This is Why America Fuking Sucks and Will Continue to Suck. It's a Fuking Disease.

[docmansound]

You people need to understand it is the system that has failed, if anything. Capital gains are taxed at a lower rate, that's the way it works.

Capital gains are taxed at a lower rate because Bush (another millionaire) along with Congress (many of whom are millionaires) made it that way. I wonder why?

[Tears]

This thread is why OP fuking sucks and will continue to suck. OP is a fuking disease.

[cmeis90]

Age: 21


Everyone deserves to keep what they earn. The issue is that he gets to keep more of it while rest pay double what he pays. Don't jump into discussions to throw in obvious statements.

You retard.

OK. Thing is 95% of people who complain about this kind of stuff are envious and greedy. I suppose I jumped to conclusions about your argument because I don't have all day to read it. My bad op. Yes this is a loophole that maybe should be closed, but at the end of the day EVERYONE pays too many taxes and all this type of talk seems to accomplish is more government interference, taxation, and suppression of liberties.

[tbonez3858]

Tax codes how do they work? We don't know so let's just attack a guy because we can't grasp the concept...wait wut?

and oh yeah the Dems have made just as much money off of the current tax code as the Republicans...

[KRNEKIM]

OK. Thing is 95% of people who complain about this kind of stuff are envious and greedy. I suppose I jumped to conclusions about your argument because I don't have all day to read it. My bad op. Yes this is a loophole that maybe should be closed, but at the end of the day EVERYONE pays too many taxes and all this type of talk seems to accomplish is more government interference, taxation, and suppression of liberties.

Your argument fails, so you attack their motivation like you're a fuking mind reader, instead of sticking to the argument.

Your age is still 21 by the way, you *******.

[KRNEKIM]

Tax codes how do they work? We don't know so let's just attack a guy because we can't grasp the concept...wait wut?

and oh yeah the Dems have made just as much money off of the current tax code as the Republicans...

Who said anything about Democrats being innocent? This isn't a thread bashing Republicans either.

Do you really view the world through GOP/DEM filter? Life is not black and white / your team vs my team. Grow up.

[RootedEvo]

Homeboy.. I gotta be honest with you for a second.
I know I'm not usually very well spoken here and whatnot, but with you, I gotta be honest my man.













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Cliffs??

[wulpurgis]

i agree with OP.

[tbonez3858]

Who said anything about Democrats being innocent? This isn't a thread bashing Republicans either.

Do you really view the world through GOP/DEM filter? Life is not black and white / your team vs my team. Grow up.

if you think this isn't being played out on a political level at a left vs right perspective then I'm not the one that needs to grow up...I'm not a Republican but I bet you that the state of the union is FILLED with liberal driven class warfare tonight.

Make sure you know the left doesn't give a f*** about people...they care about control through social means
The Republicans don't give a f*** about people..they care about control through fiscal means

Same goal different method...people get f***ed.

[CommonPheasant]

What simpletons like the OP don't realize is that investment income is taxed twice, and the capital gains you see taxed at 15% is only the second phase of the tax.

15% capital gains tax is more than fair. I don't have a problem with Mitt Romney's income or tax rate one bit. Only people who lap up all the class warfare demagoguery are bothered by it.

I have capital gains income too BTW, granted not anything like Mitt's, but I wouldn't want to pay more than 15% on it. Flat tax FTW.

[Layziebones]

Age: 21


Everyone deserves to keep what they earn. The issue is that he gets to keep more of it while rest pay double what he pays. Don't jump into discussions to throw in obvious statements.

You retard.

Dude he pays the same ****ing amount as everyone else.

Capital Gains Taxes =/= Income Taxes.

They are not taxed at the same level. Not sure why that is so ****ing hard for you to understand. You are more than welcome to invest and pay the same percentage on your gains as Romney.

[UrbanNomad]

This thread is a perfect example, mofo's can't read a paragraph.

[leafs43]

OP got owned in the religion and politics section with facts and examples so he comes here to try and rally the regular misc thinking you are all dumb.

[BossMadOne]

Its all one big joke, for Newt to win S. Carolina they got to be some stupid ****ing people. That man is everything that is wrong with our government.

[leafs43]

Capital gains are taxed at a lower rate because Bush (another millionaire) along with Congress (many of whom are millionaires) made it that way. I wonder why?

Clinton dropped the capital gains rate from 28% to 20%.

[cmeis90]

Your argument fails, so you attack their motivation like you're a fuking mind reader, instead of sticking to the argument.

Your age is still 21 by the way, you *******.

So you think that overall when people talk about raising taxes in the very general sense in pretty much all cases, they aren't envious and want to take some of somebody else's pie and "spread around the wealth"? IDK if your sig is accurate calling yourself a "Ron Paul Revolution Member" either if you are so pro tax increase for ANYONE. The trend needs to go down not up. All the politicians do is use public outcry on issues like these (and this can be seen as a legitimate concern as the % is lower than people making less as you have yelled out) and tax the people even more and line their pockets and continue with pet projects that waste billions. I'm sure Romney can use the money he has personally more effectively than Congress and the criminals in the federal system who like power for power's sake.

