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    Lose love handles while bulking

    Is it possible to lose love handles and lower stomach "flab" while still eating a lot and mainly focusing on adding mass? The reason I ask is that I began seriously weight training last August, and decided to start with cutting the little fat I did have. I got kind of cut but still have very noticeable love handles and flab. So is there any way of losing fat while bulking up still and eating a lot of calories?
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    Originally Posted by PaulJ54 View Post
    Is it possible to lose love handles and lower stomach "flab" while still eating a lot and mainly focusing on adding mass?
    Nope.
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    Originally Posted by PaulJ54 View Post
    Is it possible to lose love handles and lower stomach "flab" while still eating a lot and mainly focusing on adding mass? The reason I ask is that I began seriously weight training last August, and decided to start with cutting the little fat I did have. I got kind of cut but still have very noticeable love handles and flab. So is there any way of losing fat while bulking up still and eating a lot of calories?
    It is possible. But you would have to start ridding a "bicycle". lol....But if you are NATURALLY walking you can only Cut/bulk.
    R.i.p Aziz "Zyzz" Shreddedshian. Another reason why i gota keep lifting, no matter how discouraged i get sometimes.

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    I really hate these. Dude, I used to have the exact same problem. Its unsightly and embarassing. To make it even worse, I had relatively large nipples for a guy so taking off my shirt just made everyone look with a stupid face.

    Anyway, those days are behind me. Basically I lost much of the access weight I had and mu moobs and nipples shrank. I think it had something to do with the body fat causing estrogen or something like that. Here's what you do:

    - Cut out all sugars and simple carbohydrates;
    - Drink 8 glasses of water per day;
    - Sleep a solid 8 hours a day;
    - Hit the gym and ask your trainer to get a resistance training package done for weight loss.

    Hope this helps.
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    Originally Posted by marcusdantes View Post
    I really hate these. Dude, I used to have the exact same problem. Its unsightly and embarassing. To make it even worse, I had relatively large nipples for a guy so taking off my shirt just made everyone look with a stupid face.

    Anyway, those days are behind me. Basically I lost much of the access weight I had and mu moobs and nipples shrank. I think it had something to do with the body fat causing estrogen or something like that. Here's what you do:

    - Cut out all sugars and simple carbohydrates;
    - Drink 8 glasses of water per day;
    - Sleep a solid 8 hours a day;
    - Hit the gym and ask your trainer to get a resistance training package done for weight loss.


    Hope this helps.
    Strong first post.
    1) It is hard to cut during ketosis.
    2) Obviously drink a lot, but 8 glasses is too relative.
    3) Good.
    4) Personal trainers are often retarded.
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    The only thing I can think of (im in the same baot with love handles but im cutting) Is to get in the majority of your carbs before 6p.m. Lower your fat intake and up yoru protein intake a little.
    It might also help to eat more often to rev up your metabolism like I eat every 3 hours but yu could eat ever 2.
    While bulking do slow cardio (walking to a brisk walk) on a treadmill with an incline.
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    the broscience is strong in this thread
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    Originally Posted by 813919 View Post
    the broscience is strong in this thread
    Please clarify all knowing 813919??
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    Please clarify all knowing 813919??
    eating carbs before or after 6pm makes no difference

    there is no need to eat every three hours to "rev up the metabolism"

    cutting out simple sugars does nothing for body composition, its calories in vs calories out
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    Originally Posted by 813919 View Post
    eating carbs before or after 6pm makes no difference

    there is no need to eat every three hours to "rev up the metabolism"

    cutting out simple sugars does nothing for body composition, its calories in vs calories out
    I bet you think IIFYM is a good way to eat too huh???? No biggie its ok that you go with the flow. I dont recommend ANYTHING that I havent seen results with so maybe before you come into a thread trying to discredit everyone YOU GET YORU **** STRAIGHT!!!
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    I bet you think IIFYM is a good way to eat too huh???? No biggie its ok that you go with the flow. I dont recommend ANYTHING that I havent seen results with so maybe before you come into a thread trying to discredit everyone YOU GET YORU **** STRAIGHT!!!
    whoa man lol calm down...and I do think IIFYM is good - in moderation. The majority of your diet should come from whole, unprocessed, nutrient dense foods; for health purposes if nothing else. However, fitting in various treats here and there that fit your macros and that you enjoy is completely fine and does nothing for body composition. There have actually been studies where people eat a diet of ONLY junk / fast food like twinkies and mcdonalds yet still lose weight because at the end of the day its always: calories in vs. calories out. So sir, please, get YOUR **** straight
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    I bet you think IIFYM is a good way to eat too huh???? No biggie its ok that you go with the flow. I dont recommend ANYTHING that I havent seen results with so maybe before you come into a thread trying to discredit everyone YOU GET YORU **** STRAIGHT!!!
    You're a dumbass. Go read books.
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    Im right untill someone discredits me. Im tired of all the people on here reading some **** from someone who has more reps than them or reading something a pro says or that was written in a magazine or on a forum or the latest craze in the diet world and thinking that thats the only way to do it. Yes it is possible to lose fat while bulking, It takes longer but if someone is willing to go through the trouble to do then by all ****ing means let them.
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    Originally Posted by 813919 View Post
    eating carbs before or after 6pm makes no difference
    Truth.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21475137
    Originally Posted by 813919 View Post
    there is no need to eat every three hours to "rev up the metabolism"
    Truth.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8...ubmed_RVDocSum
    Originally Posted by 813919 View Post
    cutting out simple sugars does nothing for body composition, its calories in vs calories out
    Truth.
    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa0804748

