What about being black or Latino makes it harder to acquire wealth/get a job?

[...Rousseau...]

I don't really understand this idea of white privilege in the 21st century. Do employers look at applicants and say "he's black, I'm not hiring that guy." and it's certainly not harder to get an education, there are even specific scholarships for that, so what is it? (srs)

[Xhesi]

the man

[Xanthippus]

Victim mentality. Racist white people are so rare these days. Chances are if they don't hire someone from a minority that person hasn't taken the time to learn the language or customs of their new found home.

[...Rousseau...]

I've never really heard good arguments explaining this idea (srs)

[Christianyouth]

I've never really heard good arguments explaining this idea (srs)

Do you want to read a good book that looks at this issue?

[...Rousseau...]

Do you want to read a good book that looks at this issue?

idk is it by tim wise?

[joat]

Racism does exist in the workplace when it comes to hiring. We all know for entry-level positions it's not about what you know, but who you know, especially considering they train you from square one. White managers will usually rather hook up their white buddies graduating from college, same with Indians... always hiring other Indians until their workplace is like ****in Mumbai and you got a bunch of idiots taking half hour prayer breaks that nobody else gets. Asians, same idea... always want to hire other Asians.

[ClothesRod]

white people apparently own everything?

i don't know I've never worked for a white man. same thing with feminism imo. apparently the system keeps them down yet they make up 60% of university students.

just mostly in English cultural studies and woman's studies.
and i only had women teachers for math and science so. . .

and my entire life ive been told as a white man ive been given everything and have it super easy.

tbh i don't get it either.
people who live in gettos that white cops harass have an issue. but normal everyday people pls go

[wulpurgis]

I don't really understand this idea of white privilege in the 21st century. Do employers look at applicants and say "he's black, I'm not hiring that guy." and it's certainly not harder to get an education, there are even specific scholarships for that, so what is it? (srs)

it has to do with the circumstances you are born into.

most minorities, **** even most whites, have fairly lower income circumstances.

but of the elite, they are mostly white, they have rather high level income circumstances.


it's not about being black or latino, it's about being poor..... it's not about being white, it's about being rich. economic issues often are masked as race issues.

[CDbrah]

inb4 a socialist

[BENNAYBOY]

average black IQ is like 85, borderline mentally retarded by white person standards

[AnorexicBodyBro]

It's just an excuse. It's like me using my height as an excuse for not being able to get any chicks, the real problem is I never leave my apartment.

[Christianyouth]

idk is it by tim wise?

No, it's by Charles Murray or it's a collection of his essays. It's called "Charles Murray and the Underclass" -- do you want me to put his theory out here and then we discuss it or do you want to read the book(it's on library.nu)?

He's not a windbag academic so he actually writes with arguments/to make his points -- He's the guy who co-wrote the Bell Curve

[p7nk]

average black IQ is like 85, borderline mentally retarded by white person standards

lmao

[KiwiAllSort]

average black IQ is like 85, borderline mentally retarded by white person standards

It's a medical fact that blacks have a significantly smaller brain stem which obviously means lower intellect. It's just not talked about in PC society.

[burtblakcork]

fear of screwing all the white wimmenz
bbc
bmw

and its easier being a drug dealer anyways..brb out

[BeardBrahhh]

This is highly dependent on the nature of the industry they are attempting to work in, but I will assume you mean white collar industries such as banking, etc

One theory is the language barrier between the different subcultures, mainly urban subculture and white middle class subculture. No matter how intelligent someone actually is, if they do not speak properly and use proper grammar, they might be perceived as less intelligent than they actually are. It's just subtle differences really, but they begin to factor. Examples:

"What time is it?" vs "What time it is?"

"Is that true?" vs "Word?"

"I plan to go to lunch at twelve" vs "I'm fittna get my lunch on"

and so on.

