    I dont think it's selfish... i find the people around me (who apparently love me) want me to do everything there way... im constantly shut down in life and ridiculed by others..

    only thing that stops me is my baby sister (age 9). I love her so much i'd give my life for her (srs) she is the best thing in my life...
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    agreed.. ones own life belong to him and him only. we should have the choice to take our own lives for whatever reason if we so choose.


    ...but the vast majority of times are due to mental illness


    anyway ultimately the way i see it is that we have a ****ing eternity to be dead. and max maybe 100+ years at that to be alive ? (not counting the 1/3 that were sleeping)

    i say deal with it
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