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    Way better than I anticipated. I've not read it all, but will finish it at work.
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    Nice work OP. Tons of good info. I was just debating with a friend the other day about someone on a high protein diet getting a kidney stone. I said it wasn't related to diet, he disagrees. Some research I will have to keep for the future. Thanks.

    65 overweight individuals on a high protein diet showed no signs of kidney damage over a 6 month period. Keep in mind, this is a good sign considering obesity is generally accompanied by impaired function of the kidneys. [18]
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    ive heard creatine and caffeine wrok against each other

    sounds ridiculous but is there any truth to this?
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    "What is loading / the loading phase?
    Loading is the period of time where you increase your daily dose of creatine to increase the level of creatine in your muscles so that it is available for use. It usually lasts for one week.

    How much creatine should I take during the loading phase?
    20g - 25g a day, 1 week - 10 days. This amount should be divided into 4 daily servings.
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    WAIT WUT?
    i heard the body only absorve 5g of creatine per day, the rest of it goes out in the piss, have i heard wrong or wat?
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    Very informative and great post..
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    Originally Posted by Pittsburghh View Post
    ive heard creatine and caffeine wrok against each other

    sounds ridiculous but is there any truth to this?

    Here is a quote that answers your question:
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    There have been two or three laboratory studies with humans that have pointed to the possible inhibitory effects of caffeine independant of timing and at least one other with rodents that showed it reduced muscle phosphocreatine. It does not affect absorption as some think. Beyond the rodent study not really being physiologically relevant, the two human studies commonly cited have some limitations such that the results should be taken with caution; including the studies being very short term, doses used, unknown training and stimulant experience of the subjects and the use of laboratory tests that creatine hasn't always done well with vs. using relevant in-the-gym tests. There is at least one other study that used more relevant testing methods that didn't result in impairment. This is something that really needs to be fleshed out with relevant resistance training tests. Did I say relevant enough?

    Originally Posted by R3PT4R View Post
    i heard the body only absorve 5g of creatine per day, the rest of it goes out in the piss, have i heard wrong or wat?
    You can elevate and saturate leveles faster if you take more than 5 grams per day.
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    How do I take it on the off days? I blend it together with protein powder and dextrose in water after workout, but is it enough to stir it with a spoon in apple juice? It doesn't dissolve very well...(multipower)
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    Originally Posted by MaliBooCRO View Post
    How do I take it on the off days? I blend it together with protein powder and dextrose in water after workout, but is it enough to stir it with a spoon in apple juice? It doesn't dissolve very well...(multipower)
    Put it in hot water, not boiling hot but so hot your still able to drink it
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    Originally Posted by Mullahz218 View Post
    Dat post. Very helpful indeed, enlightened me quite a bit.
    glad you liked ti! =)

    Originally Posted by Stormtron View Post
    read it, good info, actually glad you used citations. Hopefully i can use this as a compelling argument to be allowed to take creatine at home.
    thanks man I appreciate it! if they still dont let you take it let me know as I have some other things to add that I didnt just because I didnt want to make it too long. but its had a 100 percent success rate so far when my friends show their stubborn parents, heck id say about half of the parents even decided to start taking protein not even kidding

    Originally Posted by MrCoggeshell View Post
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    Originally Posted by Canuck4 View Post
    Nice work OP. Tons of good info. I was just debating with a friend the other day about someone on a high protein diet getting a kidney stone. I said it wasn't related to diet, he disagrees. Some research I will have to keep for the future. Thanks.
    yeah its unlikely, every bber would have kidney stones then really lol. but thanks for readng!

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    Very informative and great post..
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    Would it be unsafe to take creatine at 14 (15 in 6 months)? Sorry if it's already been answered, didn't want to read through 82 pages.
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    Originally Posted by Luuuuucas View Post
    Would it be unsafe to take creatine at 14 (15 in 6 months)? Sorry if it's already been answered, didn't want to read through 82 pages.
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    Good Post OP , always heard about creatine loading but was too lazy to research it aha
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    has anyone else mixed their creatine with cottage cheese?
    or am i just extremely crazy.
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    Biological content are explained very well. I will keep this in mind while using supplements.
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    I'm still lost on 2 issues that seem to conflict with each other.

    1) Cycling creatine. Are you supposed to use it for a certain amount of time (3-4 months) and then get off of it for a month?
    Or do you just take it continuously like Whey?

    I've heard people advocate both methods and what's the real difference? Creatine seems very beneficial which makes me wonder why you'd ever want to get off of it.


    2) Is the loading phase really necessary?

    Like my previous question, I see people advocating loading and others saying it doesn't matter.

    Does the loading phase really make a difference? lol


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    whats creatine ?
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    In anybody's opinion, is it worth taking?
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    Talking Awesome!

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    This answers a whole lot of questions, thanks.
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    Good advice. Going to the local supplement store to my 200 servings worth, suprises it's so cheap.
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    Originally Posted by ThatOneLurker View Post
    I'm still lost on 2 issues that seem to conflict with each other.

    1) Cycling creatine. Are you supposed to use it for a certain amount of time (3-4 months) and then get off of it for a month?
    Or do you just take it continuously like Whey?

    I've heard people advocate both methods and what's the real difference? Creatine seems very beneficial which makes me wonder why you'd ever want to get off of it.


    2) Is the loading phase really necessary?

    Like my previous question, I see people advocating loading and others saying it doesn't matter.

    Does the loading phase really make a difference? lol


    Thanks guys.
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    Originally Posted by ThatOneLurker View Post
    1) Cycling creatine. Are you supposed to use it for a certain amount of time (3-4 months) and then get off of it for a month?
    Or do you just take it continuously like Whey?
    I am not aware of any evidence that you need to cycle creatine. However, many people do choose to cycle, and basically go "off" once or twice a year. If you do that, then you need to be "off" for a minimum of 4-6 weeks for your levels to return to baseline.

    Originally Posted by ThatOneLurker View Post
    I've heard people advocate both methods and what's the real difference? Creatine seems very beneficial which makes me wonder why you'd ever want to get off of it.
    Some people are worried that your body will stop producing creatine if you supplement too long. It is not real clear, so may people err on the side of caution and will cycle.

    Originally Posted by ThatOneLurker View Post
    2) Is the loading phase really necessary?
    no, not at all. Basically you can choose to load or not load. Either choice will result in reaching the saturation point. If you choose to load, you simply reach that saturation point faster. If you choose to not load, you will still reach the saturation point, it will just take longer. Some people want to see results faster, others want to save pennies and possible stomach discomfort and are fine with it taking a bit longer.
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    Ah, thank you a lot for clearing that up.

    If you don't load then how long does it take to hit that saturation point?
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    Originally Posted by thenewguy1996 View Post
    Can finally shut mup parents up on there protein and creatine rants...
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