Was just curious about what people think about it. I have been waiting for it to come out since the discontinue of plasmajet which when i heard it wasnt being distributed anymore i bought the last 3 packages to last me till a bit ago. Just waiting for a little more money seeing as how im a broke college kid to pick up my first bottle. I have high hopes and dont wanna be let down at all, but from what little I have heard it wont disappoint.
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Thread: Vasotropin?
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01-31-2012, 09:47 PM #1
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Vasotropin?
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02-01-2012, 01:15 AM #2
I personally really enjoy Vasotropin, and I doubt you would be let down, here is a review i did of Vasotropin - http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...61&pagenumber= .
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I just started it 2 days ago. But you can check out my log in my sig. So far so good! WIll be updating it again a little later today
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Here is a pretty detailed review/log: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=140462133
Also, we did a giveaway for people to run logs, and the links can be found starting here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1236021&page=8
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02-01-2012, 07:28 AM #7
What does that have to do with the topic at hand? Yes, they are both classified as "pre workouts", however Vaso is a pump and non stim type product. There are many people out there who do not want to take stims.
OP, if you liked PJ, you will love Vaso. Just be sure to read the directions as they are different from PJ. Thank you."I'm special, you're special. We are all just a bunch of special fcukers!" - Stifler
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02-02-2012, 05:19 AM #11
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I think that sometimes people are too harsh with their criticisms of new product formulas. There is pretty substantial market saturation and much research and work has been done on existing compounds, so some overly critical consumers expect every new product to be some "groundbreaking" discovery.
New products may sometimes be a combination of known ingredients in a way or at dosing ratios that have not been tried before and the synergies may prove to be more effective than previously thought.
At the end of the day if the product is effective and priced reasonably, does it really matter if the ingredient profile doesn't "impress you"?
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02-02-2012, 06:42 AM #12
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The calcium is bonded to lactate. You do understand the role of calcium and lactate in nitric oxide production right? Also, why are pimping one product with glycerol while slamming another one for having it? Ours actually has more elemental glycerol. The profile has three new ingredients and not the same recycled crap you see in everyone elses' products. The profile is great as is the feedback.
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02-02-2012, 09:15 AM #13
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02-02-2012, 09:29 AM #14
Vaso definitely seems like a try it before judging product. Unlike SPMax, which to me was a more obvious well done formula and I ended up really liking it... if that makes sense. I will have to purchase it eventually and see how I find it, as well as reading others judgements, only after they have used it for a bit.
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02-02-2012, 02:25 PM #20
Can you tell us a little more about the NOSPEP? The patents you're refering to don't tell anything about the peptide fraction. Another reference you make to a lactate study uses 120 mg/kg. That's nowhere near the dose you guys use in Vasotropin so I don't understand why you reference it in the first place.
Also your pterostilbene patent claims that 30 mg causes profound hypoglycemia and higher doses might possible be fatal. I believe that's very odd because several companies sell pterostilbene supplements that contain >200mg and I've never seen reports of hypoglycemia. There is also a clinical trial running ATM that uses 125mg twice daily. Can you explain us the discrepancies?
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02-02-2012, 02:31 PM #21
I love those antioxidants...they provide such a pump in the gym...when you take them w/food or rather a carb meal it all makes sense - yes, i will get a bigger pump b/c i just ate some carbs which converted into muscle glycogen so now my muscle cells are fuller and so is my stomach so now i am more focused...slam down some SPMAX w/caffeine and oxytropis and now i am more focused so it feels like my muscles are more pumped up
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02-02-2012, 04:33 PM #25
you could just spike insulin with carbs...preferably sugars...how long does pterostilbene stay in your system anyway? I think most insulinogenics don't last very long in the body meaning they should be taken with simple sugars...don't know why it's advised to eat a meal to capture all of it or just some of it? I guess if you are having that meal so close to working out then those carbs are present throughout your workout...so does the product really work that well or is it the meal and carbs in the meal that are benefiting the person working out? Major question in my book....
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02-02-2012, 04:35 PM #26
Also, to go along with this post below - what's 123mgs of a peptide anyway? Also, which peptide is it? What amino acids? What are we talking here...that's like breathing in fresh air... I probably get more peptides opening my jug of protein....didn't some company state that about their supplement...opening the container releases some kind of Vapor? Maybe I should rub some of that vapor on my balls....might stimulate test producting
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02-05-2012, 09:13 AM #29
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Hey guys, just picked up my first bottle of Vasotrpin. Was wondering what a good pre workout meal would be because I usually dont eat a meal before I lift, maybe an hour or two before but i usually go on an empty stomach and take a preworkout stim. Gettin off the stims, so I just wanna know what and when for a pre workout meal
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