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    What type of BCAA would you recommend for weight lifting?

    There are so many types.

    Also would you take them individually? or buy one that has multiple amino acids in it?

    Could someone please explain BCAA's in a bit more detail
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    There are many types but the most studied is a 2:1:1 ratio. Some have added benefits like electrolytes like ErgoBlast. People use them mostly when cutting calories and when training fasted or in between meals.
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    Are you cutting or bulking? If cutting I would suggest an amino product such as Amino Build. If bulking, I would spend my money else where.
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    Generally BCAAs are used for their recovery aspect. People tend to use BCAAs either pre workout or intra workout and in between meals as a drink that will help with recovery. Also they thought to be more beneficial for fasted training.

    There are a multitude of BCAA products you could chose from. The best bet would be find one that you feel will taste great.

    Here are a few companies that make them, check out the products find a flavor you like and give one a go. Ergochain from Ergogenix, Compete from iForce Nutrition, Amino IV from PES, Xtend from Scivation.
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    Look for one that has at least 6g of bcaa in the 2:1:1 ratio, added goodies are always nice as well. Xtend has 7g bcaa in the 2:1:1 ratio, as well as Citrulline, glutamine, and electrolytes. Also featuring 11 flavors with 30 and 90 serving tubs.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/sv/xtend.html

    You should know though that building muscle is going to come from a caloric surplus not supplements. You will need to stay 300-500 calories above maintenance to build muscle.

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    Steakend is my fav BCAA product. It contains all essential amino acids + vitamins, minerals and other goodies. The Grilled Veal flavor is delicious. Yeah, I would recommend it for weight lifting!
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    Originally Posted by richardmf View Post
    What type of BCAA would you recommend for weight lifting?

    There are so many types.

    Also would you take them individually? or buy one that has multiple amino acids in it?

    Could someone please explain BCAA's in a bit more detail
    if you are 1) not training fasted or 2) not going to dose them between meals as a bolus it may not benefit you
    also if you are meeting protein intake in the 24 hour period adding BCAA's wont merit you much in the long run

    If you do not need them as stated above it would be better to invest in the essentials (Whey, creatine, fishoil, and mulit)

    For a pure BCAA product
    Scivation Xtend
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    Alpha Amino

    all great choices.
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    Personally I prefer BCAA + EAA which you can get both in Purple Wrath. Usually use it during intense cutting phases.
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    You're going to hear a lot of back / forth about whether or not it benefits you unless you're fasted, blah blah.
    Do what you think is best for you OP. 2:1:1 ratio is pretty popular, so are the 3:1:1

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    I personally enjot them while on a cut or when the sweet tooth kicks up
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    scivation xtend bcaas has a scientifically studied 2:1:1 ratio and includes electrolytes and citrulline malate

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    BCAA'S will only be beneficial if you are training in a fasted state or if you are using them as a bolus between meals 4-6 hours apart. If not they would basically be useless.

    If you do plan on using them in 1 of the 2 ways I described above some great options are Alpha Amino, Compete, Best BCAA, Amino Recovery or Amino IV
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    Originally Posted by Bigdumogre View Post
    There are many types but the most studied is a 2:1:1 ratio. Some have added benefits like electrolytes like ErgoBlast. People use them mostly when cutting calories and when training fasted or in between meals.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/er.../ergogenix.htm
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    You neglected to mention our wildberry pomegranate flavor available as of today

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    I prefer EAA's if using them intra-workout. Purple Wraath and Amino IV are two great choices. I believe Prime has bulk EAA's as well.

    Here's our Amino IV write-up. Let me know if you have any questions.

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    We live in a day and age in which optimizing performance, recovery, and results are integral to every meal we eat and supplement we consume. We don’t just consume post-workout protein and call it a day…we’ve learned from science that taking separate, free-form amino acids can give you that extra edge to take your progress to the next level.

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    The body runs off what we call Essential Amino Acids. These are amino acids that your body cannot make on its own. They must be consumed via diet. You see, when your body goes to make new protein, like the protein that make up your muscles, it requires that all of the 9 essential amino acids be present, not just the 3 BCAAs.

