Original Super Saiyan (3,000 Years Old) VS Legendary Super Saiyan (Broly)

[MexNazi]

What about Bardock(Goku's father)?

[DeadOfNight]

The Original Super Saiyan was destroying galaxies and wreaking havoc across the Universe before Broly was doing that.

Broly only survives planetery explosions because he has the ability to harness an Energy Shield which allows him to breath through space.

As I said, the Original Super Saiyan destroyed a planet, simply by ''Powering Up'' and losing it. Its basically what Gohan was doing in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, where he first transformed briefly into a SSJ and couldn't control it, but the OSSJ just blew up instead, taking the planet with him.

Thats not his ''raw'' power. Thats just the oil from the engine that contributed to the fire.

strong knowledge of DBZ/10

just curious, how long ago was it you watched the series?

[RattTail]

What about Bardock(Goku's father)?

He died at the hands of Lord Frieza, I think hes posted in this thread.

strong knowledge of DBZ/10

just curious, how long ago was it you watched the series?

I have it on my phone, and listen to it at the gym.

[StrongMeat]

Planet Vegeta (the one frieza destroyed) was called that because Vegeta's father (king Vegeta) conquered it from the Truffles and named it after himself.

Also during the Namek saga, vegeta explains that the original super saiyan couldn't control his power and accidentally destroyed the planet he was on. So no, Planet Vegeta was not their original homeworld.

key bit of information, that doesnt mean he was on their home planet

-StrongMeat-

[DeadOfNight]

I have it on my phone, and listen to it at the gym.

ah, ok. i havent watched it properly in a while and only watch my fav scenes now and again so there is a lot ive forgot about the whole thing. i see you mentioned daizenshuu which is an awesome site for DB. sadly the whole power level thing that you mentioned doesnt register with my brain too good.

[DANZ0]

- Original Super Saiyan's power level was never stated.

- The picture you posted in the OP "Nori" is a fan character.

- In the new special where Bardock is sent back in time, it doesn't necessarily insinuate he was going to be the Super Saiyan of legend. Only that he was the source of Freiza's ancestors not liking the Saiyans. That is even if you consider that canon.

- Best characters are (in no order):
. Gohan (Cell Games only)
. Future Trunks
. Raditz (Yeah, you read that correctly).
. and Bardock

[sogeking]

naruto

[_Ishy]

- Original Super Saiyan's power level was never stated.

- The picture you posted in the OP "Nori" is a fan character.

- In the new special where Bardock is sent back in time, it doesn't necessarily insinuate he was going to be the Super Saiyan of legend. Only that he was the source of Freiza's ancestors not liking the Saiyans. That is even if you consider that canon.

- Best characters are:
1) Gohan (Cell Games only)
2) Future Trunks
3 tied) Raditz and Bardock (Yeah, you read that correctly).

wut

[CuriousGM]

key bit of information, that doesnt mean he was on their home planet

-StrongMeat-

Vegeta states that the Original Super Saiyan destroyed the Original Saiyan Homeworld immediately after his transformation, thus forcing the remaining Saiyan survivors to flee to Planet Plant (which is now Planet Vegeta).

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Original_Super_Saiyan

[FuriousTiger]

Mr Stan

[brodacious]

FYI this is SUPPOSEDLY the original Super Saiyan, Bardock. The episode wasn't made by Akira Toriyama, so it's not legit. A great watch though, brought great memories.

[bigpoppi18]

how was he the strongest if he had no equal? becuase from my understanding sayians get stronger from fighting to near death which goku did many times

[TheBarbellTolls]

FYI this is SUPPOSEDLY the original Super Saiyan, Bardock. The episode wasn't made by Akira Toriyama, so it's not legit. A great watch though, brought great memories.

There's a bit of debate over that, and it's only because at the end the voiceover says that's how the legend of the super saiyan began. The original Bardock special was awesome though and Bardock is a badass so he gets my vote.

