too much volume?

[johncrazyk123]

currently for biceps I do
4 x 8-10 db curl
4 x 8-10 hammer curl
3x 8-10 preacher

Is this too much volume for biceps?

Also, should I swap chins in there because I do chest bi on monday and back tri on thursday

[Farley1324]

Your training consists of three bicep curls? lol

[HunterMC6]

what program is this Johncrazy and where did you find it?

[johncrazyk123]

what program is this Johncrazy and where did you find it?

made it myself

[johncrazyk123]

Your training consists of three bicep curls? lol

Any suggestions?

[MichaelCJ]

You do legs too, I hope...

Anyway, it all depends what you want out of your routine, whatever that is.

[geoffstgermaine]

There's no way to answer this question based on the information provided. It depends on volume for other body parts, ability to recover, frequency of training, nutrition, etc.

[HunterMC6]

made it myself

This is what I was afraid of. If you want a more concrete plan for gains you should start here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=118004321 and here: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=115643271

I know everyone loves their splits but if you are not versed in exactly how the muscles of the body work then you are likely to be gaining very little by building your own routine. You will be much further ahead if you start off with something that has had proven success.

[johncrazyk123]

I know everyone loves their splits but if you are not versed in exactly how the muscles of the body work then you are likely to be gaining very little by building your own routine. You will be much further ahead if you start off with something that has had proven success.[/QUOTE]

This is just on my bicep part of chest bi
on chest I do
4x5 flat db press
4x5 incline db press
3x8-12 chest dips

Legs
4x5 squat
3x6-8 leg press
2x8-12 lunges

back
BW pull ups 5x 12
BB rows 3x6-8
deadlifts 3x5

triceps
4x8 jm press
3x8-12 skull crushers
4x8-12 BW dips

[johncrazyk123]

I know everyone loves their splits but if you are not versed in exactly how the muscles of the body work then you are likely to be gaining very little by building your own routine. You will be much further ahead if you start off with something that has had proven success.

This is just on my bicep part of chest bi
on chest I do
4x5 flat db press
4x5 incline db press
3x8-12 chest dips

Legs
4x5 squat
3x6-8 leg press
2x8-12 lunges

back
BW pull ups 5x 12
BB rows 3x6-8
deadlifts 3x5

triceps
4x8 jm press
3x8-12 skull crushers
4x8-12 BW dips[/QUOTE]

I meant to put that I do chest bi monday legs tuesday back/bi thurday and shoulders/traps/forearms satuday

[HunterMC6]

did you read anything that I posted?

[johncrazyk123]

did you read anything that I posted?

Squats
Deadlifts
Bench
Rows
Dips
Chins
Overhead pressing

I have every movement here besides chins which I do pull ups instead of. I never asked whether I should switch from a split routine. All I wanted to know is if I was doing too much direct bicep work.

[HunterMC6]

Squats
Deadlifts
Bench
Rows
Dips
Chins
Overhead pressing

I have every movement here besides chins which I do pull ups instead of. I never asked whether I should switch from a split routine. All I wanted to know is if I was doing too much direct bicep work.

I am happy for you but you didn't answer my question

[Farley1324]

I have every movement here besides chins which I do pull ups instead of. I never asked whether I should switch from a split routine. All I wanted to know is if I was doing too much direct bicep work.

But...

This is just on my bicep part of chest bi
on chest I do
4x5 flat db press
4x5 incline db press
3x8-12 chest dips

Legs
4x5 squat
3x6-8 leg press
2x8-12 lunges

back
BW pull ups 5x 12
BB rows 3x6-8
deadlifts 3x5

triceps
4x8 jm press
3x8-12 skull crushers
4x8-12 BW dips

...you don't have any direct bicep work listed up there...

[johncrazyk123]

But...




...you don't have any direct bicep work listed up there...

my op has my bicep work

[Farley1324]

my op has my bicep work

Is it too complicated to ask that you list your entire routine together in one post?

When I see what looks like it is probably your full routine listed, but then I know of at least one thing missing, I wonder what else you happened to leave out

[johncrazyk123]

Is it too complicated to ask that you list your entire routine together in one post?

When I see what looks like it is probably your full routine listed, but then I know of at least one thing missing, I wonder what else you happened to leave out

Monday Chest/bicep
4 x 8-10 db curl
4 x 8-10 hammer curl
3x 8-10 preacher
4x5 flat db press
4x5 incline db press
3x8-12 chest dips

Legs-tuesday
4x5 squat
3x6-8 leg press
2x8-12 lunges

back /tri thurday
BW pull ups 5x 12
BB rows 3x6-8
deadlifts 3x5

triceps
4x8 jm press
3x8-12 skull crushers
4x8-12 BW dips

shoulders/traps-saturday
military press 4x6
lat raises 3x12
front raises 3x12
upright rows 3x8
DBshrugs 3x6

sorry for not being clear

[geoffstgermaine]

It's better to base your program off of a tried and true plan. Let's see... you have almost as much volume for your biceps as for your entire lower body (plus, where's any hamstring/calf work). Upper back volume is lower than shoulder volume, which is out of whack.

[johncrazyk123]

It's better to base your program off of a tried and true plan. Let's see... you have almost as much volume for your biceps as for your entire lower body (plus, where's any hamstring/calf work). Upper back volume is lower than shoulder volume, which is out of whack.

This post is a little out of place. You didn't really read my OP because if you did you wouldn't be critiquing my whole routine. I was simply asking if I was doing too much for biceps. As for hamstrings, squats, leg press and lunges leaves my hamstrings plenty sore the next day. Also, I do calf raises usually once or twice a week.

[HunterMC6]

This post is a little out of place. You didn't really read my OP because if you did you wouldn't be critiquing my whole routine. I was simply asking if I was doing too much for biceps. As for hamstrings, squats, leg press and lunges leaves my hamstrings plenty sore the next day. Also, I do calf raises usually once or twice a week.

If you are this confident in your routine why are you asking us about your bicep training? If it gives you the results you desire just do it. if it doesn't you know where to look to find something that will work.

[geoffstgermaine]

This post is a little out of place. You didn't really read my OP because if you did you wouldn't be critiquing my whole routine. I was simply asking if I was doing too much for biceps. As for hamstrings, squats, leg press and lunges leaves my hamstrings plenty sore the next day. Also, I do calf raises usually once or twice a week.

No, it's completely in line with the vague question asked in your first post. Your biceps volume is too high compared to other parts of your program. If you don't want a critique then why ask for one in the first place?

[johncrazyk123]

No, it's completely in line with the vague question asked in your first post. Your biceps volume is too high compared to other parts of your program. If you don't want a critique then why ask for one in the first place?

Fair enough, repped for your time.

[Arm_Wrestler]

No, you are not doing too much volume for biceps. In my opinion, you are not even close to bordering too much volume for biceps. Add some BB curls, or replace one of the DB (preferably the regular DB curl) with the BB curl.

[johncrazyk123]

No, you are not doing too much volume for biceps. In my opinion, you are not even close to bordering too much volume for biceps. Add some BB curls, or replace one of the DB (preferably the regular DB curl) with the BB curl.

Thanks for the reply. I really do like doing BB curls but I had an unfortunate incident with them once that resulted in a slight stress fracture in my left forearm.