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    Calling out MANU

    Ok so today is my refeed/carb up and I will be burning like 5000 calories if not more so I need to eat 5000 IF style. 12:00-8:00.

    Add to my list. Whole foods ideally. I don't wanna eat that thar processed foods as I feel better when I eat whole foods.


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    I dont think i understand the thread...you have been a member for 3 years, you have posted over 4500 times, you have 3427 in rep power, and you don't know how to construct a diet that consists of 5,000 calories?

    maybe i dont understand, so i will say

    STEAK

    actually, if its carb up...I say

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    Gonna try this. http://eatfeats.com/query.php?_table=contests&id=4179

    anybody have an estimate as too how many calories it would be. I say 3000 which still leaves me 2000 to spare. lol

    Record is 6 minutes. Hmm challenge accepted. lol
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    Manu eats processed food. You mad?
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    Arent refeeds suppose to be pretty low fat? I think Lyle suggests less than 50g.
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    Potatoes. With some more potatoes.

    Oats, cereal, and marshmallows.

    Fruit.
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    Originally Posted by Lvisaa2 View Post
    Potatoes. With some more potatoes.

    Oats, cereal, and marshmallows.

    Fruit.

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    You're gonna have some fun with 5 grand worth of cals

    If you are doing a classic reefed definitely wanna follow low fat as much as possible like spicyprice said. Just depends on how strict you are going to be about it. Increase CHO 50-100% and protein 1g per lb of BW.

    Oats, raisins, and honey, all in one big bowl. BAAAM! Easy 100g-200g CHO right there depending on size/amount you use.

    Bagels are excellent. Put some jam on it too.

    I like Lvisaa's suggestion for fruit. I eat a ton of fruit during the week but on the weekends like it smoothie style. Not sure where you live, but if you have a Jamba Juice by you, hit that place up if you like fruit smoothies. Power size, Orange Dream Machine - flavor is PURE SEX, and you'll get 200g CHO to boot with only 4-5g of fat.

    Cant go wrong with pancakes either! Pasta is great as well.

    Sushi is good. Again, if following a strict reefed then be weary of some of the fatty fish and some of the rolls (i.e. made from sauces, mayo, etc..).....sushi adds up quick.

    Ive been on Toaster Strudel rampage as of late...lol....know you don't want processed food though. Stuff is damn good and slam it with a large glass of milk. GAME OVER.

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    Originally Posted by PBateman2 View Post
    You're gonna have some fun with 5 grand worth of cals

    If you are doing a classic reefed definitely wanna follow low fat as much as possible like spicyprice said. Just depends on how strict you are going to be about it. Increase CHO 50-100% and protein 1g per lb of BW.

    Oats, raisins, and honey, all in one big bowl. BAAAM! Easy 100g-200g CHO right there depending on size/amount you use.

    Bagels are excellent. Put some jam on it too.

    I like Lvisaa's suggestion for fruit. I eat a ton of fruit during the week but on the weekends like it smoothie style. Not sure where you live, but if you have a Jamba Juice by you, hit that place up if you like fruit smoothies. Power size, Orange Dream Machine - flavor is PURE SEX, and you'll get 200g CHO to boot with only 4-5g of fat.

    Cant go wrong with pancakes either! Pasta is great as well.

    Sushi is good. Again, if following a strict reefed then be weary of some of the fatty fish and some of the rolls (i.e. made from sauces, mayo, etc..).....sushi adds up quick.

    Ive been on Toaster Strudel rampage as of late...lol....know you don't want processed food though. Stuff is damn good and slam it with a large glass of milk. GAME OVER.

    Hope this helps! Have a good one!

    I always do high fat refeeds because I do good on them.


    Since I am insulin insensitive is there any supplement that would benefit me. Alpha Lipoic Acid, Slin Sane etc.
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    Oats, raisins, and honey, all in one big bowl. BAAAM! Easy 100g-200g CHO right there depending on size/amount you use.
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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
    I always do high fat refeeds because I do good on them.


    Since I am insulin insensitive is there any supplement that would benefit me. Alpha Lipoic Acid, Slin Sane etc.
    High fat refeeds? Interesting.

    I don't know of any supplements that would help you with your insulin sensitivity. If there are any that claim to be beneficial in that regard, I would be highly skeptical.
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    High fat refeeds? Interesting.

