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Thread: Are you religious?
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02-10-2012, 10:23 PM #31
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02-10-2012, 10:40 PM #32
1)Religious
2)Science is important most people think Religion=anti-science but it's not true well at least my beliefs
3)Believe evolution to a point, doesn't concern me but I don't believe Evolution ever occurred in Humans. Whether it occured in Animals or not religion doesn't care.
4)Creationist yes.It is impossible to lay hands on that which is not predestined for us, and that which is predestined for us will reach us wherever we are.
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02-10-2012, 10:57 PM #33
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02-10-2012, 11:05 PM #34
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02-10-2012, 11:21 PM #35
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02-11-2012, 04:01 AM #36
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02-11-2012, 04:20 AM #37
Not religious. No evidence=no care.
believe in good science (well supported by evidence & peer reviews) and evolution ofc.I just want to conquer people and their souls.
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02-11-2012, 04:36 AM #38
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02-11-2012, 04:40 AM #39
I don't believe in God.I'm a fundamentalist atheist I would say.I beleive that you can rhetorize everything you have passion for.
I believe that the world does not need religion and its oftentimes makes it worse,but it can oftentimes better it.Its a double edged sword.
For the creationists above:science has proven human evolution from apes,dogs mice ect...Its all one beautiful hierarchy of evolution.I will ask this ,how old do you think the earth is?
Peace out
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02-11-2012, 04:42 AM #40
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02-11-2012, 04:47 AM #41
read my post.You just proved that if you have passion for something,i.e religion you can rhetorize your beliefs to justify your faith, just as I can rhetorize my atheism to say that I don't beleive in a God because of X or Y reason.
Your post is ignorant and immature man.Your religion teaches respect which is something I agree with.You have missed that point.
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02-11-2012, 07:02 AM #42
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02-11-2012, 07:14 AM #43
what a gross concept. human ARE animals. how small-minded does one have to be to not realize that? and if you accept the theory of evolution, then you accept that humans evolved...there is no picking and choosing(though religious people tend to like to do that).
because if you actually accept evolution, then you accept that we all share single-celled ancestry; you accept the daunting DNA/fossil evidence of evolution. you can't just choose to ignore the human evidence and decide that humans were just placed here randomly(wtf?) and were completely absolved from the selection process or from the things that govern/explain all other life.
and that way of thinking is complete and utter arrogance as well- to think that you are something special and separate from the flora and fauna of the earth, separate from the building blocks of the universe, when in fact *breaks out into song*
we are stardust
we are golden
we are billion-year old carbon
and we've got to get ourselves back to the gaaaa-aaaarrrden
in other news, i like that song.
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02-11-2012, 07:21 AM #44
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02-11-2012, 08:51 AM #45
Yes I am. I believe in the great invisible flying spaghetti monster (FSM).
Have you been touched by his noodly appendage?
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02-11-2012, 08:54 AM #46I just want to conquer people and their souls.
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02-11-2012, 08:55 AM #47
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02-11-2012, 09:07 AM #48
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02-11-2012, 09:26 AM #49
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02-11-2012, 10:33 AM #50
It seems people are just going to insult...i guess a thread about Religion never lasts long because of this....
Il just leave this here...From ask about islam thread
As for evolution, you should read these and really ask yourself what the physical evidence is for human evolution (Islam doesn't care whether all animals are a result of historical evolution).
The most important question to ask is: Where is the historical evidence that genetic changes led to current human genome? Do we have the genetic data of the species over the past 1 billion years to track that?
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=30It is impossible to lay hands on that which is not predestined for us, and that which is predestined for us will reach us wherever we are.
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02-11-2012, 11:27 AM #51
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02-11-2012, 11:54 AM #52
The quote you posted had and invalid argument. It questions the fact of the historical evidence of some species.
We have only started recording data not too long ago. The library of Alexandria was burned down/destroyed. It contained a wealth of information that have been lost.
Ask yourself, what is the right religion?
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02-11-2012, 12:01 PM #53
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The religion that people feel comfortable with. Or, a specific person feels comfortable with. If one feels like he is comfortable following Christianity, they can, they just must do research and not become a crazy whack job like the followers of the Westboro Baptist Church. If one decides to be Muslim, they must do their research and not follow the teachings of Al Qaeda. If one decides to be Atheist, (although it is not a religion), they must do their research and not become a lunatic who hates anyone who follows a certain religion.
Point being, people can believe in what they want, just don't take it to the extreme."God will not have his work made manifest through cowards"
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02-11-2012, 12:01 PM #54I just want to conquer people and their souls.
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02-11-2012, 12:07 PM #55
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02-11-2012, 12:09 PM #56
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02-11-2012, 12:19 PM #57
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02-11-2012, 01:34 PM #58
you are asking for evidence that cannot possibly be accrued. there is no possible way to analyze the genome of every intermediate species that led to humankind..there is no way to recreate all environmental factors and resulting selection responses spanning billions of years that led to our current position.
what we can do is genomic analysis of current species and notice how much is conserved/degenerate across the species; we can look at gene expression and notice clear patterns, analogs, shared shared mechanisms across species. we can combine this with fossil evidence( a rarity- fossils are not common) and propose a possible mechanism. we can use our understanding of genetics- experimental and theoretical- and test the validity of such a proposal and find that it stands up to everything we know about life. and we can do this to the point of every educated person considering evolution to be an incontrovertible fact.
so there is evolution: you accept it for "animals", yes? how do you justify not accepting it for humans when the evidence is exactly the same for everything on this earth? you cannot possibly have an actual, logical reason. what has happened is that your religion failed to explain a fundamental property of life, so much so that the evidence became so daunting as for you to make an allotment for it in your belief system. yet you still want to hold on to your silly ideas of god creating man, so you decide to just believe it to be so while refuting/altering scientific fact without any possible reason or justification...which is utter nonsense. either evolution occurs, or it doesn't. humans are made of the exact same stuff and operate the exact same way as every other "animal".
another case of the fact that: "god is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance". his grip on the world is slowly waning as science figures out more and more.
edit- also i would just like to note how a good scientific theory is only strengthened by furthering our knowledge(eg darwin's theory being proposed before knowledge of genetics/heredity...yet these later discoveries strengthened the fuk out of it). while religious doctrine is always in a transient state, waiting for the next bit of information to make it completely dated and useless. the more we know, the less religion is needed...that is just a fact, a fact that should be looked at.Last edited by BandApart; 02-11-2012 at 01:43 PM.
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02-11-2012, 02:58 PM #59
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Really, seriousely, come on... At the end of the day who really gives a ****!
As two great men once said:
"At the end of the day you can believe whatever the **** you wanna believe"
So don't get all BUTT HURT and lets end this thread like mature people before it starts becoming insulting to others.
I am not religeous, I have been before but am no longer religeous and that is my decision; everyone is entitled to their own decision.
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02-11-2012, 03:02 PM #60
A very relevant/smart point and one I've thought about before.
Doctrine is not expanding at any meaningful rate (fortunately), scientific knowledge is. What used to fall under the realm of religion and 'miracles' is now firmly explained by valid scientific theory. I hope to be around when it reaches a point, so to speak, but I doubt I will and I doubt it ever truly will anyway.
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I really don't think anyone can take you seriously.
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