Sports compared to professional bodybuilding.....

[Lvisaa2]

Olympic sports aren't also a lifestyle? Have you seen the training regiment of Michael Phelps? Or the time water polo players spend training? Those are all lifestyles.

I'm not saying which one is harder, because it is a stupid comparison and no one here has the experiences to support their statements.

[RoroCwalker]

Olympic sports aren't also a lifestyle? Have you seen the training regiment of Michael Phelps? Or the time water polo players spend training? Those are all lifestyles.

I'm not saying which one is harder, because it is a stupid comparison and no one here has the experiences to support their statements.

Remind me Phelps' nutrition?
He spams cardio and carbs.

[mebby]

most fans of bodybuilding will say it's the toughest sport out there. I think that most physical sports take that much dedication to be the best of the best (top 5 in the world). most sports as in...90% of sports excluding sports such as archery and cricket

Cricket, least toughest? Someone clearly never played for their country. Brb batting and bowling for 4-6 hours straight, with only 1/2 breaks between and concentration and speed has to be at the top, or water boy errrrrrrrrrrr time.

[Zachary533]

At a professional level of any sport (except badminton etc) it would be both physically/mentally taxing.


But dehydrating myself for near 30hrs was one of the hardest things I've ever done, period

[TTimmerman]

fact is if we're sticking to amateur level comparison... there simply is no comparison...

[wolfpilp]

most sports at elite levels are extremely difficult.
|But I tend to believe that for the serious amateur this is not the case,some are way more difficult than others.

[JanesLastResort]

On an amateur level there are sports that make bodybuilding seem like a walk in the park and that's just being real. However, on a professional level it is likely that bodybuilding has even odds of being one of the most difficult of sports.

[wolfpilp]

On an amateur level there are sports that make bodybuilding seem like a walk in the park and that's just being real. However, on a professional level it is likely that bodybuilding has even odds of being one of the most difficult of sports.

i believe exactly the opposite of this.

[JanesLastResort]

i believe exactly the opposite of this.

So at an amateur level competitive bodybuilding is harder than any other sport, yet it gets easy in the professional ranks?

[DomzyCuttin]

You guys underestimate how hard real contest prep is. Sure doing cardio, training, and proper eating are not that hard. But 1 hour plus cardio, extremely painful weightraining, and very low carbs when you are in the low single digits of bf %, and your on 5 compounds that make you feel like **** is very hard. Now try and maintain this for weeks and week before a show. An MMA fighter can eat a big mac combo the week before an event and it wont **** him over. Basketball players have full out buffets with ribs, fried chicken, mashed potatos... But these guys are expected to perform when they feel great, they usually feel great unless they are injured. Bodybuilders feel like absolute garbage for weeks and have to keep excelling and sacrificing. Bodybuilding training is not the hardest, but bodybuilders are at the weakest and they have to keep pushing. Mentally it is one of the hardest activites/sports around.

For the guy who said something about hanging out back stage with your buddies and hitting a few mandatories... Have you competed? Do you know what happens at shows? Guys need oxygen, guys go into paralysis... I was on stage and had cramps that made it feel like my limbs were getting chopped off. A guy beside me fell over and was not allowed to continue. 3-5 months of suffering out the window because his body couldnt handle it. You think its pleasant when you havent slept for weeks because of all the crap your on and then you dehydrate while having sex fantasies about food, then you gotta get up and hold poses and seem like its nothing. How often do other athletes topple ove because their systems are so weak. On top of this you are out working to support this. Every moment 2 months before a show is consumed by this.

Dont get me wrong. The "bodybuilding" most of you do is easy and will always be easy. Real bodybuilding is only for people who have very special focus and mind set. Not to mention genetics, financial circumstances, support from partner/family, willingness to risk health. Its only easy on paper.

[Lvisaa2]

Remind me Phelps' nutrition?
He spams cardio and carbs.

Okay? Your point being? His nutrition fits his training. You're obviously biased beyond your control if you truly think that because he eats lots of carbs and does cardio (Herpderp that's what he competes in) makes it not a lifestyle. No where did I say which was harder, because they aren't necessarily comparable. Yet to assume elite athletes don't dedicate their lifestyle towards their sport is idiotic.

