I want Size over Strength

[Volcompat]

Main reason i wanted to workout was to get a big upper body and be lean with low bf%. Obviously need to EAT. SLEEP. LIFT. I keep seeing threads about people doing SS like me and aren't gaining mass. I just want a big upper body with 1 day of legs.


I don't wanna be a body builder, i just want to gain weight and size. Is SS really gonna give me a big upper body or like i want.

[fielsgudman]

no, SS is garbage.
get on a split, you'll see the results you are looking for.

[superpal08]

Heres your split

Chest, Triceps, Abs
• Bench Press 3 sets 4-6 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Incline Press 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Push ups 2 sets failure
• Close-Grip Press 3 sets 8 reps
• Dips 2 sets failure
• Crunches 5 sets 25 reps
Back, Biceps, Forearms
• Pull ups 2 sets failure
• Deadlift 3 sets 4 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Barbell Rows 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Lat Pull downs 3 sets 8 reps
• Barbell Curls 3 sets 8
• Dumbbell Incline Curls 3 sets 8 reps
• Wrist Curls 2 sets failure
• Reverse Wrist Curls 2 sets failure
Legs, Deltoids
• Squats 3 sets 4-6 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Lunges 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Leg Curls 3 sets 8 reps
• Barbell Shoulder Press 3 sets 4-6 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Dumbbell Shoulder Press 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Side Laterals 3 sets 8 reps
• Calf Raises 4 sets failure

[ShreddedOatz]

thats like having a woman and being foreveralone

[Volcompat]

thats like having a woman and being foreveralone

that's like posting something stupid and helping not a single bit.

[Coolcicada]

Heres your split

Chest, Triceps, Abs
• Bench Press 3 sets 4-6 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Incline Press 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Push ups 2 sets failure
• Close-Grip Press 3 sets 8 reps
• Dips 2 sets failure
• Crunches 5 sets 25 reps
Back, Biceps, Forearms
• Pull ups 2 sets failure
• Deadlift 3 sets 4 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Barbell Rows 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Lat Pull downs 3 sets 8 reps
• Barbell Curls 3 sets 8
• Dumbbell Incline Curls 3 sets 8 reps
• Wrist Curls 2 sets failure
• Reverse Wrist Curls 2 sets failure
Legs, Deltoids
• Squats 3 sets 4-6 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Lunges 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Leg Curls 3 sets 8 reps
• Barbell Shoulder Press 3 sets 4-6 reps (2-3 warm-up sets 12 reps)
• Dumbbell Shoulder Press 3 sets 4-6 reps
• Side Laterals 3 sets 8 reps
• Calf Raises 4 sets failure

I like this very much..

If you have energy...I would add : "Tricep Rope Pulldowns and/or Skullcrushers" to Triceps. I would add "Hammer Curls and Corkscrews" to BB. And..."Front Lateral Raises and Rotator Cuff Exercise" to Legs/Delts.

Very nice!

[SilverBackk]

no, SS is garbage.
get on a split, you'll see the results you are looking for.

Imagine the results he would get if he moved onto a split after he had crazy strength behind him?

OP if you do SS it will pay off in the long run, you will gain mass on it no doubt. Don't neglect legs either

[Volcompat]

Imagine the results he would get if he moved onto a split after he had crazy strength behind him?

OP if you do SS it will pay off in the long run, you will gain mass on it no doubt. Don't neglect legs either

I'm trying to gain size ASAP. I think on a split i will gain a lot more and have good gains... I have to make the decision at some point. I'm really wanting to see results for SS but if i work out my chest/tris in one day with multiple exercises that hit it, woouldn't it give the muscles more ways to grow by different tears? idk if that makes sense. i'm kinda high.

[Shkimabobs]

Imagine the results he would get if he moved onto a split after he had crazy strength behind him?

OP if you do SS it will pay off in the long run, you will gain mass on it no doubt. Don't neglect legs either

Just do it. You'll regret the day you didn't do it.

[Volcompat]

Just do it. You'll regret the day you didn't do it.

Are you currently doing it?

[akatric]

I didnt do SS when I started, but it took me a while to finally figure out a split that worked. The 3 day split above is pretty good. You could also turn that into a 4 day split if you wanted and separate shoulders/traps and legs. I've been doing the 3 and 4 day split for a while and have been seeing steady gains

[Volcompat]

I didnt do SS when I started, but it took me a while to finally figure out a split that worked. The 3 day split above is pretty good. You could also turn that into a 4 day split if you wanted and separate shoulders/traps and legs. I've been doing the 3 and 4 day split for a while and have been seeing steady gains

Nice. What would a 4th day look like.

