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    Arrow Why is the act of suicide frowned upon?

    I don't see why there is such a social stigma attached to suicide. When I've had enough I'll be checking out, I honestly couldn't give a **** what happens after that, as far as other people are concerned. Some people have the ability to reason with me on a deeper level but the majority can kiss my ****ing ass. I see suicide as switching off a TV cause the same repeats have been on for 19 years straight. If suicide's for wimps then why isnt russian roulette an olympic event, surely a non-wimp would play?
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    cause its the easy way out mate
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    you make your friends and family carry the burden of your death for the rest of their lives too. suicidal bros, please, stay safe and get professional help.
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    Because its giving up. Enduring > giving up
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    x2 on leaving your family with the mess of both the act and the void left.


    Also it's a social moral and really boils down to the fact that it's been ingrained in us that it's "wrong". Basically it comes down to the next guy either being indoctrinated into belief that it's wrong or it's his own lack of the balls to do it himself if it came down to it.


    I think it's your life and you should do what's right for you regardless of what other people think and the ONLY thing I disagree with about suicide is leaving your loved ones like that but ultimately it's your life so do you.
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    Remember the guy who gave up in the race? Exactly, no body does. Suicide is giving up on life and no body likes people who give up.

    Suicide = giving up on life, giving up on people who cares for you, giving on on your dreams

    On that note. I want to dedicate this song to everyone who has suicidal thoughts

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    Originally Posted by L0lJ0ker3 View Post
    Because its giving up. Enduring > giving up
    It's people like you that just don't understand. Enduring something like that day in day out, potentially for the rest of your life is something no one should have to do.
    Why should someone have to continue doing something they do not enjoy, they are unhappy with, and in a lot of cases have no control over. Sure it might be the easy way out, but there is really no benefit to anyone by 'enduring' it on a personal level.
    It's like telling a little girl who's getting raped to just sit there and endure it and not do anything to try and stop it.
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    western society frowns on it. that's about it. people say it's abandoning your family, etc, bull**** like that, but if you're diagnosed with terminal cancer or something, I'm sure that lingering around in a year of extreme pain just to leave your family with a metric ton of bills and such because you and they are too selfish to come to grips with the situation is fairly selfish in it's own right.
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    The stigma and taboo surrounding suicide is very much a universal notion. Instilled into both Western and Eastern culture is the view that suicide is an act of ultimate betrayal. It has nothing to do with how difficult or hard it is to commit suicide. View suicide from an ego-less perspective. You are leaving behind everything. Entering the realm of death of which we do not know what will happen. Ask yourself this. Why are you alive right now.

    The reason is you choose to. And if you ask anyone who has terminal cancer if they could live on without pain. They would choose to. Suicide is an act of self-pity. A purely selfish decision in almost all circumstances. However, i do agree with Anesthetising if the individual circumstances is suitable. E.g. quadraplegic, no mouth movement. Just my two cents
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    I don't really have a problem with it because we're all going to die anyway and be forgotten. Who cares? If life isn't worth living, who am I to tell you to carry on because it will hurt my feelings? Do what you want.

    I also think it takes a lot of courage to end your life.

    It's also frowned upon because of religion and it's stupidity.
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    For some people it's bad for some people it's good for example suicide bombers.

    So apparently it's neither good nor bad but just what you think of it.
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    Originally Posted by itanimulli View Post
    The stigma and taboo surrounding suicide is very much a universal notion. Instilled into both Western and Eastern culture is the view that suicide is an act of ultimate betrayal. It has nothing to do with how difficult or hard it is to commit suicide. View suicide from an ego-less perspective. You are leaving behind everything. Entering the realm of death of which we do not know what will happen. Ask yourself this. Why are you alive right now.

    The reason is you choose to. And if you ask anyone who has terminal cancer if they could live on without pain. They would choose to. Suicide is an act of self-pity. A purely selfish decision in almost all circumstances. However, i do agree with Anesthetising if the individual circumstances is suitable. E.g. quadraplegic, no mouth movement. Just my two cents
    That makes no sense. Self-pity suicide? Humans try desperately to live. It would be more selfish to keep living out of some illogical instinct to cower and lick your wounds in the hopes you get better from something you have no chance of surviving.
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    Originally Posted by Chezdon View Post
    I don't really have a problem with it because we're all going to die anyway and be forgotten. Who cares? If life isn't worth living, who am I to tell you to carry on because it will hurt my feelings? Do what you want.

    I also think it takes a lot of courage to end your life.

    It's also frowned upon because of religion and it's stupidity.
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    That makes no sense. Self-pity suicide? Humans try desperately to live. It would be more selfish to keep living out of some illogical instinct to cower and lick your wounds in the hopes you get better from something you have no chance of surviving.
    Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, a day or a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place.
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    You are already dead, why would you care about the stupid stigma. Plus society stigmatizes you for everything, being poor or rich, short or tall, pothead/drug addict/alcoholic, badass or nice guy etc. Fuk this fukkin sh!t im gonna murder people when I get the chance
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    i agree.
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    Originally Posted by meatbrah View Post
    you make your friends and family carry the burden of your death for the rest of their lives too. suicidal bros, please, stay safe and get professional help.
    This.

    Almost did it this time last year, so glad I didn't

    You hurt the ones that actually care about you in the worst possible way imaginable, whilst making those that hate you happy. Worst deal ever.