[strike8892]

Actually there was a new episode released recently where the legend of supersaiyan comes from Bardock. Just saiyan'

Came in to say this. It's heavily implied that bardock is the first super saiyan.

[BLAQSAQATTAQ]

GUYS..



Guys....

Imagine....SSJ4 BROLY

HOLY PHUCK

[StayPerfect4Me]

You have to remember this new episode isn't made my Akira. Bardock being the first super saiyan doesn't fit with the manga. It's something that has no basis whatsoever.

[Giorgi0Tsoukalo]

GUYS..



Guys....

Imagine....SSJ4 BROLY

HOLY PHUCK

[StayPerfect4Me]

strong avi to post content ratio

[Hercu1e]

i show both of them what a sick kunt i am.


Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[No1Asian]

vegeta

[PSTriple]

Once chaioutzu gets mad, it's over

[StayPerfect4Me]

Once chaioutzu gets mad, it's over

[pumplikecuming]

you do realize if it was a direct hit, it would have wiped him out completely.

way way way more powerful than goku's kamahameha

start this video at 35 seconds and you tell me which blast is more powerful

Ok kamehameha isn't one of Goku's higher level energy attacks. Spirit bomb is the most powerful move in the entire saga, and only goku can do it well.

Sweet prince

Alternate ending for a reason.

Look I am not arguing with any of you that Vegeta is badass. He is my favorite character from the entire Dragonball series. But lets be real here, he was never as powerful as Goku, always 1 step behind...but he always nutted up.

[Nefariousx1]

- Original Super Saiyan's power level was never stated.

- The picture you posted in the OP "Nori" is a fan character.

- In the new special where Bardock is sent back in time, it doesn't necessarily insinuate he was going to be the Super Saiyan of legend. Only that he was the source of Freiza's ancestors not liking the Saiyans. That is even if you consider that canon.

- Best characters are (in no order):
. Gohan (Cell Games only)
. Future Trunks
. Raditz (Yeah, you read that correctly).
. and Bardock

lol at that list....no

Ok kamehameha isn't one of Goku's higher level energy attacks. Spirit bomb is the most powerful move in the entire saga, and only goku can do it well.

yes like i said earlier, the final flash attack was the single most powerful attack made by a DBZ warrior WITHOUT THE HELP OF OTHERS....jeez

[mazaa]

Someone please post the different kind of Dragon Ball series? (will measly rep)

I remember as a kid watching DBZ.
I also know of DB GT.

What else is their? Confused as phuck.

Used to love Gohan as a kid, but he became a ******* when he was a teen.

My ordered fav's;
- Vegeta
- Goku
- Tien

[ScudBro]

this ****ing guy:

[RattTail]

- Original Super Saiyan's power level was never stated.

The Original Super Saiyan was stated to only be able to maintain his status in the ''transformed'' state. According to Daizenshuu, the foundation for a regular SSJ is above 120,000,000. (Goku was 150,000,000) and Future Trunks on Earth against Frieza was predicted to be around 155,000,000.

- The picture you posted in the OP "Nori" is a fan character.

The ''Nori'' pic is for visualization purposes of a normal pic for the thread, since there are limited images of the OSSJ

- In the new special where Bardock is sent back in time, it doesn't necessarily insinuate he was going to be the Super Saiyan of legend. Only that he was the source of Freiza's ancestors not liking the Saiyans. That is even if you consider that canon.

Nope. Its non-canon. It wasn't written by Akira Toriyama. Its irrelevant. Bardock couldn't be the ''OSSJ'' because he hadn't destroyed the Saiyans homeplanet.

[bottlez]

What about Bardock(Goku's father)?

imagine how strong raditz could have become

[chakalvoador]

broly is stronger cuz he has more muscle

[Curtiz]

Broly would win.

If the energy needed to kill himself wasn only the same as that of destroying a planet then how could he possibly be stronger than broly.

If he was that strong wouldn't he have at LEAST taken a galaxy along with him.

The fact he destroyed himself with the SAME energy needed to destroy a planet PROVES he must be ALOT weaker than broly.

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