Let's talk about ROWS

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The T-bar row at my gym doesn't have the chest pad, which is why I said it's only slightly easier on my lower back.

Also for clarification I do deads on leg day, not on back day. Squats Tuesday, back Wednesday, and deads on Friday.

I am another one that finds it difficult to keep good form on dumbbell rows and actually use the back muscles instead of just heaving weight around. I find the Hammer Strength Iso row to pretty much the same movement, no?

[pharmamarketer]

The T-bar row at my gym doesn't have the chest pad, which is why I said it's only slightly easier on my lower back.

Also for clarification I do deads on leg day, not on back day. Squats Tuesday, back Wednesday, and deads on Friday.

I am another one that finds it difficult to keep good form on dumbbell rows and actually use the back muscles instead of just heaving weight around. I find the Hammer Strength Iso row to pretty much the same movement, no?

I loved the Hammer Strength ISO row. My new gym doesn't have it but they allow chalk . I would agree with you that the ISO row is pretty much the same movement as the DB rows.

[Tyrbolift]

T-Bar (with pad support)

HS Machine

Lying DB rows

no cable rows at all

[BigMech]

I swapped in bent over barbell rows into my routine about a month ago. I like them, but it is really easy to go too heavy and cheat on them. You really have to concentrate, and put your ego aside to get good form.

I also use the hammer strength ISO row machine in my workout.

In the past I've done the narrow and wide grip cable rows, and one arm dumbbell rows.

I rotate between these 5, swapping them in and out every few months when I stop making progress on one.

[jdtemple]

Did a little reading about Pendlay Rows. I think I'm going to give those a shot.

[taf1968]

My latest back routine has been working pretty well, so I'm going to stick with it awhile and see where it goes.

- Weighted pull-ups
- T-Bar row
- Hammer Strength Iso Lateral Row (I do them single-arm . . . sitting sideways on the seat "so it's kind of like a "Carlman" but on the machine instead of a cable)
- Then either straight-arm pulldown with the rope attachment or DB pullovers depending on what I feel like doing as the finisher.

I think the weighted pull-ups and the T-bar rows have been a great combination . . . only been doing that a couple weeks, so it's early but it feels like it's a good setup for me).

[ezra76]

Bent over rows. I make sure my rows are keeping up with my bench. I'm a believer that if you can't row at least your bench, you are lagging with the back. After all, lats are bigger than pecs so you should row more, no?

I also do deadlifts and pullups for back. I used to do 1arm rows or "lawnmowers" as we called them but the DB's only go to 100's at my gym.

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I used to do 1arm rows or "lawnmowers" as we called them but the DB's only go to 100's at my gym.

That is too funny! When I first started training nearly 25 years ago we called them "lawnmowers" or "lawnmower pulls". LMAO.

And of course pec cable flyes were called "Hulk Hogans"

[ironwill2008]

So what's everyone else doing?

On my previous bodybuilding split, I Deadlifted every other week, and used mostly Old School-style T-Bar rows on the weeks alternating with Deads.

Deadlifts toasted my pc to the point where I didn't even attempt to do anything else on that day that loaded my lower back, so I used Dumbbell Rows, which allowed me to use my non-working arm to support my back.






On my current routine (not a split, but a quasi-FB routine), I use Barbell Rows on a separate day from Deadlifts. So far, so good.

I am another one that finds it difficult to keep good form on dumbbell rows and actually use the back muscles instead of just heaving weight around. I find the Hammer Strength Iso row to pretty much the same movement, no?

Yep, basically the same motion.

And it's smart training to use the exercise that the trainee feels most in the target muscle. Just using a particular exercise because it's "hardcore" or "free weight," or has some amount of popularity, but which the trainee can't really feel working, just isn't an efficient way to train.

[jtroster]

I like doing two point one arm rows. That is where you stand on two feet instead of putting one knee on a bench. Another variation is to do them in a lunge position which is easier on the lower back.

[Retoaded]

I like pendlay rows...but let me throw this out there: based on "feel" that facepulls from a horizontal angle, pinching your shoulder blades, will burn your back up like a mug!

[Donkeyno9]

Every workout I row or deadlift. I go pretty heavy because I want to stress the posterior chain and get some carry over into my deadlift.

[BloodySalad]

Bentover dumbell rows. I do them every workout.
I keep toying with the idea of moving over to barbell rows but I just seem to get more out of the dumbells. In the future, I'll probably swap between the two but for now, the dbs seem to be doing the job.

