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    Odd question, but how often do you do heavy dips?

    I find myself liking and challenging myself with heavy dips. Last thursday i did bodyweight plus 115 for a set of 3, and thats after regular bench and incline.

    Is there much of a carry over from dips to bench?

    And do you heavy dip on the regular?
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    At my age NEVER! LOL. Hurts just thinking about them!!! But they are a good exercise, for the young LOL
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    dips r a great exercise for upper body strength,they r advocated by quite a few world class benchers like eric spoto,ct fletcher,josh bryant,pat casey etc.
    most ppl seem to do them once a week.

    ct fletcher would do them once a week after all his bench work for usually 3 sets of 10 adding as much weight as he could over time.
    eric spoto (according to his training example)would do them after bench and closegrip for varying reps going up to 225 for 10 reps or 180 for upwards of 15.
    pat casey would reportedly do them for hours on end (a whopping 8 hours) and had done them with 300 lbs around his waist weighing roughly 300.
    josh bryant attributes his win at the atlantis strongest man in america with an easy 445 push press to dips.
    jim wendler highly recommends them in his book 5/3/1.

    unfortunately not everyone finds them comfortable, usually guys with longer upper arms tend to get alot of strain in the shoulders when doing them.

    i personally do them for sets of 5 and ocassionally sets of 10.
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    Originally Posted by kinggorilla View Post
    dips r a great exercise for upper body strength,they r advocated by quite a few world class benchers like eric spoto,ct fletcher,josh bryant,pat casey etc.
    most ppl seem to do them once a week.

    ct fletcher would do them once a week after all his bench work for usually 3 sets of 10 adding as much weight as he could over time.
    eric spoto (according to his training example)would do them after bench and closegrip for varying reps going up to 225 for 10 reps or 180 for upwards of 15.
    pat casey would reportedly do them for hours on end (a whopping 8 hours) and had done them with 300 lbs around his waist weighing roughly 300.
    josh bryant attributes his win at the atlantis strongest man in america with an easy 445 push press to dips.
    jim wendler highly recommends them in his book 5/3/1.

    unfortunately not everyone finds them comfortable, usually guys with longer upper arms tend to get alot of strain in the shoulders when doing them.

    i personally do them for sets of 5 and ocassionally sets of 10.
    so it seems the verdict lies with 10 reps. do you know what reps wendler recommends?
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    he isnt too specific,but he says in his book 50 total reps weighted or 100 total reps if just using bodyweight.
    i dont know if the verdict is sets of 10 thats really a preference thing.
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    was doing 210+60lbs for 15 on chest days...now my shoulders are super ****ed so im done for now
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    I do 5x5, 5x6 or 5x8 nearly weekly on Sheiko (as prescribed)
    When i have two 5x8 to do in the same week, i trade dips for floor press,cg decline or cg bench with chains on the 2nd day.

    I go really heavy on them (nearly double bodyweight) and as low as humanly possible and i have yet to feel anything abnormal in my shoulders.
    IMO they are a great exercise for pecs (lower portion), front delts and triceps. They help ensure that my lockout is never a problem and makes me handle heavier weights (400+) than I do on bench.
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    even if it didnt help the bench press (though i believe it does) its still a great exercise to get good at.
    i concur with panzer with a 5x5 rep and set scheme to get used to adding more weight,one day if im doing +225 ill probably add more reps in.
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    I try every other week. I also love doing it, the bodybuilders look at you like you are satan though haha. Really does make you feel like a boss. My max is 4 reps with a 50kg..... Im guna try go heavier sometime just feels really dodgey going heavier, im sure i can lift it but scared i fail, its not like you can spot for it, so if your one arm gives in or your hand slips, its guna ruin your day... or month... and make you looks like a %&#$%@
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    never ever.
    dips hurt me, I try to never do accessories that actually make me injured.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    never ever.
    dips hurt me, I try to never do accessories that actually make me injured.
    This. I can't get a good dip session in because even high volume with nothing but body weight destroys my shoulders.
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    Ive done them in the past with like 200 lbs hanging from me, but I havent done them in a long time, and my bench is higher than its ever been.. I doubt ill ever to weighted dips again.
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    i used to have the problem w/dips destroying my shoulders, but strangely enough i started doing with my head up, and with out swinging my body coming down, my shoulders don't hurt anymore, and i go pretty deep, below 45 sometimes even though i try to avoid that, been doing it for 3 months like that, and haven't had a problem like i used to with shoulders.

    anyway at work i take exercise breaks, every hour or so i go to the gym which is 1 floor up from my job and i do a could of sets of pull ups dips and hyper extensions. 'Greasing the groove' per say, Monday thru Friday even on lifting day, but i stop 1-2 reps b4 i reach failure. and my pull ups went from 8 to 20 in about 4 months. Dips on the other hand i just started doing it, but i think it will work like i did with pull ups
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    Dips are rough on my shoulders and easily strainable pecs, so I do not do them.
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    I used to do them with lots of added weight but been doing cgb more recently , If I do dips now it will just be bw for a pump.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    never ever.
    dips hurt me, I try to never do accessories that actually make me injured.
    What accessory work do you do for triceps and shoulders?
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    Originally Posted by 24skiddidle View Post
    What accessory work do you do for triceps and shoulders?
    OHP, overhead rack lockouts, board work vs contrast, skullcrushers, rolling DB extensions, floor press with and without contrast, one arm grapplers, and swiss(football) bar neutral grip pressing.
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    Pretty much every week. Either for high reps or with varying chain weight for lower reps.

    They work well for me for bench strength and don't hurt. But like any exercise even the accessories in my program when I can't PR a variation I switch it out.
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    Oddly enough, if I find narrow enough dipping bars, dips are the only thing that dont trash my shoulders. They definitely feel a hell of a lot more natural than benching lol.
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    I do em on Friday after squatting and benching with a 45 or so. I don't really like em because they hit my pecs too much but they are a good tricep builder.
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    Originally Posted by isaku900 View Post
    OHP, overhead rack lockouts, board work vs contrast, skullcrushers, rolling DB extensions, floor press with and without contrast, one arm grapplers, and swiss(football) bar neutral grip pressing.
    I've always wondered, what's the main difference between rolling DB extensions and simple DB extensions?

    I know they are 2 different movements, but what's the benefit of the rolling extensions?

    I see powerlifters do them all the time
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    Originally Posted by allergic2rice View Post
    I've always wondered, what's the main difference between rolling DB extensions and simple DB extensions?

    I know they are 2 different movements, but what's the benefit of the rolling extensions?

    I see powerlifters do them all the time
    rolling extensions are easier on the elbows than regular extensions.
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    rolling extensions are easier on the elbows than regular extensions.
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