IIFYM = Bad advice to give people with slow metabolisms.

[danell21]

I know there is some conspiracy here about bodytypes.. such as labeling one a ectomorph but this is denying the fact that some individuals will be able to handle more calories, be leaner, and attain more muscle mass purely on genetics. These cases will allow IIFYM of course, without much consequence if any.

However telling a natural fatty to eat in that way is ridiculous, honestly i didnt put on much muscle, just fat when I did IFFYM. When i switched to eating more whole foods with the same amount of calories i put on 4lbs of muscle on some weeks. all my lifts increased dramitically and my physique drastically improved. IMO

IIFYM = bad for endomorphs

thoughts?

[SeriouslyBrah]

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can anyone translate for me?

[FunkymonkAW]

I know there is some conspiracy here about bodytypes.. such as labeling one a ectomorph but this is denying the fact that some individuals will be able to handle more calories, be leaner, and attain more muscle mass purely on genetics. These cases will allow IIFYM of course, without much consequence if any.

However telling a natural fatty to eat in that way is ridiculous, honestly i didnt put on much muscle, just fat when I did IFFYM. When i switched to eating more whole foods with the same amount of calories i put on 4lbs of muscle on some weeks. all my lifts increased dramitically and my physique drastically improved. IMO

IIFYM = bad for endomorphs

thoughts?

Are you aware that you were using IIFYM in both cases?

[eazzy]

there is no such things as ****totypes

also lol @ 4pound of muscle eating whole foods in a few weeks

[danell21]

Are you aware that you were using IIFYM in both cases?

BS, you know giving this advice will lead to, people hitting there daily fat and protein maybe at 2k of calories and they will eat 1k of ice cream and expect to gain muscle because this idea is spread like aids

how about you do iifym with 8 twinkies a day next time you bulk for a prolonged period of time? when you gain muscle doing this I will agree with this theory

[wdmvp]

The point of IIFYM is whether or not you can FIT SOMETHING INTO YOUR MACROS. You can eat anything you want, but you must get sufficient amounts of protein and fat in your diet (carbs are a nonessential macro and can vary from person to person). So for most people that means that their diet consists primarily of whole foods anyway. If you are lucky and your daily calorie allotment is high (3500+), you could probably enjoy 8 twinkies while still getting sufficient macros but that is more than likely not going to be the case.

P.S. I hate you.

[DarthInvadeHer]

Don't bother posting people, he's just a troll.

[PhiSig2298]

BS, you know giving this advice will lead to, people hitting there daily fat and protein maybe at 2k of calories and they will eat 1k of ice cream and expect to gain muscle because this idea is spread like aids

how about you do iifym with 8 twinkies a day next time you bulk for a prolonged period of time? when you gain muscle doing this I will agree with this theory

It's called moderation.. You're red for a reason

Don't bother posting people, he's just a troll.

This is the reason

[eazzy]

Don't bother posting people, he's just a troll.

this. dude is trolling 4 pound of muscle in a few weeks and talking about ectos.

[danell21]

Hey idiot the point of IIFYM is whether or not you can FIT SOMETHING INTO YOUR MACROS. You're probably one of the retards who thought you could eat anything you want and still make gains. You can eat anything you want, but you must get sufficient amounts of protein and fat in your diet (carbs are a nonessential macro and can vary from person to person). So for most people that means that their diet consists primarily of whole foods anyway. If you are lucky and your daily calorie allotment is high (3500+), you could probably enjoy 8 twinkies while still getting sufficient macros but that is more than likely not going to be the case.P.S. I hate you.

hey retard if it was that simple you wouldnt need extra calories, everyone would simply eat 90g of fat and 200g of protein a day and gain pure muscles. Why the fcuk do you think we need a calorie surplus to gain muscle? to build new muscle. Good luck doing that with twinkies.

try eating maintenance calories to hit all your macros and then eat the rest of your calories in twinkies

dumbass, i will laugh at your fatas s after you do this, but i bet your not confident enough in your ****ty iifym theory to even try right?

[Xfaxtor]

BS, you know giving this advice will lead to, people hitting there daily fat and protein maybe at 2k of calories and they will eat 1k of ice cream and expect to gain muscle because this idea is spread like aids

how about you do iifym with 8 twinkies a day next time you bulk for a prolonged period of time? when you gain muscle doing this I will agree with this theory

Ill try again. You know both scenarios was a case of IIFYM right?

[elementaltoad]

this. dude is trolling 4 pound of muscle in a few weeks and talking about ectos.

For cereal, 72lb later, I do believe I'll keep "doing it wrong"

[danell21]

Ill try again. You know both scenarios was a case of IIFYM right?

I repeat, your theory is inherently flawed

problem?

you mad?

denial of the truth?.. come back when you IIFYM 8 twinkies a day for a prolonged period of time and have favorable health and body composition.

[wdmvp]

hey retard if it was that simple you wouldnt need extra calories, everyone would simply eat 90g of fat and 200g of protein a day and gain pure muscles. Why the fcuk do you think we need a calorie surplus to gain muscle? to build new muscle. Good luck doing that with twinkies.