[FAN0FdaSport]

I think its kinda of silly to compare sports. Everyone genetically has different strengths which they apply themselves to. Aerobic sports make it crucial that they have a high VO2max capacity and other sports require muscle activation of the arms and legs blah blah. I kinda like that everyone can still try to make the most of themselves in bbing, but if you suck at tennis, you will and always suck... Somewhere I bet theres a life and death arguement of which sport being harder between track and basketball or something lol

[RoroCwalker]

Okay? Your point being? His nutrition fits his training. You're obviously biased beyond your control if you truly think that because he eats lots of carbs and does cardio (Herpderp that's what he competes in) makes it not a lifestyle. No where did I say which was harder, because they aren't necessarily comparable. Yet to assume elite athletes don't dedicate their lifestyle towards their sport is idiotic.

Well then, why did you bring up Phelps?
He's basically every fat people's dream, eat sht and remain lean.

[TTimmerman]

You guys underestimate how hard real contest prep is.

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[santana77]

lmfao so many fking retards in this thread it makes me feel pathetic for being on this site.


How many of you dip ****s have actually completed a real contest prep diet? Come back to me when you have.

[Zachary533]

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Me too.

[Brofessional]

You guys underestimate how hard real contest prep is. Sure doing cardio, training, and proper eating are not that hard. But 1 hour plus cardio, extremely painful weightraining, and very low carbs when you are in the low single digits of bf %, and your on 5 compounds that make you feel like **** is very hard. Now try and maintain this for weeks and week before a show. An MMA fighter can eat a big mac combo the week before an event and it wont **** him over. Basketball players have full out buffets with ribs, fried chicken, mashed potatos... But these guys are expected to perform when they feel great, they usually feel great unless they are injured. Bodybuilders feel like absolute garbage for weeks and have to keep excelling and sacrificing. Bodybuilding training is not the hardest, but bodybuilders are at the weakest and they have to keep pushing. Mentally it is one of the hardest activites/sports around.

For the guy who said something about hanging out back stage with your buddies and hitting a few mandatories... Have you competed? Do you know what happens at shows? Guys need oxygen, guys go into paralysis... I was on stage and had cramps that made it feel like my limbs were getting chopped off. A guy beside me fell over and was not allowed to continue. 3-5 months of suffering out the window because his body couldnt handle it. You think its pleasant when you havent slept for weeks because of all the crap your on and then you dehydrate while having sex fantasies about food, then you gotta get up and hold poses and seem like its nothing. How often do other athletes topple ove because their systems are so weak. On top of this you are out working to support this. Every moment 2 months before a show is consumed by this.

Dont get me wrong. The "bodybuilding" most of you do is easy and will always be easy. Real bodybuilding is only for people who have very special focus and mind set. Not to mention genetics, financial circumstances, support from partner/family, willingness to risk health. Its only easy on paper.

Hard for me to have any respect for upper level BB'ers after watching a friend (top nationals competitor) prep and talking to a fellow nationals competitor + pro friend of his. It's just about who can tolerate the most drugs the longest without dying from the actual drugs or the narcotics/other drugs needed to handle the side effects. Their size, conditioning etc is just a mix of drug and gene response. Everyone uses SEO to boot. I like some of their physiques and emulate the sport in my own way as a hobby, but what goes on at the top behind the scenes (going through the motions and surviving drug addiction) is just not admirable to me.

[FAN0FdaSport]

Hard for me to have any respect for upper level BB'ers after watching a friend (top nationals competitor) prep and talking to a fellow nationals competitor + pro friend of his. It's just about who can tolerate the most drugs the longest without dying from the actual drugs or the narcotics/other drugs needed to handle the side effects. Their size, conditioning etc is just a mix of drug and gene response. Everyone uses SEO to boot. I like some of their physiques and emulate the sport in my own way as a hobby, but what goes on at the top behind the scenes (going through the motions and surviving drug addiction) is just not admirable to me.

why don't you try dieting

[DavisForman]

Hard for me to have any respect for upper level BB'ers after watching a friend (top nationals competitor) prep and talking to a fellow nationals competitor + pro friend of his. It's just about who can tolerate the most drugs the longest without dying from the actual drugs or the narcotics/other drugs needed to handle the side effects. Their size, conditioning etc is just a mix of drug and gene response. Everyone uses SEO to boot. I like some of their physiques and emulate the sport in my own way as a hobby, but what goes on at the top behind the scenes (going through the motions and surviving drug addiction) is just not admirable to me.

Ignorance is bliss

[Brofessional]

Ignorance is bliss

Go ahead and educate me since I'm 'so ignorant' as your comment says in my CP.

why don't you try dieting

Are you kidding me?

[DavisForman]

Go ahead and educate me since I'm 'so ignorant' as your comment says in my CP.

All these dead bodybuilders man... I don't know how the morgues even have room for them.

