If you are sleeping and awaking up like around 4am, is there any advantage to consume a low cal. protein supplement with WATER and then retiring back to bed. I want to know if this is good for keep my system with its nutritional needs and would like to know if it aids in bulking for muscle mass. Not having any food for at least 7 hours may not be good.
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01-13-2012, 07:37 PM #1
Overnight nutrition protein shake
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01-13-2012, 07:43 PM #2
^Not having food for 7 hours is absolutely fine.
Assuming that your overall diet is in check, and that you're hitting your targeted macronutrient intake, there's no magical advantage in consuming protein shakes at this odd hour.
sounds like someone haven't read the stickies yet. All good bro, just FYI, your body does not need proteins as often as the supplement companies told you.IIFYM - Try to get most of your macros from whole foods. They are high in micronutrients and are needed to maintain overall health
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01-15-2012, 02:32 PM #8
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Completely your preference, if it helps you to get back to sleep, then why not. If your are doing it simply because you think you are getting some sort of "anabolic affect" in order to illicit greater protein synthesis, or some such nonsense, then no, go back to sleep and eat when you are hungry.
Personally on nights I can't sleep a small glass of milk seems to help me, bout the only time I drink milk, usually about 6oz does it.
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Considering that you are still digesting the eggs and sausage from your breakfast (a day before you went to bed) and absorbing the amino acids from the protein while you are sleeping... why would you think there would be a benefit to doing this? If you felt you did not get enough net protein for the day just drink your shake before bed.
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01-17-2012, 08:09 PM #18
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I cherish my sleep way too much to wake up. I see your point about getting some extra protein in the middle of the night, but remember when your in your deep sleep your body is producing testosterone. I would suggest taking a time released Casein protein just before bed. It usually takes your body 4 to 6 hours to break down Casein protein. You could also take some ZMA to help you get your deep sleep and efficient test production. Best of both worlds!
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01-17-2012, 08:14 PM #19
This ^^^ guy,
Here's a small article for support http://johnberardi.com/articles/nutrition/bedtime.htmSeek truth and reason
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01-17-2012, 11:27 PM #23
The Biological Value of Specific Protein Sources
Chart 3A
B.V.
Whey 106-159
Egg 100
Cow's Milk 91
Casein 80
Soy 74
Beef 80
Fish 83
Chicken 79
Wheat Gluten 54
Kidney Beans 49
Source: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/anthony8.htm
I wouldn't consume all my protein from whey in 8 shakes, either, but dimissing it previously for the reasons you stated is incorrect.
http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top...-debunked.html
Read number #4 and #6
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01-18-2012, 01:54 AM #24
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01-18-2012, 12:40 PM #26
The BV 100+ thing is bs, the most it can be is "100 percent". I'm still obsessively getting my nitrogen balance tested.
We can mentally masturbate all day here, but you have to check everything. What you are not getting might be the difference. All it takes is a missing nutrient to really slow down your progress."ham boy"
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01-18-2012, 12:51 PM #27
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You obviously have never watched Spinal Tap.
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01-18-2012, 08:25 PM #29
You have to look at protein synthesis. What seems like enough protein from whey might not be enough. "Insufficient carbohydrate and fat consumption. To support protein synthesis, good quality fats and carbohydrates should be available for energy purposes. If one consumes primarily protein, without considering the importance of the other macronutrients, the body may metabolize protein for energy purposes, thus lowering the nitrogen balance - valuable amino acids will be shuttled to vital organs thus depriving the muscles of exactly what they need for growth."
from http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson75.htm
It could work, but everything else would have to be perfect. That's why sometimes bodybuilders will cut on a 250 gram protein diet."ham boy"
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01-18-2012, 08:51 PM #30
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