[Phattso]

It's not a Back day without some kind of Row. I do them all, except the padded thing. But, not all at the same time. I periodize each. Sure, some I like better than others, but comfort isn't my intent. Changing up when it is time, is my intent for growth.

[MrBertwest]

l do up right rows as apart of my shoulder workout.l will be adding bentover rows soon just added deads to my workout aswell.keep rowing!

[Skidmarx]

For mid back, BB rows have always been tops for me. I mix in 1arm db rows, tbar rows, and close cable rows every now and then just for variety.

The challenge with BB rows is keeping your balance as you get stronger. I'm doing 85% of my body weight and the motion from the bar tries to tilt me forward. I'm sure you stonger dudes know what I'm talking about. I thought about mounting a bench pad to the wall and doing rows in front of that, with my head just touching the pad, to keep me from tilting.

[kd7nfr]

I like taking a wide grip on the overhead cable machine and laying down on a flat bench and pulling it to my chest. Obviously you can't do as much weight this way, but if you concentrate on the contraction and negative you get the same effect and a decent ab workout. Also saves your lower back for some deads or mornings.

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I like taking a wide grip on the overhead cable machine and laying down on a flat bench and pulling it to my chest. Obviously you can't do as much weight this way, but if you concentrate on the contraction and negative you get the same effect and a decent ab workout. Also saves your lower back for some deads or mornings.

Interesting...

Doesn't the weight stack hit at the top? I guess not.

I might try this at home. SRS.

[bbsitum]

I tried dumbbell rows with 25% smaller weight as someone at this tread recommended. I use Schiek dowel straps too. Definitely work for me as I can fill lats and lower back muscle. I definitely fill pain in lats one day latter. Way to go.

[CaptChip40]

I've been doing one arm dumb bells rows using an incline bench. Instead of resting the balancing hand on a flat bench I place it on the incline portion. Getting some serious DOM's, which tells me they are working.

[pvsampson]

Bent over rows are extremely stressful on my lower back,(surgery for blown disc),and I have had to replace them with one arm dumbell rows.I have an elbow injury as well and I have found that the dumbells are a lot easier to use for rom.

[llahhsoj]

Whoooaaa buddy! I do a ton of various different row excercise. I got a bunch from the youtube channel TestosteroneNation.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Testoste...view=u&page=11

They are spread out from page 11 and on.

[MontyMagpie]

I do reverse grip BB rows, T-Bar rows with bar, bent over machine cable pulley rows, deadlifts, Lat pull downs, chins ups all on back day I give them a week to recover.

[OutOfStep]

I do reverse grip BB rows, T-Bar rows with bar, bent over machine cable pulley rows, deadlifts, Lat pull downs, chins ups all on back day I give them a week to recover.

[Corbi]

I do reverse grip BB rows, T-Bar rows with bar, bent over machine cable pulley rows, deadlifts, Lat pull downs, chins ups all on back day I give them a week to recover.

And we can all see the massive improvement in your development.........................oh wait, never mind.

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T-Bar rows with bar

As opposed to.......T-Bar rows without a bar????

[MontyMagpie]

As opposed to.......T-Bar rows without a bar????

Yes there are T-bar machines. I use a bar.

[bbsitum]

I've been doing one arm dumb bells rows using an incline bench. Instead of resting the balancing hand on a flat bench I place it on the incline portion. Getting some serious DOM's, which tells me they are working.

I will try that too and I will try inverse rows (big expectations). I give each exercise one chance.

Bent over rows are extremely stressful on my lower back,(surgery for blown disc),and I have had to replace them with one arm dumbell rows.I have an elbow injury as well and I have found that the dumbells are a lot easier to use for rom.

What I do. I tray say bb rows and if I fill my lower back don’t like it (as happened) I Google like “barbell rows bad for lower back”. Thousands opinions about topic from Mayo clinic to pro body builders. I do same for each exercise that I tray.

And we can all see the massive improvement in your development.........................oh wait, never mind.

Monty is highly intellectual. He is philosopher. So if he say that he is huge but don’t want post picture I’m sure he have highly intellectual reasons.

[pvsampson]

i do reverse grip bb rows, t-bar rows with bar, bent over machine cable pulley rows, deadlifts, lat pull downs, chins ups all on back day i give them a week to recover.

pics!!!!!

[MontyMagpie]

So if he say that he is huge but don’t want post picture I’m sure he have highly intellectual reasons.

I made no claim to being huge.