[Brofessional]

All these dead bodybuilders man... I don't know how the morgues even have room for them.

The phuck? Who said anything about dead bodybuilders? I said the sport is literally all drugs + tolerating those drugs, which it is. The average person would die from that ****, but they have the genes not to.

Can't wait to hear someone tell me how someone with average/below average drug tolerance genetics could handle 5 grams of AAS + slin + 30iu of GH + narcotics and ancillaries

[DavisForman]

The phuck? Who said anything about dead bodybuilders? I said the sport is literally all drugs + tolerating those drugs, which it is. The average person would die from that ****, but they have the genes not to.

Yeah, I know, that's what I'm talking about too.

Don't you think it's crazy that the only guys who get into bodybuilding and using all that gear are the genetic freaks that can handle it without dying?

Insane coincidence.

[FAN0FdaSport]

Are you kidding me?

if you've never dieted for a show or just for yourself even, its pretty much the equivalent to someone saying something isn't hard without them ever having done it

[Brofessional]

if you've never dieted for a show or just for yourself even, its pretty much the equivalent to someone saying something isn't hard without them ever having done it

I've dieted down to stage condition naturally once (my only fat loss supp was a cup of coffee in the morning). The only thing hard about it was basically being hungry instantly after every meal, but you get used to it. I've also watched guys locally drop to 6% on tren/mast/prop/t3/eph/clen/var effortlessly and then proceed to tighten things up to get the last few % off for true stage condition. Dieting is simple unless you have some emotional attachment to food. Competitors miss the mark for other reasons when it comes to conditioning

[FAN0FdaSport]

I've dieted down to stage condition naturally once (my only fat loss supp was a cup of coffee in the morning). The only thing hard about it was basically being hungry instantly after every meal, but you get used to it.

fair enough

dieting is different for everyone though, not everyone would say its as simple as yourself and have a much harder time.

[RoroCwalker]

I've dieted down to stage condition naturally once (my only fat loss supp was a cup of coffee in the morning). The only thing hard about it was basically being hungry instantly after every meal, but you get used to it. I've also watched guys locally drop to 6% on tren/mast/prop/t3/eph/clen/var effortlessly and then proceed to tighten things up to get the last few % off for true stage condition. Dieting is simple unless you have some emotional attachment to food. Competitors miss the mark for other reasons when it comes to conditioning

Do you often see people lose consciousness when they come in as conditioned as possible (naturally)?

[Brofessional]

Do you often see people lose consciousness when they come in as conditioned as possible (naturally)?

Never seen it happen at a natty comp...non tested comp is a dif story. Some guys are on drugs like Lisinopril to combat high BP. Lisinopril can also have a negative effect on potassium levels. Throw in a diuretic like lasix, low water consumption, and certain AAS that will dry you out further and you got a perfect recipe for someone to drop. I can tell you from experience it's common practice for a lot of these NPC nationals guys to do s-hit like only wet their mouth with water 72 hours out from comp while also sitting in saunas etc.. same methods as a lot of the middle eastern BB'ers you see. Pretty much asking for trouble in the wrong body

[RoroCwalker]

Never seen it happen at a natty comp...non tested comp is a dif story. Some guys are on drugs like Lisinopril to combat high BP. Lisinopril can also have a negative effect on potassium levels. Throw in a diuretic like lasix, low water consumption, and certain AAS that will dry you out further and you got a perfect recipe for someone to drop. I can tell you from experience it's common practice for a lot of these NPC nationals guys to do s-hit like only wet their mouth with water 72 hours out from comp while also sitting in saunas etc.. same methods as a lot of the middle eastern BB'ers you see. Pretty much asking for trouble in the wrong body

Alright..but isn't there some dizziness after flexing on stage? (naturals)
I mean...if I'd like to get out on stage dry as fk in a natural competition, to a level that most competitors can't reach, is there any chance of it happening?

[Brofessional]

Alright..but isn't there some dizziness after flexing on stage? (naturals)
I mean...if I'd like to get out on stage dry as fk, to a level that most competitors can't do, is there any chance of it happening?

I think if you peak right you'd be fine. The 3dmj guys are good at timing hydration and proper carb loading for a natty. Haven't heard any of those types of complaints out of their camp. Plus being 'dry' as a natty is basically just being shredded and in shape 2 weeks out and ready to go and peaking right without spilling over.

...and it's mostly individual from there. I felt fine at that low of bf, but a friend of mine that competed in the IFPA Muscle Mayhem show said he felt like death on stage and just wanted water...he didn't care if he won or lost at that point. It just depends how you feel below your bf set point.