    I don't know of any supplements that would help you with your insulin sensitivity. If there are any that claim to be beneficial in that regard, I would be highly skeptical.


    Yup Anobolic style refeed. Plus its not like I am gonna eat over maintainance. If I lay around for the rest of the day I would still burn 3k today. Who said your metabolism down regulates during a cut. lol Still gonna go hit my smolov session and Gonna go to a Billiard Trick Shot show tonight. Mike Massey is gonna be there and if you pay you can play him. Which I plan on doing and getting a video.
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    Yup Anobolic style refeed. Plus its not like I am gonna eat over maintainance. If I lay around for the rest of the day I would still burn 3k today. Who said your metabolism down regulates during a cut. lol Still gonna go hit my smolov session and Gonna go to a Billiard Trick Shot show tonight. Mike Massey is gonna be there and if you pay you can play him. Which I plan on doing and getting a video.
    Ahh I see. All good.

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    I always do high

    Since I am insulin insensitive is there any supplement that would benefit me. Alpha Lipoic Acid, Slin Sane etc.
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    Ahh I see. All good.

    Ive heard of Massey...good with those trick shots. GL!
    Yup. Gonna play 8 ball against him and you never know I might beat him.

    Ok went to the store.

    refeed thus far
    *Half a gallon of whole milk
    *Package of Rice Cakes
    *Pancakes
    *2 pints of dreyers ice cream. One Oreo and one Reeces
    *Package of Bagel Bites
    *2 eggs
    *??????

    Oh well so much for the whole foods. lol
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    Originally Posted by PBateman2 View Post
    I don't know of any supplements that would help you with your insulin sensitivity.
    Cr might. Cinnamon like someone already said is possibly also helpful.

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    Haven't looked too much into this, but at the very least it seems promising. And is an inexpensive and effortless/safe method. So might as-well give it a shot.
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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
    Yup. Gonna play 8 ball against him and you never know I might beat him.

    Ok went to the store.

    refeed thus far
    *Half a gallon of whole milk
    *Package of Rice Cakes
    *Pancakes
    *2 pints of dreyers ice cream. One Oreo and one Reeces
    *Package of Bagel Bites
    *2 eggs
    *??????

    Oh well so much for the whole foods. lol
    Hitting 4000 with that. Wish my stomach luck. lol
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    Originally Posted by ArchangelEST View Post
    Cr might. Cinnamon like someone already said is possibly also helpful.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18234131
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17296187
    http://ukpmc.ac.uk/articles/PMC29010...eFPenQxjdp.129


    Haven't looked too much into this, but at the very least it seems promising. And is an inexpensive and effortless/safe method. So might as-well give it a shot.
    Good stuff. Yeah I heard about cinnamon and possibly vanadium being helpful. A few others. Just not well versed in its potential efficacy.
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    It doesn't matter if you're insulin resistant or not, the refeed should be fairly low fat (even as Lyle says). If it's high fat then it defeats the purpose and it is, to my knowledge, not a refeed but a high calorie binge. Straight from Lyle's mouth (or fingers):

    I’d note in this regards that my own Ultimate Diet 2.0 actually takes advantage of this to get a short-term sidestep of the energy balance equation: for about 24 hours following the 4 hard days of dieting/glycogen depletion, even in the face of massive carbohydrate intake, the body preferentially stores the incoming carbs as glycogen while using fatty acids for fuel (part of why fat intake has to be kept low during the carb-load). Folks may be at literally double maintenance caloric intake and still be losing fat. Magic? No, just good science. Ok, maybe a little magic.
    So, if you're actually refeeding then high carb, fairly low fat and have a blast. Part of keto if you're insulin resistant is so that you only have to eat a lot of carbs once a week (or is it twice?), so it really makes no difference if you are or aren't for a refeed.
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    wait what. Is that right. I'm only 150 wtf. lol
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    Originally Posted by mannydawg View Post
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    wait what. Is that right. I'm only 150 wtf. lol
    What do you mean?
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    Originally Posted by ErickStevens View Post
    What do you mean?
    I was being sarcastic. I have never burned that much in so little time until recently when I changed my diet.
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    I was being sarcastic. I have never burned that much in so little time until recently when I changed my diet.
    What have you done today activity wise?
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    What have you done today activity wise?

    Smolov for squat and bench, and woke up at 5 and went for a 2 hour walk to clear my thoughts.
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