Not to say that there aren't plenty of whites who speak poorly, but they are also likely not working jobs that allow them to aquire mass sums of wealth. This is just one theory though, there are plenty others, the point is that the powers that be that control the industries in which whites dominate the top typically have a culturally rooted idea of proper behavior and the qualities one needs to possess in order to win them over and it is usually from a white middle class perspective.

Other factors include the requirement for a clean criminal background, demonstration of work history, fashion/style (gold teeth vs no gold teeth for example)... all of these factors are used to prevent those from "urban" culture from excelling in the white middle class culture. If you adopt the culture, such as CNN anchor Don Lemon, they can succeed.

[HermanMunsterII]

I don't really understand this idea of white privilege in the 21st century. Do employers look at applicants and say "he's black, I'm not hiring that guy." and it's certainly not harder to get an education, there are even specific scholarships for that, so what is it? (srs)

Nothing.

brb, latino.
brb, making double the average HOUSEHOLD income at 25.
brb, degrees(edited to plural) like a MF from awesome schools.
brb, u mad bro?

[Negatron617]

depends on the position

you might want a certain look or background to better relate to the clientele

[TaeBoNinja]

I don't really understand this idea of white privilege in the 21st century. Do employers look at applicants and say "he's black, I'm not hiring that guy." and it's certainly not harder to get an education, there are even specific scholarships for that, so what is it? (srs)

1) YES, many employers do say, "he's black, I'm not hiring that guy.", even worse, when it comes to promotions, this bias is even more dramatic. This is why I started my own business.

2) Education for most Latino/Blacks is horrible. I'm talking bad schools, barely competent teachers, and rules which don't allow them to expel problem students who cause 95% of the disruptions. Nevermind the huge class sizes in these schools.

[helpmee]

I've never really heard good arguments explaining this idea (srs)

How many generations has the average american "white" family had to succeed
How many generations has the average american "black" family had to succeed

Having a successful family makes it much easier to be successful yourself... (start up capital, connections, jobs, etc)


If you are black right now in high school your father/mother could of gone to a school that was racially segregated (1969 court ruling/time to implement/the south lolz= 1970s) "black" schools = crap in 1970s...

"he's black, I'm not hiring that guy."

You would have to be pretty naive to think this still doesn't happen and will EVER stop..

[wulpurgis]

inb4 a socialist

edit your post, you posted after me.......

[Scottidott]

The only thing stopping them, is the lack of a functioning brain.

[...Rousseau...]

Seems like public schools and dialect are the main things that could be changed then. It is true that schools in low property tax areas get less funding, and education is an investment in the future.

[HermanMunsterII]

It's just an excuse. It's like me using my height as an excuse for not being able to get any chicks, the real problem is I never leave my apartment.

You might as well stay home and fap. At 5'7", you probaly won't get laid anyways.

[Scottidott]

How many generations has the average american "white" family had to succeed
How many generations has the average american "black family had to succeed

Having a successful family makes it much easier to be successfully yourself... (start up capital, connections, jobs, etc)


If you are black right now in high school your father/mother could of gone to a school that was racially segregated (1969 court ruling/time to implement/the south lolz= 1970s) "black" schools = crap in 1970s...


You would have to be pretty naive to think this still doesn't happen and will EVER stop..

What about Asian and Indian immigrants, they are in the same situation but they have no problem with acquiring jobs and wealth?

[wulpurgis]

Seems like public schools and dialect are the main things that could be changed then. It is true that schools in low property tax areas get less funding, and education is an investment in the future.

yep.

the US favors standardized testing, which doesn't help either. States like Florida get "smarter students" by dropping the testing level, so that the scores go up.....

[StrongMeat]

only one thing really


your peers(or suspected peers)

-StrongMeat-

[WhatDidYouDo]

nothing my dad came from mexico and is dark skinned and made 300k this year(srs)

owns his own company

[jwlee7ucla]

Victim mentality. Racist white people are so rare these days. Chances are if they don't hire someone from a minority that person hasn't taken the time to learn the language or customs of their new found home.

from what I see in the misc, racism runs rampant here for white people.