    I just discredited you. Now go eat a dick.
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    Im right untill someone discredits me. Im tired of all the people on here reading some **** from someone who has more reps than them or reading something a pro says or that was written in a magazine or on a forum or the latest craze in the diet world and thinking that thats the only way to do it. Yes it is possible to lose fat while bulking, It takes longer but if someone is willing to go through the trouble to do then by all ****ing means let them.
    You, are wrong. Bulking implies a caloric surplus. Caloric surplus equals weight gain. You cannot ONLY gain muscle, some fat gain is inevitable.
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    Originally Posted by thicksolidtight View Post
    The only one of those that hold any (ANY) relevance to this is the metabolism one. The first was done on a low calorie diet (which OP is not). The third one is done with fat asses. YOu wanna know why I dont listen to ANY study done with overweight people?? because there body comp. is different than ours. There hormones are dif. from ours. the list goes on but its cold and its getting hard to type.

    So sorry OP eat WHENEVER you want.
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    The only one of those that hold any (ANY) relevance to this is the metabolism one. The first was done on a low calorie diet (which OP is not). The third one is done with fat asses. YOu wanna know why I dont listen to ANY study done with overweight people?? because there body comp. is different than ours. There hormones are dif. from ours. the list goes on but its cold and its getting hard to type.

    So sorry OP eat WHENEVER you want.
    So any study where the participants are not exactly like you in every way shape and form holds no merit to you whatsoever.

    Brilliant insight bro.

    Oh wait, you're still being a dip**** who doesn't understand how science works. I'm not sure how you can take a study saying that late night carb feeding promotes leanness and say that it doesn't disprove the idea that late night carb feeding promotes fatness.
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    Originally Posted by thicksolidtight View Post
    So any study where the participants are not exactly like you in every way shape and form holds no merit to you whatsoever.

    Brilliant insight bro.

    Oh wait, you're still being a dip**** who doesn't understand how science works. I'm not sure how you can take a study saying that late night carb feeding promotes leanness and say that it doesn't disprove the idea that late night carb feeding promotes fatness.
    All im saying is that studies are done everyday but those same studies have SO many variables that it becomes useless. Thank you for presenting studies but I've already read them.
    Im speaking from personal experience. I disagree with you but Im gona baby rep you cause you posted studies.
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    All im saying is that studies are done everyday but those same studies have SO many variables that it becomes useless.
    No. Learn to understand physiology. Learn to understand what these studies are saying about physiology. They don't become worthless just because there are variables.
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    Originally Posted by thicksolidtight View Post
    No. Learn to understand physiology. Learn to understand what these studies are saying about physiology. They don't become worthless just because there are variables.
    No variables are fine. What im saying is 95% of studies done take it too the extreme. Do you realize how many of those studies are disproved after a month?? I dont quote them anymore is what im saying. If I've tried something and it worked then it will work for other people. Not everyone, but someone it will work for.
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    While bulking do slow cardio (walking to a brisk walk) on a treadmill with an incline.
    It's funny you mention that, because today I did exactly that for the first time before my workout. Also I do tend to eat 6 meals a day with a range of 2-4 (mostly 2 hours) in between each meal. How long would you recommend to walk on the treadmill for?
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    Originally Posted by PaulJ54 View Post
    It's funny you mention that, because today I did exactly that for the first time before my workout. Also I do tend to eat 6 meals a day with a range of 2-4 (mostly 2 hours) in between each meal. How long would you recommend to walk on the treadmill for?
    I would say 30 mins a day. pretty high incline though.
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    Originally Posted by JAMES140haha View Post
    No variables are fine. What im saying is 95% of studies done take it too the extreme. Do you realize how many of those studies are disproved after a month?? I dont quote them anymore is what im saying. If I've tried something and it worked then it will work for other people. Not everyone, but someone it will work for.
    please show me the study where you eliminated all other variables to prove that any success you did see was in fact the result of cutting out nighttime carbs and eating every couple hours.
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    Originally Posted by 813919 View Post
    please show me the study where you eliminated all other variables to prove that any success you did see was in fact the result of cutting out nighttime carbs and eating every couple hours.
    smartass. Im off this thread though I have movie night with the fiance so I gota shower up. OP If yoru not seeing results then why not try what im saying?? right?? Its better to try that than just sit there and get fatter.
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    Originally Posted by 813919 View Post
    please show me the study where you eliminated all other variables to prove that any success you did see was in fact the result of cutting out nighttime carbs and eating every couple hours.
    please show me the study where you are 6'4'' and 165 pound...gtfo
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    Originally Posted by Datderrguy View Post
    please show me the study where you are 6'4'' and 165 pound...gtfo
    Aye im a skinny ****er, but im not sure who you are or why that matters lol. I was just clearing up misinformation, which has nothing to do with size or weight lol..
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