[bravo96]

Imagine the results he would get if he moved onto a split after he had crazy strength behind him?

OP if you do SS it will pay off in the long run, you will gain mass on it no doubt. Don't neglect legs either

its not like you cant get crazy strong on a split either.

[Shkimabobs]

Are you currently doing it?

Yes, and i regret the day I didn't start it.
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[akatric]

Nice. What would a 4th day look like.

My 4th day is legs (and sometimes abs if I feel like doing them). Mainly serves as a rest day for upper body. I mainly do this because if I put legs in with shoulders/traps I'd be at the gym for too long. I will eventually combine them though because theres some good compound leg/shoulder exercises.

SS is a good option though if you're just starting. I didnt do it so I wouldnt know personally but its worth considering. No one is the same so what might work for one person might not work as well for another.

[Volcompat]

Yes, and i regret the day I didn't start it.
[img]http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/do%20it%20****ot/grand/do_it_gif.gif[/img]

haha okay okay. what are your current lifts if i may ask?

[doyoueveneat]

if you want size over strength then go take roids and dont lift. That way your muscles will grow but your neural adaptation will be pretty $hit.

boom size over strength.
If you want to lift weights then with strength comes size.

[superpal08]

Man save yourself the trouble and DO SS. Will you look like arnold? No... The fact of the matter is you CANT fail on SS if you eat and sleep, its that simple, and its supposed to be, its the best place to start. You can even go on SSfourms and talk to ripptoe and find more about it even though all u need is on this forum in the sticky. Now what u would want is babylovers SS, and i personally love it over the normal SS program. Dont worry about gaining fat during this, because when your done just cut and you will be glad you did SS, years down the road if you dont do SS or a very similar routine, youd wish you had by similar I mean full body workouts, you want to use your newbie gains to the best you can for optimal progress.

[NZninja101]

3 words OP. Babylover's Starting Strength. Addresses physique imbalances from SS whilst still providing quick linear progression in all the main lifts.

[superpal08]

3 words OP. Babylover's Starting Strength. Addresses physique imbalances from SS whilst still providing quick linear progression in all the main lifts.

Baby lover is 2 words :P

[NZninja101]

Baby lover is 2 words :P

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...5564721&page=1

Check again.

[Volcompat]

Thank you all... I'm going to start Babylovers. Should i wait till a couple more weeks before dips/chins/pull ups? I suck at them.

[Shkimabobs]

haha okay okay. what are your current lifts if i may ask?

155x5 Bench
255x5 ATG squat
295x5 Deadlift

[540dude]

Thank you all... I'm going to start Babylovers. Should i wait till a couple more weeks before dips/chins/pull ups? I suck at them.

Good idea... Don't wait to start them. You will see progression quicker! And honestly they get a lot easier after the first week.

[MrB1g]

Holy hell.

The problem isn't the program, the problem is that for the last 6 months you've made threads about what you should do and what your goal is and achieved nothing.


Seriously, STFU and stick to a program.

[Rowbro]

Dude I already told you, you can customize SS to exactly what you want. You can add in curls at the end on Mondays and Fridays like I do. Its sort of like combining a full body routine and a split routine. Just add in whatever you need, but every single day you lift (3x a week) you should be squatting and doing either shoulder press or bench press. Deadlift once a week if you're gonna squat 3x a week. Literally everything else is up to you, now go make your OWN program for the goals YOU want!

[SamSix]

Are you currently doing it?

it's not absolutely necessary

a good split > SS

always unless you are a complete beginner with 0 experience in the gym

[Ka0s]

OP since you don't care about strength, you don't need to join a gym brah. Just get one pair of 25lb dumbbells which you can use for your entire training career to get swole

[NZninja101]

OP since you don't care about strength, you don't need to join a gym brah. Just get one pair of 25lb dumbbells which you can use for your entire training career to get swole

Don't forget they have to be pink.

[pattdogg]

I dreamer bulked on SS and gained a fair bit of mass and a fair bit of fat. Lifts sky rocketed many of them even doubling from when I started. Did I see many size gains? Not really. But I now have a solid foundation of strength to build an aesthetic physique on.