No, everyone wouldn't do that because everyone isn't the same exact height and weight, and everyone doesn't have the same workout routine and metabolic rate.

try eating maintenance calories to hit all your macros and then eat the rest of your calories in twinkies

Tons of people already do this.

dumbass, i will laugh at your fatas s after you do this, but i bet your not confident enough in your ****ty iifym theory to even try right?

I've been doing it, and I've lost over 50 lbs. You mad???????????

P.S. I hate you even more than I already did.

[ko300zx]

thoughts?

[danell21]

No, everyone wouldn't do that because everyone isn't the same exact height and weight, and everyone doesn't have the same workout routine and metabolic rate.

P.S. I hate you even more than I already did.

Your idiocy is unrivaled, please re-read my post several times so that hopefully your pea sized brain can reach the point at which it comprehends it correctly. Clearly you are confused about what I have posted.

[danell21]

[QUOTE=ko300zx;809474321]
this is what you look like if you do IFFYM

[wdmvp]

May God have mercy on your soul.

[Xfaxtor]

I repeat, your theory is inherently flawed

problem?

you mad?

denial of the truth?.. come back when you IIFYM 8 twinkies a day for a prolonged period of time and have favorable health and body composition.

What theory? What are you on about? Why must I eat 8 twinkies a day to be following IIFYM? Btw, I eat ice cream almost every day, do I look fat to you? My health markers are perfectly fine. But no, 8 twinkies a day would not fit my macros so no thanks

[wowbob396]

BS, you know giving this advice will lead to, people hitting there daily fat and protein maybe at 2k of calories and they will eat 1k of ice cream and expect to gain muscle because this idea is spread like aids

how about you do iifym with 8 twinkies a day next time you bulk for a prolonged period of time? when you gain muscle doing this I will agree with this theory

since when did IIFYM require you to eat 8 twinkies a day? Or any junk food for that matter? Lol strong comprehension of IIFYM.

[peanut-butter]

The intelligence is strong on this OP...

[Kirra]

I know there is some conspiracy here about bodytypes.. such as labeling one a ectomorph but this is denying the fact that some individuals will be able to handle more calories, be leaner, and attain more muscle mass purely on genetics. These cases will allow IIFYM of course, without much consequence if any.

However telling a natural fatty to eat in that way is ridiculous, honestly i didnt put on much muscle, just fat when I did IFFYM. When i switched to eating more whole foods with the same amount of calories i put on 4lbs of muscle on some weeks. all my lifts increased dramitically and my physique drastically improved. IMO

IIFYM = bad for idiots

thoughts?

Fixed it for you buddy.

[ErickStevens]

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You mad?

[Xfaxtor]

LoL cant believe I roasted in this doll bed. Ah well, too late now.


Oh and no saying it was aliens, but............ It was aliens

[WonderPug]

LoL cant believe I roasted in this doll bed. Ah well, too late now.

They got you. They got you good.

[Kirra]

Looks like OP got himself banned. Good night sweet prince.

[mattypoole]

I know there is some conspiracy here about bodytypes.. such as labeling one a ectomorph but this is denying the fact that some individuals will be able to handle more calories, be leaner, and attain more muscle mass purely on genetics. These cases will allow IIFYM of course, without much consequence if any.

However telling a natural fatty to eat in that way is ridiculous, honestly i didnt put on much muscle, just fat when I did IFFYM. When i switched to eating more whole foods with the same amount of calories i put on 4lbs of muscle on some weeks. all my lifts increased dramitically and my physique drastically improved. IMO

IIFYM = bad for endomorphs

thoughts?

You obviously don't understand the basics of macros.

A gram of protein, carbs, or fat is exactly that to your body, regardless if whether it comes from a maccas burger, a steak and veggies, or a meal replacement.

If you are getting a different body composition from what you are eating now than what you were eating before, (assuming calories stayed the sane) then clearly the macros aren't the same, period.

There's no point in flaming replies op just because they're not telling you what you want to hear (which is clearly contrary to some basic facts regarding nutrition).

[Kirra]

^^Wut! A guy in the red who doesn't type out retarded sht?? Reps for you sir.

[Prodigy94]

Hold up..hold up.. hold up.

I eat 2,000 calories in whole foods and then 1,000 or more calories in "junk foods"..

I've been cleanbulking and i'm not putting on fat.. very minimal if any.

What's wrong guise :/

[mattypoole]

^^Wut! A guy in the red who doesn't type out retarded sht?? Reps for you sir.

haha lol thank you kindly sir "

Got negged after negging a popular member, but generally try not to spout out crap or pretend to be an expert.

This board has been great dispelling a lot of myths regarding nutrient timing, "clean" macro-nutrients etc. Certainly simplifies nutrition for training (now that I'm not frantically trying to squeeze in a meal every 3 hours and thinking my muscles will catabolise because I didn't have a PW meal/protein shake!).

Looks like OP got himself banned. Good night sweet prince.

Thank goodness, he was carrying on like a complete gimp, and that's not even including the inferences he made in this thread..