Why do people follow IIFYM?

[stfaulk89]

Have any of you ever taken a nutrition class? It seems that you are all are trying to reinvent the wheel by stating that calories are calories, and it doesn't matter if it's from ice cream, poptarts, big macs, fried chicken, or hotdogs as long as your macros are met you are doing a-okay. Does trans fat not matter? Does the difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs not matter??

[CaseyJamess]

I agree with you bro
all the elite level bb's fitness models don't do this bull**** IIFYM approach

[paylowsore]

Because brosef said it was good

[blazin-asian]

i lost about 20 lbs doing the IIFYM approach but ate wholesome foods to meet my macro and micro nutrient goals. people who eat garbage yet think a calorie is a calorie are also the same ones who wonder why they still look like shiet after all that dieting.

[racketteer]

it's the lazy approach. the gains won't be quite as lean but hey, I cant be bothered counting out all the calories let alone go through the trouble to break down meals into specific macro targets and then pile on the complex vs simple debate. seriously, how many people care that much? unless somebody is going to pay me for being cut up then I'll still say fukk it.

you also don't need to eat like absolute sh*t to do IIFYM's.

[sithroya]

because people want to eat kit kats

[wheels30]

stop making gay threads about this...*******

Do whatever you wanna do

[stfaulk89]

stop making gay threads about this...*******

Do whatever you wanna do

I've never made a thread about this.

i lost about 20 lbs doing the IIFYM approach but ate wholesome foods to meet my macro and micro nutrient goals. people who eat garbage yet think a calorie is a calorie are also the same ones who wonder why they still look like shiet after all that dieting.

And the people who say a calorie is a calorie is who I want ITT

[Conspiracybrah]

Everyone who counts their macros follow IIFYM whether they like it or not OP. They follow IIFYM because they like to count their macros.

[Impudent]

iifym is more of a thing that lets you not be OCD about your diet. I don't give a **** if I eat candy during the day or ice cream, because in the grand scheme of things, as long as it's in moderation it won't have any negative effects on my body. there's no point in making sure everything you eat is "clean".. you can easily fit candy, ice cream, and soda into your diet whether you want to lose fat or gain muscle..

the problem is when everything you eat is junk food but it fits your macros.. you will probably notice health problems and less gains

[stfaulk89]

Everyone who counts their macros follow IIFYM whether they like it or not OP. They follow IIFYM because they like to count their macros.

Obviously. I'm talking about the people who say a calorie is a calorie, or a carb is a carb.

[Conspiracybrah]

Obviously. I'm talking about the people who say a calorie is a calorie, or a carb is a carb.

stop hating on IIFYM then, its not IIFYMs fault (no wk).

also the difference between simple and complex carbs are very very small, the only difference really is the GI levels and how simple carbs (sugar) is worse for your teeth than complex carbs. Trans-fats matter yes but the amount of transfat eaten today is extremely small, its not served at mcdonalds and many other fast food restaurants.

edit: thats in terms of bodycomposition, not health wise, simple carb sources have very small amounts of micronutrients which could effect your workouts and energy levels therefore complex carbs are overall better, but eating simple carbs is alright aslong as you get micronutrients in your diet

[Ka0s]

Have any of you ever taken a nutrition class? It seems that you are all are trying to reinvent the wheel by stating that calories are calories, and it doesn't matter if it's from ice cream, poptarts, big macs, fried chicken, or hotdogs as long as your macros are met you are doing a-okay. Does trans fat not matter? Does the difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs not matter??

No, that **** doesn't matter
It has no effect on body composition

[stfaulk89]

No, that **** doesn't matter
It has no effect on body composition

You first said trans fat, simple carbs and complex carbs all do not matter.. and that's what im disagreeing with here. One is without a doubt the better choice than the other.

[JacqueAttack]

You first said trans fat, simple carbs and complex carbs all do not matter.. and that's what im disagreeing with here. One is without a doubt the better choice than the other.

son.. IIFYM is designed for body composition not overall well being and health. Simple carbs and complex carbs have the same effect on the body FOR body composition, no one said sugar's gonna make you live longer in comparison to rice/oats.

[MyBodyIsRdy420]

son.. IIFYM is designed for body composition not overall well being and health. Simple carbs and complex carbs have the same effect on the body FOR body composition, no one said sugar's gonna make you live longer in comparison to rice/oats.

This...maybe some of us don't give a phuck about the health aspect of things? I lift to get bigger, not to get healthier. I eat big to get bigger, not to get healthier. I couldn't eat 4-5k in clean foods all day long.

[E90335i]

Have any of you ever taken a nutrition class? It seems that you are all are trying to reinvent the wheel by stating that calories are calories, and it doesn't matter if it's from ice cream, poptarts, big macs, fried chicken, or hotdogs as long as your macros are met you are doing a-okay. Does trans fat not matter? Does the difference in simple carbs vs complex carbs not matter??

My nutrition class told me a calorie is a calorie and athletes only need 100 grams of protein at most per day. The teacher said all proteins are the same whether its from beef or beans and thats why everyone should be a vegetarian. True story. That's another why I don't Recommend going to purdue.

