17 years old. FIRST SHOW!!

[Hockey1123]

Hey, so I am 17 years old. 5 foot 10 181 pounds. I would like to compete for june and i was wondering how many weeks out i should start dieting?. My bf is a little on the high side, i would like to step on stage around 155-160 if this is possible. Here is some pics of me. THANKS FOR THE HELP!!

[Collinbeloin]

Hey, so I am 17 years old. 5 foot 10 181 pounds. I would like to compete for june and i was wondering how many weeks out i should start dieting?. My bf is a little on the high side, i would like to step on stage around 155-160 if this is possible. Here is some pics of me. THANKS FOR THE HELP!!

You should start a healthier diet now so you arent just staying bulky then tryin to slim down fast, take out unhealthy things, lower calories, increase cardio but not so much you have a huge difference, start trying to lose light weight and fat now and then turn it up probably 15-12 weeks out. Just my advice i could be wrong I am no expert

[wayy4]

I was at fifteen to seventeen percent body fat and I dieted for three months and got done to six percent body fat. That's just what bf estimator said used the same one the whole time so I no I lost some bf

[adamrochester]

dont take this harsh way save your teenage years keep mass gaining maybe to a mini cut and dont compete until your 19 or turning 20 that year so your top age keep the gains coming bro !

[Hockey1123]

dont take this harsh way save your teenage years keep mass gaining maybe to a mini cut and dont compete until your 19 or turning 20 that year so your top age keep the gains coming bro !

I understand where you are coming from!, but i thought since my BF is high now i would cut down to 7%ish. Compete for the excpierence, and then do a year bulk. I don't feel comfratable with the BF i am at now so i rather cut down then bulk up without raising the BF above 12-13%

[Avaric3]

If anything, I'd say cut to where you're comfortable then bulk for competition from there. Then once you've put on some solid mass, you can get prepped to compete

[roidmonkey911]

16 week diet sounds reasonable to me.... Any less than that I would assume that your going to be sacrificing some LBM while shredding those last few pounds

[c24lamp]

16 week diet sounds reasonable to me.... Any less than that I would assume that your going to be sacrificing some LBM while shredding those last few pounds

I have to agree, why go so hard in 12 weeks or less. you're still young and will present a better quality physique if you take your time. You also won't have to drastically cut food from week to week.

[adamrochester]

just cut down to 9-10% then bulk again man trust me teen age years dont last for ever keep smashing food and training while your hormone levels are still banging

[Hockey1123]

Thanks for the advice!, I think I am going to bulk up for another 5 months and compete in october, I really want to get lean and see what my body looks like in contest shape. Then after that contest I am going to bulk for a solid year if not more and gain muscle while in my teenage years! That way i will be bulking with a lower bf to and will try to keep it around 13%

[Chest-Rockwell]

you'll need more then 5 month

tbh i clicked your pics, i thought you were 230+ judging by bf

you need to build some muscle first

[Hockey1123]

you'll need more then 5 month

tbh i clicked your pics, i thought you were 230+ judging by bf

you need to build some muscle first

Inb4 no pics.. And i no my bodyfat is a little high but if you thought i was 230 from the pics you my friend have no clue about bodybuilding...

[vermeer]

You need to cut down.... and that is final. you will then need to do a clean bulk. good luck

[Loctus]

Thanks for the advice!, I think I am going to bulk up for another 5 months and compete in october, I really want to get lean and see what my body looks like in contest shape. Then after that contest I am going to bulk for a solid year if not more and gain muscle while in my teenage years! That way i will be bulking with a lower bf to and will try to keep it around 13%

Bulk for five more months and then compete in october? oh my.. From the point where you're at NOW you will need to diet for like six months to come in shape.

[lunchboy]

Thanks for the advice!, I think I am going to bulk up for another 5 months and compete in october, I really want to get lean and see what my body looks like in contest shape. Then after that contest I am going to bulk for a solid year if not more and gain muscle while in my teenage years! That way i will be bulking with a lower bf to and will try to keep it around 13%

Cut down to 10% then clean bulk till you're 19 then cut for a teen contest towards the end of your 19th year. These are the years of your life that trying to cut to contest will be counterproductive to becoming a successful competitor. You can put on the most mass now, take advantage of it, a lot of us didn't, you still have time.

[tumtum]

you're about 40 lbs from stage lean...

so.. cut about 20.. then build and hold off on the stage

[Hockey1123]

you're about 40 lbs from stage lean...

so.. cut about 20.. then build and hold off on the stage

When should i start cutting then?

[Hockey1123]

you're about 40 lbs from stage lean...

so.. cut about 20.. then build and hold off on the stage

and i appriciate your advice but what your saying is WRONG lol 40 pounds from stage ready... I am 180 pounds now no way my bf is about 20 max, so lets say i am at 20%, this mean i have 36 pounds of bodyfat so to get to 6 percent i would have to drop 25-30 pounds...

[CaseySmithBB]

and i appriciate your advice but what your saying is WRONG lol 40 pounds from stage ready... I am 180 pounds now no way my bf is about 20 max, so lets say i am at 20%, this mean i have 36 pounds of bodyfat so to get to 6 percent i would have to drop 25-30 pounds...

Hockey,

First of all, without seeing the condition of your lower body, it is impossible to make a fair judgement of what your current bodyfat % is. However, based on your upper body, you have a significant amount of fat to lose in order to come into stage-worthy shape. I know it sounds absolutely ridiculous, but based on the look of your physique, you really do need to lose 30-40lbs of fat in order to achieve a competitive physique.

Here is a great example of how deceiving bodyfat can be:

Alberto Nunez
Pic on the left @ 180lbs, Pic on the right @ 160lbs


That's TWENTY pounds he lost and his condition was already very well in place.

Focus on putting yourself in a calorie surplus, fitting your macronutrient requirements, and applying a training program with an emphasis on progressive tension overload so that you can utilize your teenage years and your potential for growth. Dieting down and putting yourself in a caloric deficit will only take away this precious time that you have that your body is naturally surging with hormones.

It could very well take 30+ weeks to properly shape the composition of your body to be near stage-worthy. Disregard the possibility of even coming close to being ready in 12-16 weeks. Unless you are on drugs (and arguably even if you took all the drugs you could find), that's far too short of a time frame to lose the amount of bodyfat you need to in order to bring a competitive physique. You will inevitably burn out, lose muscle, overtrain, or put yourself in such a caloric deficit that you lose your mind.

You have great potential! Give yourself some time to develop your body more and you will not regret it. The stage will always be there.

[Hockey1123]

Appriciate the advice man! I think we're all in an agreement that I should cut soon, my bf is high so I think I am gonna cut come may and get down to 8-10% and from there evaluate if I am able to keep cutting and compete if not I'll clean bulk and try to stay kind of lean!

[tumtum]

good example casey

Hockey.. no hate was intended.. before i really followed competitors i thought a 6 pack meant the stage was right around the corner.. i was dead wrong

most guys literally need to take the weight they believe they need to cut and double it to get as lean as they need to be... but then again.. some guys only get down to 7% on stage.. but the winners get to 4-5%

[lunchboy]

good example casey

Hockey.. no hate was intended.. before i really followed competitors i thought a 6 pack meant the stage was right around the corner.. i was dead wrong

most guys literally need to take the weight they believe they need to cut and double it to get as lean as they need to be... but then again.. some guys only get down to 7% on stage.. but the winners get to 4-5%

From what I'm lead to believe people get down to lower than 4% in the high end pro shows (natty of course). Like high 3's sometimes. I couldn't imagine being that lean...