Supplement Safety/Information Guide For Parents, Kids, and Potential Users

[J1nx93]

thanks a lotyall, repping people at random everyday in here. and remember

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What is THE BEST preworkout in your opinion. I want to try assault but if you think something is better I'll get it, cause I know you know your stuff

[Hyruliangoat]

When did you buy your 1st supplement brah?

when I was 15. I 1st bought muscle milk and creatien mono lol. My 1st 3 months where I went from 160-185 I just took that and occasionally the mri pre workout sticks. then I jumped into super pump 250 which was my 1st pre lol.

What is THE BEST preworkout in your opinion. I want to try assault but if you think something is better I'll get it, cause I know you know your stuff

Non stims- pumpbol, hemavol, cbol

stims- pre surge unleashed, white flood

even better if you can combine 1 and 1. Like do psu cbol for instance. great combos.

[J1nx93]

when I was 15. I 1st bought muscle milk and creatien mono lol. My 1st 3 months where I went from 160-185 I just took that and occasionally the mri pre workout sticks. then I jumped into super pump 250 which was my 1st pre lol.



Non stims- pumpbol, hemavol, cbol

stims- pre surge unleashed, white flood

even better if you can combine 1 and 1. Like do psu cbol for instance. great combos.

Reps for u sir

EDIT: after recharge

[Here2Improve]

in on 1st page.

[Hyruliangoat]

Reps for u sir

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np. tell me what you think about them if you use one.

[Micii]

cool thread OP

[Loctus]

[ptwa9]

Mmmk. Now which course was this the final paper for?

[Hyruliangoat]

Mmmk. Now which course was this the final paper for?

Wasn't for any class LOL...

I get asked a lot on here and in rl especially about supplements and safety so I figured I would do this. It's always "my mom says x supp is bad, what do i say to her" so figured I would write this!

[TeenLifterr]

Good post! Hopefully will save alot of people posting there parents are against supps.

[ptwa9]

Wasn't for any class LOL...

Lies! Noone puts that many references unless it's a term paper. :P

You should totally save it though and hand it in for a research project where they let you pick the topic.

[Hyruliangoat]

Good post! Hopefully will save alot of people posting there parents are against supps.

thanks mayne!

Lies! Noone puts that many references unless it's a term paper. :P

You should totally save it though and hand it in for a research project where they let you pick the topic.

it really wasnt lol! Oh heck yeah, my dad told me that after I wrote it lol, def a good idea.

[SicilianFool]

gjdm, srs

[MakDanny]

I had to look up a couple of terms, but I seriously feel very more attentive and knowledgeable in what I will take and what I will not take for supplements. The thread is so in depth and just so professionally written, not to say that the amount of evidence is mindblowing. I appreciate ALL the time you put into this! THANKS!

I hope everyone that visits this thread will read it all, and comprehend the terms that seem unfamiliar because its worth every second of reading.

[Hyruliangoat]

I had to look up a couple of terms, but I seriously feel very more attentive and knowledgeable in what I will take and what I will not take for supplements. The thread is so in depth and just so professionally written, not to say that the amount of evidence is mindblowing. I appreciate ALL the time you put into this! THANKS!

I hope everyone that visits this thread will read it all, and comprehend the terms that seem unfamiliar because its worth every second of reading.

Thanks man It seriously means a lot. I need to go fix my spelling on some stuff though lol and I forgot to mention the authors of like 2 points.

[WildHockey]

****s on ****gy thyme

[Xuaxace]

If you look for protein supplements you will be bombarded with many different brands each saying something different on the label. Upon looking at the label you will find these 2 terms more than anything.

• “Concentrate”- which is essentially whey that still contains lactose and the fat content.

• “Isolate”- which is essentially whey that has been stripped of the contents listed above. Keep in mind isolates are going to be more expensive and not really worth the extra cost, although it may help some with any GI distress they experience.

On some labels you may see that the protein has been processed through “ion exchange”, others you may see something along the lines of “cross flow filtration”, “micro filtration” etc. Below are the differences between them and my reasoning as to why the latter methods are more ideal when selecting a protein powder.


ION EXCHANGE

• The process is scientifically defined as “separates molecules on the basis of differences in their net surface charge.”. [5]
  
  
• Depending on the specificity of the method, IE uses different chemicals, ions, PH, heat etc. and determines different levels of purity and protein left over. [6]
  
  
• While IE generally yields a higher purity, it also separates the immunoglobulins and the positive constituents of the whey which provide potential health benefits. [6]

MEMBRANE FILTRATION

o scientifically defined as “type of pressure driven membrane filtration, which is used for separating particles, microbes or molecules from liquids” [6]

o Uses various pore sizes on different membranes [6]

o Broad category, microfiltration, ultra filtration, cross flow filtration, reverse osmosis, etc fall under this category [6]

o Retains a higher concentration of the positive sub fractions of whey unlike IE. [6]

But are these “sub fractions” worth stressing over? Let’s take a look at some of the health benefits of the isolated sub fractions and whey as a whole

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I liked this part, lots of people go waste their money on Isolate for no good reason (just to get the purest form protein post workout with water...) when in reality it has less health benefits and is a hell of a lot more expensive, ridiculous. (Unless they can't handle lactose ofcourse)

Also good to know about the filtration process. I remember reading in 2-3 years ago when I was trying to tell my mum how whey was made, had quite forgotten about it. My whey is membrane filtered, feels good.

[Hyruliangoat]

I have some isolates just because I enjoy the taste but thats the only reason why. But yeah I agree. and thanks a lot man

[Loctus]

I heard that supplementing vitamin c can damage your arteries. Also that if it's taken post workout it will increase required recovery time. Thus my question is: Is Vitamin C safe to supplement? How much should I take? When should I take it (ie. how do I time my intake)?

Thank you. I'm sorta worried about this.

[gillG]

Good post man, really good for people new to creatine!

[Gilooo]

I LOVE YOU (HOMO). Thank you so much for posting this man, finaly convinced my mom that theres nothing wrong with taking whey protein powder after workout -.-

[baxx]

thank you guy

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[snorkelman]

Thoughts of creatine while cutting? I'll be at around 400 cal deficit and doing weights and cardio.

It is just fine. It will help you hold onto mass while you are on a cut.

Is cycling still recommended (I can tell that it's common)?

Controversial topic. No real hard solid evidence that cycling is needed, but MOST users will cycle. If you do, when you go "off" you need to be off for a minimum of 4-6 weeks if your goal is to allow your levels to return to baseline.

Re: taking creatine with a carb drink, does a whey shake provide enough high GI carbs, or should be really be taking it with gatordate, powerade, etc?

There is no need to take creatine with anything special. Carbs are not needed for uptake, and there is no real-world benefit to "enhancing" uptake via carbs. It is just fine to dump into a whey shake if that's what you were planning on.

Time of day is still no longer an issue,

^^ correct.

... loading is no longer necessary, correct?

correct

[skeeet27]

what to drink creatine with?

[Peoples5375]

Would taking a pre workout such as acg3 give me high blood pressure?

[ILLuSioNzX]

Hey, I just wanted to thank everyone who contributed to, and still contributes to this thread, it helped answer many of my questions I had about the stuff, and all I had to do was search.

[Hyruliangoat]

remember if anyhone has questions feel free to ask!