[GymShowerNap]

A carb is a carb when it comes to body recomposition. Why are you even arguing this *******.


And BBers don't eat simple carbs/"junk" for other reasons, regarding looking dry/contest prep etc.

[Ninetysix]

http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-n...clean-eating/#

[Ka0s]

You first said trans fat, simple carbs and complex carbs all do not matter.. and that's what im disagreeing with here. One is without a doubt the better choice than the other.

As the above poster said, trans fats can be easily avoided even by a heavy fast-food eater.

Why do you think complex carbs are superior to simple carbs for body composition purposes (assuming that this is what you think)?

Edit: Again, you are arguing health, not body composition. Pls go

[lmb518]

First, let me start off by saying all of my facts are from peer reviewed data.

The first point I want to counter is the first one that really struck me as I read through all of the responses. This is the point ConspiracyBrah made when he said "the only difference really is the GI levels and how simple carbs (sugar) is worse for your teeth than complex carbs."

This is horribly incorrect. A simple carb digests quickly and causes a rapid surge in your blood glucose level. This stimulates an over prodution of insulin by the pancreas. This, in turn, elevates plasma triaclyglycerol and accelerates fat synthesis. In addition to this, it may also reduce the body's sensitivity to insulin, causing your body to progressively need more and more insulin to optimize blood sugar levels. Eventually, this will lead to Type 2 diabetes.

As for what you eating having no effect on body composition, as KaOs stated, I have already begun debunking that, as simple carbs are proven to lead to fat synthesis in relation to the insulin surge.

Your diet should be primarily carbohydrates (~60%), followed by protein (~15-25%), then the rest of your calories from fat, or lipids. Lipids, carbohydrate, and proteins all serve a valuable purpose in your body's daily operations. With carbohydrates, you body will break down proteins and fats for energy. The breakdown of fats produces ketone bodies which, in excess, lead to an acidity referred to as ketosis. The excessive breakdown of protein stresses the liver and kidneys as it tries to cope with the deamination of the amine group and the excretion of urea, which can lead to dehydration among other things.

[ll ReNeGaDe ll]

http://www.thegreatfitnessexperiment...e-instead.html

[CuriousGM]

I agree with you bro
all the elite level bb's fitness models don't do this bull**** IIFYM approach

Lmao yes they but they're also juiced outta their minds.

[Wolf200]

It's funny how every single person who bashes IIFYM doesn't actually understand IIFYM.

[Ka0s]

This is horribly incorrect. A simple carb digests quickly and causes a rapid surge in your blood glucose level. This stimulates an over prodution of insulin by the pancreas. This, in turn, elevates plasma triaclyglycerol and accelerates fat synthesis. In addition to this, it may also reduce the body's sensitivity to insulin, causing your body to progressively need more and more insulin to optimize blood sugar levels. Eventually, this will lead to Type 2 diabetes.

Oh really?

Do you also avoid eating protein for the same reason?

* One recent study compared the effects of two different meals on insulin. *One meal contained 21 grams of protein and 125 grams of carbohydrate. *The other meal contained 75 grams of protein and 75 grams of carbohydrate. *Both meals contained 675 calories. *Here is a chart of the insulin response:

http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319

[Conspiracybrah]

First, let me start off by saying all of my facts are from peer reviewed data.

The first point I want to counter is the first one that really struck me as I read through all of the responses. This is the point ConspiracyBrah made when he said "the only difference really is the GI levels and how simple carbs (sugar) is worse for your teeth than complex carbs."

This is horribly incorrect. A simple carb digests quickly and causes a rapid surge in your blood glucose level. This stimulates an over prodution of insulin by the pancreas. This, in turn, elevates plasma triaclyglycerol and accelerates fat synthesis. In addition to this, it may also reduce the body's sensitivity to insulin, causing your body to progressively need more and more insulin to optimize blood sugar levels. Eventually, this will lead to Type 2 diabetes.

As for what you eating having no effect on body composition, as KaOs stated, I have already begun debunking that, as simple carbs are proven to lead to fat synthesis in relation to the insulin surge.

Your diet should be primarily carbohydrates (~60%), followed by protein (~15-25%), then the rest of your calories from fat, or lipids. Lipids, carbohydrate, and proteins all serve a valuable purpose in your body's daily operations. With carbohydrates, you body will break down proteins and fats for energy. The breakdown of fats produces ketone bodies which, in excess, lead to an acidity referred to as ketosis. The excessive breakdown of protein stresses the liver and kidneys as it tries to cope with the deamination of the amine group and the excretion of urea, which can lead to dehydration among other things.

I have yet to see someone get diabetes type 2 from eating sugar without being fat unless they already had many type 2 diabetes in their family.

[lmb518]

Have you met everyone in the world? Also, you are not arguing the fact that simple carbs promote fat synthesis, Conspiracy.

@KaOs
I balance my Carbohydrates, Lipids, and Proteins. I avoid very little in my diet. I am, however, careful to make sure it is balanced.

[lmb518]

Also, KaOs, does this study you found on the (infallible) internet state what type of carbs were used?

[phillyfreak7]

I do IIFYM... Not a single F is given

[Ricky66]

This guy does it



And yes, he's natty