Any policy that puts less money in the hands of the slime that has become our "government" is ok with me.

Also what does my age have anything to do with it? Yes I am 21... *******.

[super_tactical]

ITT OP has Ron Paul in his sig but probably wants higher federal taxes on the rich.

[tbonez3858]

What simpletons like the OP don't realize is that investment income is taxed twice, and the capital gains you see taxed at 15% is only the second phase of the tax.

15% capital gains tax is more than fair. I don't have a problem with Mitt Romney's income or tax rate one bit. Only people who lap up all the class warfare demagoguery are bothered by it.

I have capital gains income too BTW, granted not anything like Mitt's, but I wouldn't want to pay more than 15% on it. Flat tax FTW.

But..but..he is rich..and evil..Can't we rob him? I mean shouldn't we? Why should he have more than someone who hasn't done sh** with their life...

(shouldn't have to say it but not srs)

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[SemperParatus]

flat tax

[epicfail101]

Stopped reading op's post when he said

"Romney paid in total effective 13.8% taxes on 24 million dollar income. Nothing more nothing less. He owes no more taxes because the system allows him to keep most of his earnings. 3 million out the door, flat, tax. He gets to keep 21 mill from his 24."

You have a fcking problem with a system that lets you keep your own earnings? Wtf is wrong with you...strong left wing logic. I understand that people need to be taxed but that is one of the most retarded things I have ever read.

[gixxer0.6g]

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[kooldude]

This thread is EXACTLY why America is the way it is. The OP is right but the posters in here are actually attacking him.

Cliffs:
- The ultra-rich gives "campaign donations" to politicians which in turn, makes laws that are favorable for the rich
- Ultra-rich makes most of their money in capital gains so having laws that lower the tax on capital gains to what is now 15% (think of this way: A banker is taxed at 15%; his secretary is taxed at 37%)
- When the economy collapsed, the middle class and the poor are left to pay for all bc the ultra-rich aren't paying their fair share of taxes

Taxes are collected for a reason. For all the posters that say "why shouldn't Romney keep most of their money?" What if for every $10 you and Mitt earn, he keeps over $8 but you only keep $6. How is this fair?

[Layziebones]

This thread is EXACTLY why America is the way it is. The OP is right but the posters in here are actually attacking him.

Cliffs:
- The ultra-rich gives "campaign donations" to politicians which in turn, makes laws that are favorable for the rich
- Ultra-rich makes most of their money in capital gains so having laws that lower the tax on capital gains to what is now 15% (think of this way: A banker is taxed at 15%; his secretary is taxed at 37%)
- When the economy collapsed, the middle class and the poor are left to pay for all bc the ultra-rich aren't paying their fair share of taxes

Taxes are collected for a reason. For all the posters that say "why shouldn't Romney keep most of their money?" What if for every $10 you and Mitt earn, he keeps over $8 but you only keep $6. How is this fair?

Romney pays 3 million in taxes and you probably pay maybe $20,000.

You are both receiving the same government services. Police, public roads, schools, firefighters etc. The list goes on. Who is paying more? Romney, by an extremely wide margin. Your return is over a $1 per $1 you pay in taxes. Romney probably gets about $0.10 back in services per dollar of taxes he pays. So it is his job to pay more because you failed at life? Come on now.

[HollywoodBody]

He paid what taxes he what required to, the majority of his money comes from investments which are taxed far, far less.

I'm not saying I agree with it, but why should he pay more? Nobody became wealthy by paying more than they had to.

the majority of his money comes from business profits of companies he's associated with, consulted with, invested in, etc.

It's not like he's making his money from the stock market. It's a little sketchy when we say his income is from "investments". it isn't realy

[Nutcase]

I'll tell you one thing. All this shyt has gotten to be too much for me.
After that thread yesterday about the cops that shot the crowbar wielding guy < 10 fuking times at close range, and dealing with the ignorant retarded wastes of human DNA in that thread, i will not enter threads or even state my opinion on things that happen in your country. I know Australia is not far off, and thats why i pay attention to U.S, cos what happens there affects us.
I'm honestly not even going to comment on Australian stuff of this nature, freedom, human rights, politics etc.
Ron Paul cannot save America. Nobody can save America. Just as nobody can save Australia.
I'm not sure the people are even worth saving honestly, just crowds and crowds of mindless ignorant incompetent babbling idiots.

I'm just gonna kick back and wait for someone to push the big red button and end this stupidity, and i'm actually starting to think it wouldnt be a bad idea.

[TakeYourMulti]

it's useless arguing politics in the misc, especially with the rampant amount of inbred rednecks lol

[spursbrah]

OP speaks the truth. (no liberal)

[spursbrah]

it's useless arguing politics in the misc, especially with the rampant amount of inbred rednecks lol

Lol no Liberalz tryn ta steal ma money!!

[BballBuilder]

Lol @ the americans saying that taxes are evil.

BRB no public health care
BRB economy in collapse
brb one of the worlds largest divisions in rich vs poor



I constantly see middle/lower class americans defend this type of thinking because they all believe that one day they'll be rich. So ****ing stupid.