    Plus overcoming your problems and winning > escaping from them via death
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    Originally Posted by L0lJ0ker3 View Post
    Because its giving up. Enduring > giving up
    strong logic, you die anyway

    its frowned upon because of the hurt it causes to people that love you, but still, life goes on...
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    Originally Posted by abbott3 View Post
    cause its the easy way out mate
    so why do you think people should have it hard? Why do they have to suffer what they are going through any longer?

    If you think it's because of self-respect, integrity, honor, discipline...etc any other type of noble goal, they don't mean shyt once people are dead. Life is not fair, some people have it harder than others, what is so bad about ending it for themselves?
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    Originally Posted by bertstare101 View Post
    Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, a day or a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place.
    Yeah, death. Saying that pain will go away is idealistic and illogical. Saying it will hurt the people around you simply speaks of their own faults and their inability to let go. it's reminiscent of a family keeping the body of their loved one on life support even though it is brain dead.

    Note, I'm talking about suicide with good reason, not little Mary Sue taking a bunch of advil because her highschool boyfriend left her.
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    It's selfish.
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    Originally Posted by bertstare101 View Post
    Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, a day or a year but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place.

    Strong knowledge of the pain brought by incurable or inoperable diseases.
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    Originally Posted by RunThenRunMore View Post
    It's selfish.
    depends on the situation

    its selfish for multiply people to let a suffering indiviual live when he wants to die. the person didn't choose to be born, the parents made that decision for him/her
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    Originally Posted by nervousfarter View Post
    If suicide's for wimps then why isnt russian roulette an olympic event, surely a non-wimp would play?
    All the competitors died in training
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    Originally Posted by Archangel_Lost View Post
    Yeah, death. Saying that pain will go away is idealistic and illogical. Saying it will hurt the people around you simply speaks of their own faults and their inability to let go. it's reminiscent of a family keeping the body of their loved one on life support even though it is brain dead.

    Note, I'm talking about suicide with good reason, not little Mary Sue taking a bunch of advil because her highschool boyfriend left her.
    Well if you are brain dead and you have tried all the options available and you can't find a solution then it's okay to commit suicide. One should never give up hope is how I think. For instance: Man can't support his family so he commits suicide I think that's totally retarded or someone who doesn't get a admission in university and he commits suicide.

    There are only few reasons when I can think suicide is okay but most reasons why people commit suicide is not justifiable (meaning able to justify I don't know how da fck you spell it)
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    Originally Posted by RunThenRunMore View Post
    It's selfish.
    aren't we all?

    what is so bad about being selfish?

    You can't take your own life, the one you didn't ask for, because it might hurt others? Maybe other people are so selfish that they have programmed you into thinking that your own life isn't yours to live or take
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    Originally Posted by xSlick1x View Post
    Strong knowledge of the pain brought by incurable or inoperable diseases.
    I was talking about PAIN as in people who commit suicide because of failure in life. Incurable disease is totally different story but at the same time if you don't give up hope then may be they'll find a solution for that so called incurable disease.
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    Originally Posted by bertstare101 View Post
    Well if you are brain dead and you have tried all the options available and you can't find a solution then it's okay to commit suicide. One should never give up hope is how I think. For instance: Man can't support his family so he commits suicide I think that's totally retarded or someone who doesn't get a admission in university and he commits suicide.

    There are only few reasons when I can think suicide is okay but most reasons why people commit suicide is not justifiable (meaning able to justify I don't know how da fck you spell it)
    Most people, when they think of suicide, think of some stupid TV drama type suicide. If a person has thought long and hard about it, and is of sound mind and sound reasoning, it is not selfish. Giving up hope on a terminal cancer is not illogical. If tumors have spread to your lungs, liver, brain, etc, then no miracle is going to cure you, period. Never.

    Also, consider other societies. In Japan, suicide was an honorable option to some things. Perhaps death would be preferable to some sort of status that would ostracize you and your family permanently. If you were some massive child molester or killer that went to prison, would you really want you and your family to suffer from that stigma forever?

    Or look at Tibetan monks that self immolate. Not all suicide is about whining about something irrelevant. Sometimes it's choosing your own way to go out.



    Also, people that decide to "endure, never give up, blahblah" arent brave, they're more likely just scared of death.
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    Not saying one way or the other whether I agree, just speaking to the argument of what it does to others. People who are depressed enough to want to kill themselves often may do other "selfish" things to destroy themselves such as drugs and other forms of addictions, isolation, abusiveness or situations where they are abused, etc or worse, all of which hurt or devastate any people who care. Or the depression just debilitates them in a way that also causes suffering for people who care, as does simply witnessing someone you love in such deep agony and being unable to do a thing about it.

    So if the argument is what it does to the people around them, what difference does it ultimately make for the people who care what outlet someone who wants to destroy themselves chooses if they truly can't or won't be helped? Also, by this argument what if a person has no one who cares about them, is it then okay?

    As far as it being a cop out or any of those things, maybe it is. But is it really any more or less so than any other form of total self-destruction except in its finality?

    Just saying, making judgement calls about suicide as an observer can be akin to opinions on abortion (from a pro-life perspective). 'Do not kill that baby! I don't care what the circumstances are, that baby must live!' Then once the baby has lived, who cares what happens to it, what it's life is like, or if it endures great suffering.
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