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    creatine-HCL vs. monohydrate

    any advantages? never really got into creatine and just wondering if the HCL is worth the money. note, i live at home, and work about 30 hours a week. i save half my money for college and the other goes to...uhm..."gardening supplies" so disposable income is disposable.
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

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    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    any advantages? never really got into creatine and just wondering if the HCL is worth the money. note, i live at home, and work about 30 hours a week. i save half my money for college and the other goes to...uhm..."gardening supplies" so disposable income is disposable.
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    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    any advantages? never really got into creatine and just wondering if the HCL is worth the money. note, i live at home, and work about 30 hours a week. i save half my money for college and the other goes to...uhm..."gardening supplies" so disposable income is disposable.
    Save your money and buy mono.
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    Originally Posted by rowan57 View Post
    Supp Forum ---->>
    i am very aware of the supp forum, ****s borderline misc. if i went there and asked this i'd have 30 guys who barely lift yelling at me to take 20 different over priced pre workouts. i come here cuz this is by far the most aware section
    Originally Posted by HunterCML View Post
    Save your money and buy mono.
    thought so. thinking i'll just buy bulk mono then.
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

    It'd be like preparing your entire life to bang 100 chicks in a row, getting tan, hitting the gym, making sure your hair looks right and reading the Kama Sutra, only to realize when you get there that you're gay and cannot get hard in the presence of women.
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    I had tried con - crete. Micronized doses and no bloat. However, pricey. After cycling off I switched to a generic mono for like $13. Did not experience any bloat, etc. I would say to go mono all the way. It is easily one of the most time tested supplements out there.
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    Originally Posted by rnacdaley View Post
    I had tried con - crete. Micronized doses and no bloat. However, pricey. After cycling off I switched to a generic mono for like $13. Did not experience any bloat, etc. I would say to go mono all the way. It is easily one of the most time tested supplements out there.
    i had a free 5 day serving. TASTE.WAS.AWFUL. does anybody actually bloat from creatine?
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

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    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post
    i had a free 5 day serving. TASTE.WAS.AWFUL. does anybody actually bloat from creatine?
    Never had any probs with bloat from any form of creatine. Yes, you can absolutely cut on creatine as well as that is a typical question.
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    Originally Posted by rnacdaley View Post
    Never had any probs with bloat from any form of creatine. Yes, you can absolutely cut on creatine as well as that is a typical question.
    wasnt gonna ask. i see no reason not too. thanks tho
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

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    Mono from ON or dymatize ftw. Tried con-cret. Got no additional benefit, tasted horrible.
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    ON mono gets the job done. Recommend you put the powder in your mouth and swish water instead of mixing though - stuff doesn't mix for sh!t.
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    Creatine mono does not cause subcutaneous bloating (unless you have an allergy).

    If you're especially paranoid, mix it in warm water, it'll dissolve completely (especially if it's micronized).
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    Now that is a creatine/protein/vitamin/mineral supplement I can sink my teeth into.
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    In after anti-supplement pug.
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    In after anti-supplement pug.
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    You recognize that steak picture? It should look familiar.
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    Originally Posted by Ashlei View Post
    You recognize that steak picture? It should look familiar.
    it did! yet, i cant quite place it..

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    While being 100% too lazy to look a single thing up and blah blah blah, don't you have to eat like 3lbs of beef to get the amount of creatine in a 3g scoop/serving?
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    Originally Posted by Andrew_S View Post
    While being 100% too lazy to look a single thing up and blah blah blah, don't you have to eat like 3lbs of beef to get the amount of creatine in a 3g scoop/serving?
    yes. Note that pug's cut of beef is pretty rare because the more beef is cooked, the less effective creatine it will contain, which means if you eat well done beef, you probably need even more than 3 effing pounds. That being said, nobody on this forum needs 5 grams per day to maintain, as even a person who weighs 250 pounds would need 0.03 g X 113.6 kg = 3.4 grams per day to maintain levels
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    yes. Note that pug's cut of beef is pretty rare because the more beef is cooked, the less effective creatine it will contain, which means if you eat well done beef, you probably need even more than 3 effing pounds. That being said, nobody on this forum needs 5 grams per day to maintain, as even a person who weighs 250 pounds would need 0.03 g X 113.6 kg = 3.4 grams per day to maintain levels
    Thanks!
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    yes. Note that pug's cut of beef is pretty rare because the more beef is cooked, the less effective creatine it will contain, which means if you eat well done beef, you probably need even more than 3 effing pounds. That being said, nobody on this forum needs 5 grams per day to maintain, as even a person who weighs 250 pounds would need 0.03 g X 113.6 kg = 3.4 grams per day to maintain levels
    Didn't know that. Will keep in mind if I ever take creatine mono.

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    Would you prefer to eat ^^^that steak^^^ or consume this:
    Touche, sir.

    But you chose filet. I'd rather have flat iron, ribeye, or strip. I'm not too hot on filet. It's like BnJs of steaks.
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    Originally Posted by The Running Man View Post
    Creatine mono does not cause subcutaneous bloating (unless you have an allergy).

    If you're especially paranoid, mix it in warm water, it'll dissolve completely (especially if it's micronized).
    was unaware about hot water. thanks

    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    yes. Note that pug's cut of beef is pretty rare because the more beef is cooked, the less effective creatine it will contain, which means if you eat well done beef, you probably need even more than 3 effing pounds. That being said, nobody on this forum needs 5 grams per day to maintain, as even a person who weighs 250 pounds would need 0.03 g X 113.6 kg = 3.4 grams per day to maintain levels
    see a 5g scoop fits my macros easier than 3 pounds of steak. wallet too.
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

    It'd be like preparing your entire life to bang 100 chicks in a row, getting tan, hitting the gym, making sure your hair looks right and reading the Kama Sutra, only to realize when you get there that you're gay and cannot get hard in the presence of women.
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    Originally Posted by TomBremner View Post

    see a 5g scoop fits my macros easier than 3 pounds of steak. wallet too.
    This. You can be as anti-supplement as you want, and in many respects I don't blame you, but I don't see why you'd ever resist buying a dirt cheap monohydrate supplement unless you get steak for some absurdly low price.
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    Originally Posted by Mr.Cooper69 View Post
    This. You can be as anti-supplement as you want, and in many respects I don't blame you, but I don't see why you'd ever resist buying a dirt cheap monohydrate supplement unless you get steak for some absurdly low price.
    this. pure mono hydrate is borderline free.
    You are not a fragile ornament ready to collapse into an exhausted mass of goo simply because you squatted more than once in a 7-day week.

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