Kai Greene is a good bodybuilder ans showed his potential to dethrone Mr Olympia Phillip Heath at the Sheru classic, and in the opinions of some is the best current poser in the IFBB (IMO its Heath but thats already been put to the poll).
Kai has yet to win an Olympia, please review the video evidence of 20 years + of Olympia champions, all these guys who won the O have a form of applause begging cleverly slotted into their routines, some double handed (Yates), some over head (Coleman) and underhand (Cutler, Dexter and Heath). Without a doubt applause beggin pumps up the crowd and makes a routine more exciting IMO. Kais routines are very good but lack crowd interaction. No other pro since Haney in the 1980's has won an Olympia without applause begging, why should Kai break this trend.
Here are the 5 champion ship rountines
1)Yates (@3.34 you will see double hand applause begging)
2)coleman (@1.29 you will see overhead applause begging)
3)Dexter(@3.03 you will see underhanded applause begging)(Could not find on youtube)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/201878...ybuilder_ever/
4)Cutler(@1.58 you will see underhanded applause begging)
5)Heath(@1.45 you will see underhanded applause begging)
Now you have seen proof that 100% of Olympia winners over the last 20 years have utilised applause begging please vote in the poll.
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View Poll Results: Can kai break a 20 year trend and win an Olympia without applause begging?
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YES Kai should introduce applause begging.
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NO Kai can win an Olympia without applause begging.
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01-24-2012, 10:01 PM #1
Kai Green add applause begging to his posing routines? (20years video evidence)
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01-24-2012, 10:03 PM #2
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01-24-2012, 10:05 PM #3TEAM WOLF + TEAM KAI +TEAM CEDRIC + TEAM ROMGLE - TEAM RAMY - TEAM FAIR JUDGING
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01-24-2012, 10:07 PM #4
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01-24-2012, 10:25 PM #7
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01-24-2012, 10:29 PM #8
True but at the top level the guys who applause bge look the most confident to me, Kais could applause beg in his own way, Yates has a different style from heath but IMO it makes them look ultra confident, Kai is technically a very good poser BUT IMO somehow lacks pumping up the crowd like the others do. Only IMO.
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01-24-2012, 10:31 PM #9
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01-24-2012, 10:36 PM #11
yes thats a factor but what I am trying to say is that no one has won the olympia in 20+ years wthout a posing routine that has applause begging, obviously if heath apeared on stage 6 weeks out but doubled up on the applause begging then he would not win, but saying Kai and Phil are pretty much neck and neck, i think Phils more crowd friendly routine would give him the edge over Kai with his less interactive style. At their level it would come down to tiny margins and thats what this thread was about. If applause begging was not valid them it would not have existed over the last 20 years and all the Mr O winners use applause begging which IMO is more than just random chance that the guy with the best conditioning happened to like applause begging.
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01-24-2012, 10:38 PM #12
Its true the crowd do cheer for KAI, BUT what applause begging does it helps the pro control the crowd and step things up a little, Heath is a master of this, IMO his routines would not be as entertaining without applause begging. I think in the right part of Kais routine it would help.
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01-24-2012, 10:45 PM #13
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01-24-2012, 10:47 PM #14
You know fullROM, at first I wasn't sure if this was the real you or not. After your many bans I knew you made a couple of new accounts which was wrong, but what was worse I thought were others I'm sure that made accounts pretending to be you.
Anyways after another classic thread in full fullROM style, I'm sure this is really you. I will say that you do have a certain ecclectic way of looking at things. A for effort today.
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01-25-2012, 12:20 AM #19
gotta add the robot too, crowds love the robot.
throw in a little moonwalk too.the crown awaits."Like those in the valley behind us, most people stand in sight of the spiritual mountains all their lives and never enter them, being content to listen to others who have been there and thus avoid the hardships."
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01-25-2012, 02:36 AM #24
So the key to bodybuilding success is to make a little hand gesture. Damn, I knew there was some big secret I didn't know!
We're dodging more ninjitsu attacks than Flex Wheeler. We're ducking more bullets than George Farah. We're facing more death than a kid leg pressing at Branch Warren's gym.
You can't stop us. You can't hold us back.
IFBB brahs über alles.
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01-25-2012, 03:19 AM #26
This reminds me of this....
''There’s this battle over waterboarding at places like Guantanamo Bay. I think that they should just say, “Hey, if you guys don’t talk, you have to see Hercules In New York.” I guarantee those guys would talk much faster. You don’t need to do waterboarding or anything else. That’s the ultimate threat.''
Arnold Schwarzenegger
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''Well that's a kick in the gentleman relish'' MaKaiser
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