    Your body starts by making muscle protein to build muscle mass. It incorporates the BCAAs into the growing protein chains, and then your genetic code calls for an essential amino acid. So what happens if you don’t have EAAs present?

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    1. Trepanowski, John F., Tyler M. Farney, Cameron G. Mccarthy, Brian K. Schilling, Stuart A. Craig, and Richard J. Bloomer. "The Effects of Chronic Betaine Supplementation on Exercise Performance, Skeletal Muscle Oxygen Saturation and Associated Biochemical Parameters in Resistance Trained Men." Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research 25.12 (2011): 3461-471. Web.

    2. Lee, Elaine C., Carl M. Maresh, William J. Kraemer, Linda M. Yamamoto, Disa L. Hatfield, Brooke L. Bailey, Lawrence E. Armstrong, Jeff S. Volek, Brendon P. Mcdermott, and Stuart As Craig. "Ergogenic Effects of Betaine Supplementation on Strength and Power Performance." Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 7.1 (2010): 27. Web.

    3. Pryor, J. Luke, Stuart As Craig, and Thomas Swensen. "Effect of Betaine Supplementation on Cycling Sprint Performance." Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 9.1 (2012): 12. Web.

    4. Hoffman, Jay R., Nicholas A. Ratamess, Jie Kang, Adam M. Gonzalez, Noah A. Beller, and Stuart A S Craig. "Effect of 15 Days of Betaine Ingestion on Concentric and Eccentric Force Outputs During Isokinetic Exercise." Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research 25.8 (2011): 2235-241. Web.

    5. Apicella, Jenna M., Elaine C. Lee, Brooke L. Bailey, Catherine Saenz, Jeffrey M. Anderson, Stuart A. S. Craig, William J. Kraemer, Jeff S. Volek, and Carl M. Maresh. "Betaine Supplementation Enhances Anabolic Endocrine and Akt Signaling in Response to Acute Bouts of Exercise." European Journal of Applied Physiology 113.3 (2013): 793-802. Web.

    6. Candow, Darren, Philip Chilibeck, Darren Burke, Shawn Davison, and Truis Smith-Palmer. "Effect of Glutamine Supplementation Combined with Resistance Training in Young Adults." European Journal of Applied Physiology 86.2 (2001): 142-49. Web.

    7. Phillips, George C. "Glutamine: The Nonessential Amino Acid for Performance Enhancement." Current Sports Medicine Reports 6.4 (2007): 265-68. Web.

    8. Harris, Roger C., Jay R. Hoffman, Adrian Allsopp, and Naomi B.h. Routledge. "L-glutamine Absorption Is Enhanced after Ingestion of L-alanylglutamine Compared with the Free Amino Acid or Wheat Protein." Nutrition Research 32.4 (2012): 272-77. Web.

    9. Hoffman, Jay R., David R. Williams, Nadia S. Emerson, Mattan W. Hoffman, Adam J. Wells, Daniele M. Mcveigh, William P. Mccormack, Gerald T. Mangine, Adam M. Gonzalez, and Maren S. Fragala. "L-alanyl-L-glutamine Ingestion Maintains Performance during a Competitive Basketball Game." Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 9.1 (2012): 4. Web.

    10. Hoffman, Jay R., Nicholas A. Ratamess, Jie Kang, Stephanie L. Rashti, Neil Kelly, Adam M. Gonzalez, Michael Stec, Steven Anderson, Brooke L. Bailey, Linda M. Yamamoto, Lindsay L. Hom, Brian R. Kupchak, Avery D. Faigenbaum, and Carl M. Maresh. "Examination of the Efficacy of Acute L-alanyl-L-glutamine Ingestion during Hydration Stress in Endurance Exercise." Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 7.1 (2010): 8. Web.

    11. Cruzat, Vinicius Fernandes, and Julio Tirapegui. "Effects of Oral Supplementation with Glutamine and Alanyl-glutamine on Glutamine, Glutamate, and Glutathione Status in Trained Rats and Subjected to Long-duration Exercise." Nutrition 25.4 (2009): 428-35. Web.
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